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JustRalph
03-22-2010, 01:56 PM
In 2011 you will be taxed on the amount that your employer paid to cover you with Insurance.

Unless you are one of the groups (i.e. Unions) that were excluded.

So much for not raising taxes on those who make less than 250k a year.

Don't forget the 16,000 new IRS agents who will be hired to enforce the new taxes. Btw, they just bought them all new shotguns too............ :ThmbUp:

more info:

Short-Term Impact (2010-2013)

-- Changes in the tax treatment of Medicare retiree drug subsidies (RDS), which may impact companies' balance sheets in the calendar quarter in which the bill is signed into law by the President.

-- The Medicare Part D coverage gap (known as the doughnut hole) will be phased out by 2020, beginning in 2011 and with a $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries in 2010.

-- Adult children up to age 26 will be eligible for health care coverage under their parents' health care plans--if they are not eligible for other employer-provided health coverage--for plan years beginning six months or later after the enactment of the law.

-- Lifetime limits on health coverage and restrictive annual limits will be prohibited.

-- Insurance companies will be prohibited from turning away children under age 19 with preexisting health conditions.

-- Annual employee contributions to health care flexible spending accounts (FSAs) will be limited to $2,500 in 2013, indexed annually to general inflation.

-- A temporary federal reinsurance program for health benefits provided to pre-65 retirees will be available.

-- Single taxpayers with adjusted gross income (AGI) of $200,000 or more and joint filers with AGI of $250,000 or more will pay additional Medicare taxes.

-- Medicare Advantage payments will be restructured and reduced and include bonus payments for high quality ratings.

-- Additional fees and taxes will be assessed on health insurance companies, pharmaceutical and medical device manufacturers.

Long-term Impact (2014-Beyond)

-- States will set up health insurance exchanges for individuals and small employers to buy health care insurance.

-- Employers not offering health insurance coverage will be required to pay $2,000 per full-time employee for all full-time employees if at least one employee enrolls in a health plan through the health insurance exchange and receives a federal subsidy.

-- Employers offering "unaffordable" coverage will be assessed $3,000 for each full-time employee who enrolls in the exchange and receives a subsidy.

-- An excise tax will be imposed on high-cost health plans above a certain threshold, starting in 2018.

-- Annual benefit limits will generally be prohibited.

-- Waiting periods longer than 90 days for individuals to be eligible for coverage will be prohibited.

-- Insurance companies and employers will be prohibited from turning away individuals with preexisting health conditions.

boxcar
03-22-2010, 01:58 PM
In 2011 you will be taxed on the amount that your employer paid to cover you with Insurance.

Unless you are one of the groups (i.e. Unions) that were excluded.

So much for not raising taxes on those who make less than 250k a year.

Don't forget the 16,000 new IRS agents who will be hired to enforce the new taxes. Btw, they just bought them all new shotguns too............ :ThmbUp:


This entire health care reform" scam is all about collecting taxes --- lots and lots of taxes. These taxes will kill the "middle class", which is BO's game plan.

Boxcar

Tom
03-22-2010, 03:20 PM
And as a result of this, states will be raising taxes and cutting services.

Leonard
03-22-2010, 03:23 PM
This entire health care reform" scam is all about collecting taxes --- lots and lots of taxes. These taxes will kill the "middle class", which is BO's game plan.

Boxcar

Yup. The WSJ also lists a bunch of other increases in taxes and fees not included in Ralph's list.

BenDiesel26
03-22-2010, 03:31 PM
Yup. The WSJ also lists a bunch of other increases in taxes and fees not included in Ralph's list.

Don't forget about the socialization of the student loan industry. The government will now be the only provider of student loans with the exception of one small company in South Dakota. This from the "HEALTH REFORM" bill. Just another one of the gimmicks used to get an acceptable CBO score.

boxcar
03-22-2010, 03:39 PM
Don't forget about the socialization of the student loan industry. The government will now be the only provider of student loans with the exception of one small company in South Dakota. This from the "HEALTH REFORM" bill. Just another one of the gimmicks used to get an acceptable CBO score.

Yup and students, who will need loans, will be forced to participate in various Marxist-oriented community organizing activities -- but only those of course that have the official stamp of approval from the state.

Boxcar

ArlJim78
03-22-2010, 03:41 PM
Comrades please don't question the reason for all the new taxes and regulations.

Big Gov knows what is best, and will provde all that we require.

We should all give thanks for having such wise planners looking out for us.

46zilzal
03-22-2010, 03:43 PM
Yup and students, who will need loans, will be forced to participate in various Marxist-oriented community organizing activities -- but only those of course that have the official stamp of approval from the state.

Boxcar
There is zero evidence for that but what would you know never having actually been to a university of note.

Leonard
03-22-2010, 03:49 PM
Don't forget about the socialization of the student loan industry. The government will now be the only provider of student loans with the exception of one small company in South Dakota. This from the "HEALTH REFORM" bill. Just another one of the gimmicks used to get an acceptable CBO score.

Yeah, the provisions in the healthcare bill for the Fed to take over all student loans in the country is absolutely a healthcare necessity. Just like making sure the IRS is the agency responsible for overseeing healthcare compliance. I am glad the bill wasn't about money and power and was strictly concerned with healthcare.

Tom
03-22-2010, 03:59 PM
There is zero evidence for that but what would you know never having actually been to a university of note.

Already talked about by Obama.

boxcar
03-22-2010, 05:29 PM
There is zero evidence for that but what would you know never having actually been to a university of note.

Why would I have had to have attended one in order to make my statement in the first place!? Connect the dots for me, "Einstein".

Boxcar

cj's dad
03-22-2010, 07:37 PM
There is zero evidence for that but what would you know never havingactually been to a university of note.

And exactly how would you know that bit of info ?????

And BTW, using the word "actually" never improves or emphasizes any sentence ever constructed IMO.

Valuist
03-22-2010, 09:32 PM
The potential atomic bomb in the coal mine is the talk of the left wanting to take control of everyone's IRAs and 401(k)s. Supposedly they would take over all retirement accounts, then pay you an annuity (gee thanks....it is MY money) but the real goal is to not let you leave more than half to your heirs. That it would escheat to them. IF this were to happen, I really think you would see a Civil War.

Pell Mell
03-22-2010, 09:34 PM
It only cost 625,000 lives to get us to this glorious moment in the history of our country. :ThmbDown:

mostpost
03-27-2010, 01:14 PM
Don't forget about the socialization of the student loan industry. The government will now be the only provider of student loans with the exception of one small company in South Dakota. This from the "HEALTH REFORM" bill. Just another one of the gimmicks used to get an acceptable CBO score.
So many conservatives to correct, so little time. :lol:
From the New York Times:
Since the bank-based loan program began in 1965, commercial banks like Sallie Mae and Nelnet have received guaranteed federal subsidies to lend money to students, with the government assuming nearly all the risk. Democrats have long denounced the program, saying it fattened the bottom line for banks at the expense of students and taxpayers.
In other words, the government gave money to the banks to loan to students. Then the government either told the banks to keep the interest or that the government would pay a fee to the banks for administering the program or maybe both. The government also told the banks if a student defaulted on a loan they (the banks) would not be liable to repay the Federal government.
Sounds like a great plan. For the banks. The legislation just passed eliminates the middleman (Sorry! middleperson) Any bank is still free to provide a personal loan to a student.....like that's going to happen......they are just no longer part of the student loan program. They are no longer getting free profits with no risk.

BenDiesel26
03-27-2010, 04:17 PM
So many conservatives to correct, so little time. :lol:
From the New York Times:

In other words, the government gave money to the banks to loan to students. Then the government either told the banks to keep the interest or that the government would pay a fee to the banks for administering the program or maybe both. The government also told the banks if a student defaulted on a loan they (the banks) would not be liable to repay the Federal government.
Sounds like a great plan. For the banks. The legislation just passed eliminates the middleman (Sorry! middleperson) Any bank is still free to provide a personal loan to a student.....like that's going to happen......they are just no longer part of the student loan program. They are no longer getting free profits with no risk.

What the hell do student loans have to do with health care besides acting as a gimmick to obtain a lower CBO score on Obamacare? Answer. Absolutely nothing. Correct that.

mostpost
03-27-2010, 07:51 PM
What the hell do student loans have to do with health care besides acting as a gimmick to obtain a lower CBO score on Obamacare? Answer. Absolutely nothing. Correct that.
You'd have a better argument if this was the first time an unrelated matter had been tacked on to a piece of legislation. I doubt if we could count the times it has been done; just as many times by Republicans as by Democrats.
It would only be a gimmack if the purpose was solely to influence the CBO score and if student loan reform was not something that Democrats have been pushing for years. Correction accomplished. :lol:

BenDiesel26
03-27-2010, 10:10 PM
It would only be a gimmack if the purpose was solely to influence the CBO score

Oh, so it WAS a gimmick. Thanks for clearing that up mostpost. What are your thoughts on the $10 trillion in debt Obama has set forth for the country?

johnhannibalsmith
03-27-2010, 10:14 PM
...What are your thoughts on the $10 trillion in debt Obama has set forth for the country?

Come on, you already know it isn't his fault... :liar: