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Igeteven
02-27-2010, 12:22 PM
Does this man really know racing? Does he care about Owners, Trainers, and the Player?


After the interview on the radio, I say no, it goes to show you, how a man with no brains can control a race track and have the well fair of hundred of thousands of people in his hand.


This goes to show you, as well in Politics the rich control the masses. Here is a very rich man, how he did it, I don't know, however, some one made his money for him, I can't believe it for one second, he did it on his own.

This man has a ego as hard as stainless steel and he is no different then any other rich SOB who could care less about the people under him.


It's is shame that one man with no brains, can be in power and everyone.
around him, kiss his ass.

Sounds like Hitler, Stalin, our government, and any other politician around. Protecting their ass, and could care less about the sport it self.

jballscalls
02-27-2010, 12:34 PM
Does this man really know racing? Does he care about Owners, Trainers, and the Player?


After the interview on the radio, I say no, it goes to show you, how a man with no brains can control a race track and have the well fair of hundred of thousands of people in his hand.


This goes to show you, as well in Politics the rich control the masses. Here is a very rich man, how he did it, I don't know, however, some one made his money for him, I can't believe it for one second, he did it on his own.

This man has a ego as hard as stainless steel and he is no different then any other rich SOB who could care less about the people under him.


It's is shame that one man with no brains, can be in power and everyone.
around him, kiss his ass.

Sounds like Hitler, Stalin, our government, and any other politician around. Protecting their ass, and could care less about the sport it self.

always cracks me up when a guy anonymously comes on a fan board and rips a guy saying he has no brains and then immediately thinks welfare is not only two words, but is spelled well fair.

always find that ironic.

but to actually address your point, i'd love to hear audio of the interview. do you have a link so we can listen to the interview?? Even though I work for one of his tracks, i've never met him or even heard him speak for that matter, would be interested in hearing it.

Igeteven
02-27-2010, 12:36 PM
always cracks me up when a guy anonymously comes on a fan board and rips a guy saying he has no brains and then immediately thinks welfare is not only two words, but is spelled well fair.

always find that ironic.

but to actually address your point, i'd love to hear audio of the interview. do you have a link so we can listen to the interview?? Even though I work for one of his tracks, i've never met him or even heard him speak for that matter, would be interested in hearing it.


I really got a little emotional with the interview that set me off, sorry about the spelling


http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

jballscalls
02-27-2010, 12:59 PM
I really got a little emotional with the interview that set me off, sorry about the spelling


http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

i was just busting chops about the spelling, we all do it.

thanks for posting

Igeteven
02-27-2010, 01:11 PM
i was just busting chops about the spelling, we all do it.

thanks for posting


Listen to the interview, unreal

andymays
02-27-2010, 01:21 PM
One of the best parts was when Roger tried to get him to agree to low takeout. He couldn't even answer that. That tells me takeouts going up 5%! :ThmbDown:

Horseplayersbet.com
02-27-2010, 01:22 PM
I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.

andymays
02-27-2010, 01:23 PM
Santa Anita rained out today.


More bad Karma for Santa Anita and Stronach.

andymays
02-27-2010, 01:26 PM
I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.


I don't know how you can blame Stein. He tried asking him directly, indirectly, and even tried tricking him into giving an answer. What makes you think he would have gotten specific about anything else he was asked?

In my opinion Frank Stronach has lost him mind and the only thing keeping him afloat are his advisors and attorneys.

The archived show is up for anyone that want to lose faith that Horse Racing can ever get out of this mess.

http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

Horseplayersbet.com
02-27-2010, 01:29 PM
I don't know how you can blame Stein. He tried asking him directly, indirectly, and even tried tricking him into giving an answer. What makes you think he would have gotten specific about anything else he was asked?

In my opinion Frank Stronach has lost him mind and the only thing keeping him afloat are his advisors and attorneys.
He never asked what the main problem is and how it can be solved.
If Stein did a capable interview, he would have at least asked that question once or twice.
Not arguing that Stronach wouldn't have answered it, but the questions should have been asked.

andymays
02-27-2010, 01:31 PM
He never asked what the main problem is and how it can be solved.
If Stein did a capable interview, he would have at least asked that question once or twice.
Not arguing that Stronach wouldn't have answered it, but the questions should have been asked.


The guy wasn't going to answer any question with specifics. Not in a million years. He's nuts in my opinion.

DJofSD
02-27-2010, 02:27 PM
I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.
For the most part, I agree with the response.

First of all, Stein comes off as some one with a specific answer he wants to hear, but when the words are not spoken he presses the question over again and again. Try a couple of times then move on.

As to the skills of the interviewer, there was at least a half a dozen tid bits that Frank mentioned that Stein should have persued. It was obvious to me that Stronach has not finished his discussions with the people he wanted to talk to first. Being a business man and working in a highly contrained environment he was not going to make a comment that would have been counterproductive to any discussion he might yet to have.

On a postive note, it sounded like Stronach has not given up and if anything he has some ideas about turing the economic problems of the track and California racing around but would need to get parties to buy in on a radical change and way of doing business.

Why Stein kept on repeating the "you have an engineering degree" phase is beyond me.

ManeMediaMogul
02-27-2010, 03:34 PM
I have often compared Stronach and his empire to the Third Reich. (Even his silks have a similar air about them.) The guy is a megalomaniac, but after my most recent trip to Gulfstream Park, I have altered my opinion somewhat.

Since the mall opened up, Stronach's vision is more evident.

The casino is constantly filled, the racetrack has an upbeat feel and generates a level of excitement, even with the small crowd, because the grandstand is not cavernous. The mall offers a diversion if you want to pass a race or two and go for a walk. It offers several options if you want to stick around after the races for a cocktail and some music and/or dinner.

All in all it is very nice.

I have known Mr. Stronach since he purchased Santa Anita and have never been a fan but what he has done at Gulfstream is going to make me root a little harder for him instead of against him.

Igeteven
02-27-2010, 05:15 PM
I have often compared Stronach and his empire to the Third Reich. (Even his silks have a similar air about them.) The guy is a megalomaniac, but after my most recent trip to Gulfstream Park, I have altered my opinion somewhat.

Since the mall opened up, Stronach's vision is more evident.

The casino is constantly filled, the racetrack has an upbeat feel and generates a level of excitement, even with the small crowd, because the grandstand is not cavernous. The mall offers a diversion if you want to pass a race or two and go for a walk. It offers several options if you want to stick around after the races for a cocktail and some music and/or dinner.

All in all it is very nice.

I have known Mr. Stronach since he purchased Santa Anita and have never been a fan but what he has done at Gulfstream is going to make me root a little harder for him instead of against him.

This man only cares about his horsemen friends, no more, no less, he doesn't give a God Damn about the customer.

johnhannibalsmith
02-27-2010, 06:00 PM
This man only cares about his horsemen friends, no more, no less, he doesn't give a God Damn about the customer.

Let's poll some horsemen in Maryland.

bisket
02-27-2010, 06:01 PM
i'm just thankful he won't be control in md anymore

Igeteven
02-27-2010, 08:45 PM
i'm just thankful he won't be control in md anymore


Lucky

InsideThePylons-MW
02-27-2010, 10:47 PM
If we could somehow get a miracle situation and have racing form a 4-man dictatorship to rule with an iron-fist over racing in the U.S......I would choose Frank Stronach, Satish Sanan, Scott Daruty and Fred Pope to be the leaders.

jballscalls
02-27-2010, 11:17 PM
One of the best parts was when Roger tried to get him to agree to low takeout. He couldn't even answer that. That tells me takeouts going up 5%! :ThmbDown:

well the thread made it a whole six posts before Andy went off on a takeout tangent! that may be a record!!

:)

Igeteven
02-27-2010, 11:53 PM
If we could somehow get a miracle situation and have racing form a 4-man dictatorship to rule with an iron-fist over racing in the U.S......I would choose Frank Stronach, Satish Sanan, Scott Daruty and Fred Pope to be the leaders.



Then there would be a revolution in horse racing beyond imagination.

Stillriledup
02-27-2010, 11:55 PM
Frankie has brought us the Magna 5 and Frank's energy drink, he's done a great job in racing. Oh yeah, he dismantled Gulfstream and made it a REAL track, not that old gal that used to stand there! :lol:

Horseplayersbet.com
02-28-2010, 12:01 AM
If we could somehow get a miracle situation and have racing form a 4-man dictatorship to rule with an iron-fist over racing in the U.S......I would choose Frank Stronach, Satish Sanan, Scott Daruty and Fred Pope to be the leaders.
Handle would be 3 billion a year in no time.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Handle would be 3 billion a year in no time.

I still want to know how Lamboguy is going to get handles up, he says he's got a plan, but no one wants to listen for some reason.

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 12:24 AM
I still want to know how Lamboguy is going to get handles up, he says he's got a plan, but no one wants to listen for some reason.


He couldn't make a real decision if he had too, if you listen to the interview, it was for the track and his personal friends who are horsemen,


He is killing Santa Anita day by day with his power and his ego.

We are all seeing the beginning of the end of horse racing in S Cal as we all know it.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 12:27 AM
He couldn't make a real decision if he had too, if you listen to the interview, it was for the track and his personal friends who are horsemen,


He is killing Santa Anita day by day with his power and his ego.

We are all seeing the beginning of the end of horse racing in S Cal as we all know it.

lol

I meant OUR Lamboguy (there's a poster here called lamboguy who says he can makes handles go WAY up, he's got ideas)!

Maybe we ought to start calling Frankie, Lamboguy!

Indulto
02-28-2010, 01:24 AM
If we could somehow get a miracle situation and have racing form a 4-man dictatorship to rule with an iron-fist over racing in the U.S......I would choose Frank Stronach, Satish Sanan, Scott Daruty and Fred Pope to be the leaders.:lol: That's quite a line-up.

I don't think Pope represents the same threat level to horseplayers. Without any real power, he's probably no threat at all. I think he only scares you professional bettors. IMO many of his ideas would actually enhance racing for the entertainment bettor.

Substitute Couto as the last member of that quartet and they might deserve the title "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse." ;)

PaceAdvantage
02-28-2010, 03:07 AM
I have often compared Stronach and his empire to the Third Reich. (Even his silks have a similar air about them.)

WTF?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3422/3182399420_af497bb1e6.jpg

Indulto
02-28-2010, 04:02 AM
http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/lines-in-the-sand/comments/02282010-wonderland/
Wonderland
By Bill Christine February 28, 2010…That Santa Anita, after failed experiences with Cushion Track and Pro-Ride the last few years, would consider another experimental surface, at a great cost, is (a) surprising, (b) preposterous, and (c) unbelievable. But if what Stronach told Wilson was fantastic, that was only prelude for a bizarre half-hour interview on the Stein show.

Stein, who doesn't settle for vague answers, did everything but shake Stronach by his lapels in an attempt to get him to answer questions directly. …

… "Maybe you guys can tell me what happened. I'm going to spend the break picking myself up off the floor. Who do you think we should have on tomorrow? Should we have Frank back on?"

"Bettor Bob" laughed. "Not unless you can find new ways to ask the same questions," he said.

… About an hour after Stronach's appearance on the show, Santa Anita announced that it had lost another day of racing because its Pro-Ride track wouldn't drain properly following a steady rain. This was the track's 16th cancellation since 2007. The Sham Stakes, an important race for a few Kentucky Derby hopefuls, was rescheduled for March 6. … http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/55613/stronach-cal--horsemen-to-discuss-problems?source=rss (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/55613/stronach-cal--horsemen-to-discuss-problems?source=rss)
Stronach, Cal. Horsemen To Discuss Problems
By Tracy Gantz February 27, 2010… “The primary reason I wanted to come out was to interface with people—horse owners, trainers, government officials—to say that the business model of the present-day racing industry is outdated,” said Stronach. “It doesn’t work.

“I am out here to plead with the horse community. We’ve got to change things. I would do everything I can for racing to remain in California. I can’t do it alone. The horse community has to help.”

… “The basic thing that’s wrong is that it’s not free enterprise,” he said. “When the government tells you when you’re allowed to open up your store and what products to sell, then you’ve got a problem. Then they become an operator. We believe very strongly that as a business we should be allowed to open up our store when we think we’ll get the most customers.”

… “I fully understand that for the privilege (of running a racetrack) that they would expect you to run a certain amount of days,” Stronach said. “Free enterprise means the rules are the same for everybody. Free enterprise means that business can make a decision to cater to the customers.”

… “I will bring forward what I call a racing charter of rights,” he said. “I have experienced it myself. Sometimes my trainer couldn’t get stalls because I was a little outspoken. We do not want to hold a heavy stick over owners and trainers. I’m saying, ‘You the owners are our partners.’ In essence, I’m pleading with the horsemen, ‘Let us make the most money we can,’ always within a legal framework, of course. But the racing charter of rights would guarantee the owners half the profits.”

Stronach added that he wants to ensure that money is also spent on the backside, to help backstretch employees with such things as health care and housing.

The next step in Stronach’s plan is to talk with government officials.

“We must sit down, and we must bring about change,” he said. “Treat racing like a regular business. If you make money, we pay taxes like any other company. We are not asking for any money. We are just saying, ‘Take the chains off our hands.’ Let the better operators succeed.”

… “I think with a dirt track we could create a relative safe environment. But it’s an ongoing idea. Can you make it safer yet, safer for the horses and, number one, safer for the people—the jockeys and the exercise riders.

“The final analysis is, if we are able to arrive on a framework that is based on free enterprise, then I would be willing to invest again. I cannot put money in over and over and over again if I know the model doesn’t work. I want to make it clear—I’m not threatening. I’m pleading. I’m praying.” …It’s time to get serious about defining “horseplayers rights” and becoming partners in the racing community; not just customers.

Charlie D
02-28-2010, 04:39 AM
It’s time to get serious about defining “horseplayers rights” and becoming partners in the racing community; not just customers.




I don't think " addicts and idiots" (Mr Mullins) will get made partners in Franks or any other racing charter.



Don't see any racino owners, horsemen shouting lower Take Out now we got the slots money do you??

andymays
02-28-2010, 06:57 AM
I think he's gonna raise the takeout significantly. He didn't know what to say when Stein asked him about takeout. Not Good! :ThmbDown:

andymays
02-28-2010, 07:12 AM
By the way if anyone caught the interview from the start Stein talked about his son who won over 500k finishing second in a poker tournament. :ThmbUp:

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:19 AM
Here's what i got out of the interview.

1) Sounds like a know it all. Sounds like a guy who is too busy talking and not busy listening

2) Mentioned the word horsemen at least a dozen times, mentioned the bettors zero times. (or, maybe once, by mistake)

3) Sounds set in his ways.

4) I needed a shower after listening to him.

5) When interview was over, i looked in my driveway to see if there was a used car sitting there that i had just bought.

6) He talked AT Roger and not TO him.

7) He's 100% gung ho on installing another 'synthetic' surface that has been tried out in Austria.

8) I felt that the IQ of Roger's wall went up many points.

9) Frank answered his own questions while sidestepping Roger's.

10) Did i mention i needed a shower?

andymays
02-28-2010, 07:25 AM
Good One Stillriledup! :ThmbUp:

To tell you the truth I was glad I didn't have to handicap the entire Santa Anita Card (I only wasted an hour on it on Friday). After listening to that interview I could care less if they shut it down completely.

DJofSD
02-28-2010, 07:29 AM
Why don't they just replace the main track with grass then they'll have their European racing. I'd love to have nothing but turf races.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:32 AM
Good One Stillriledup! :ThmbUp:

To tell you the truth I was glad I didn't have to handicap the entire Santa Anita Card (I only wasted an hour on it on Friday). After listening to that interview I could care less if they shut it down completely.

I think if i heard him mention ONE MORE TIME about the 'horsemen and partnership' i was going to vomit.

What did we learn kiddies?

Absolutely nothing.

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 10:19 AM
Here's what i got out of the interview.

1) Sounds like a know it all. Sounds like a guy who is too busy talking and not busy listening

2) Mentioned the word horsemen at least a dozen times, mentioned the bettors zero times. (or, maybe once, by mistake)

3) Sounds set in his ways.

4) I needed a shower after listening to him.

5) When interview was over, i looked in my driveway to see if there was a used car sitting there that i had just bought.

6) He talked AT Roger and not TO him.

7) He's 100% gung ho on installing another 'synthetic' surface that has been tried out in Austria.

8) I felt that the IQ of Roger's wall went up many points.

9) Frank answered his own questions while sidestepping Roger's.

10) Did i mention i needed a shower?


Perfect, great post

andymays
02-28-2010, 10:55 AM
Stronach, Cal. Horsemen To Discuss Problems | BloodHorse.com

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/55613/stronach-cal--horsemen-to-discuss-problems

Excerpt:

Stronach declined to go into specifics before he had a chance to talk with horse racing groups. However, he mentioned dates, twilight racing, and which simulcast signals a track can bring in as areas to discuss.

“I fully understand that for the privilege (of running a racetrack) that they would expect you to run a certain amount of days,” Stronach said. “Free enterprise means the rules are the same for everybody. Free enterprise means that business can make a decision to cater to the customers.”
Secondly, and of equal importance to Stronach, is his proposal of a partnership among racetracks, owners, and trainers.

“I will bring forward what I call a racing charter of rights,” he said. “I have experienced it myself. Sometimes my trainer couldn’t get stalls because I was a little outspoken. We do not want to hold a heavy stick over owners and trainers. I’m saying, ‘You the owners are our partners.’ In essence, I’m pleading with the horsemen, ‘Let us make the most money we can,’ always within a legal framework, of course. But the racing charter of rights would guarantee the owners half the profits.”

Excerpt:


“I don’t want to be a Monday morning quarterback,” he said. “I never liked synthetic tracks. But most people are good people, and they all wanted to do the best to get the safest racing surface.

“I think with a dirt track we could create a relative safe environment. But it’s an ongoing idea. Can you make it safer yet, safer for the horses and, number one, safer for the people—the jockeys and the exercise riders.

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 10:57 AM
Good One Stillriledup! :ThmbUp:

To tell you the truth I was glad I didn't have to handicap the entire Santa Anita Card (I only wasted an hour on it on Friday). After listening to that interview I could care less if they shut it down completely.

Andy

If they don't go back to a natural dirt track, I know rwwupl and I are done with S Cal racing

andymays
02-28-2010, 11:00 AM
Andy

If they don't go back to a natural dirt track, I know rwwupl and I are done with S Cal racing


I don't blame you.

Stronach reminds me of a cross between Zsa Zsa Gabor and George Soros. :D

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 11:14 AM
I don't blame you.

Stronach reminds me of a cross between Zsa Zsa Gabor and George Soros. :D

Me, he reminds me of a man with a paper ass hole. :p

cj
02-28-2010, 11:38 AM
Karls Korner is not going to be happy about this thread.

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 11:40 AM
Karls Korner is not going to be happy about this thread.


Who is he??????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

andymays
02-28-2010, 11:40 AM
Who is he??????? :confused: :confused: :confused:


I'm not sure but maybe he's the President of the Frank Stronach fan club!

PaceAdvantage
02-28-2010, 12:12 PM
Ya'll realize you are talking about a man who has failed miserably in his grand racetrack ownership experiment...why are we expecting anything successful to come out of his mouth pertaining to racetrack management?

andymays
02-28-2010, 12:15 PM
Ya'll realize you are talking about a man who has failed miserably in his grand racetrack ownership experiment...why are we expecting anything successful to come out of his mouth pertaining to racetrack management?


I never felt too good about him but after the interview yesterday it's not debateable. The man is a wackadoo in my opinion. Please feel free to delete the name calling. I can't help it on this one. ;)

Fingal
02-28-2010, 12:45 PM
Here's what i got out of the interview.

1) Sounds like a know it all. Sounds like a guy who is too busy talking and not busy listening

2) Mentioned the word horsemen at least a dozen times, mentioned the bettors zero times. (or, maybe once, by mistake)

3) Sounds set in his ways.

4) I needed a shower after listening to him.

5) When interview was over, i looked in my driveway to see if there was a used car sitting there that i had just bought.

6) He talked AT Roger and not TO him.

7) He's 100% gung ho on installing another 'synthetic' surface that has been tried out in Austria.

8) I felt that the IQ of Roger's wall went up many points.

9) Frank answered his own questions while sidestepping Roger's.

10) Did i mention i needed a shower?

KLAA should charge Frank for the air time on Saturday, not Roger- It was Stronach's infomercial / rambling / agenda.

Frank, go away. You're good at breeding horses, it's what you do best. The definition of success is finding what you do best & then doing it over & over again, but at running racetracks your ego is too much.

appistappis
02-28-2010, 07:31 PM
if you need to know about the stronach family ego, check out his daughters political career.

proximity
02-28-2010, 07:34 PM
Why Stein kept on repeating the "you have an engineering degree" phase is beyond me.


mr stein could have asked what 2+2 was and stronach would have said "we have problems" and that he needs to sit down with the horsemen....... i think mr stein was amazed that someone gave this clown any kind of degree.

good job getting stronach off the air too with a very tactful "sorry we took up so much of your time." :D

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:41 PM
mr stein could have asked what 2+2 was and stronach would have said "we have problems" and that he needs to sit down with the horsemen....... i think mr stein was amazed that someone gave this clown any kind of degree.

good job getting stronach off the air too with a very tactful "sorry we took up so much of your time." :D

Totally agree. Stronach was in a mode where he didnt' even know Stein was on the air with him. It was as self indulgent an 'interview' as i've heard in quite a long time. When you hear this guy and his accent, he sounds like the Governator, another foreigner who ruined Cata-fornia.

Buckeye
02-28-2010, 07:45 PM
Actually, Stein should have asked him, what are the other problems? which Stronach repeatedly said were more important, but he never did. Stein thought he could get him to say no more poly if he asked it enough. I thought Larry King was a bad interviewer!

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 07:48 PM
Ya'll realize you are talking about a man who has failed miserably in his grand racetrack ownership experiment...why are we expecting anything successful to come out of his mouth pertaining to racetrack management?


You are so right,

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:52 PM
Actually, Stein should have asked him, what are the other problems? which Stronach repeatedly said were more important, but he never did. Stein thought he could get him to say no more poly if he asked it enough. I thought Larry King was a bad interviewer!

Stein was bad, he needs to improve.

I think Roger would have been a national hero if he hung up on Frank.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:54 PM
Actually, Stein should have asked him, what are the other problems? which Stronach repeatedly said were more important, but he never did. Stein thought he could get him to say no more poly if he asked it enough. I thought Larry King was a bad interviewer!

It didnt' matter what Stein asked him, he wasn't even listening to the questions.

Buckeye
02-28-2010, 07:54 PM
Ya'll realize you are talking about a man who has failed miserably in his grand racetrack ownership experiment...why are we expecting anything successful to come out of his mouth pertaining to racetrack management?

Well yeah, you're right PA, but at least let the man state his opinions. For a half hour Stein kept asking him the same question.

Buckeye
02-28-2010, 07:57 PM
It didnt' matter what Stein asked him, he wasn't even listening to the questions.

Ask the questions, not the only question he kept asking.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 07:57 PM
Well yeah, you're right PA, but at least let the man state his opinions. For a half hour Stein kept asking him the same question.

He kept asking the same question because Frank didnt answer it. When you are an interviewer, you have a reasonable expectation that your guest will answer your questions.

DJofSD
02-28-2010, 08:02 PM
One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Buckeye
02-28-2010, 08:05 PM
There is a point as a good interviewer that a non answer becomes just that. And then the the interview ended. So much for Stein saying you are a visionary. End of interview. Bad journalism.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 08:05 PM
One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Roger should have said "frank i need a yes or no answer to this question. if you don't answer it im going to terminate this interview as we have nothing more to talk about.

Roger, have some balls, i know you're reading this.

proximity
02-28-2010, 08:05 PM
I still want to know how Lamboguy is going to get handles up,

viagra, maybe?

perhaps roger stein could invite lamboguy on the show and "raise" the question then and there!!

as an owner, bettor, breeder, adw operator...... he seriously wood make a good guest for roger's show!!

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 08:18 PM
viagra, maybe?

perhaps roger stein could invite lamboguy on the show and "raise" the question then and there!!

as an owner, bettor, breeder, adw operator...... he seriously wood make a good guest for roger's show!!

Dear Wise Guy Rog,

There's a poster here named Lamboguy who has ideas on how to cure racings ills. We would love to know what he has to say, have him on your show in the near future.

Thanks.

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 08:25 PM
Dear Wise Guy Rog,

There's a poster here named Lamboguy who has ideas on how to cure racings ills. We would love to know what he has to say, have him on your show in the near future.

Thanks.


I don't know, we have problems, I have to talk to my friends to figure it out,

again, we have problems :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

proximity
02-28-2010, 08:29 PM
Roger should have said "frank i need a yes or no answer to this question.....

stein did try and trick frankie into going "rapid fire" answers at around the 25:30 point of the "interview"...... didn't work.

stein should have eased into the interview a bit more, possibly starting with some discussion of frank's energy drink.......

(in roger stein voice) "what people out there may not know about you frank is that you have an engineering background and you've used this background not only to warn us about the evils of synthetic race tracks, but to create an energy drink that can really help people......"

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 08:44 PM
stein did try and trick frankie into going "rapid fire" answers at around the 25:30 point of the "interview"...... didn't work.

stein should have eased into the interview a bit more, possibly starting with some discussion of frank's energy drink.......

(in roger stein voice) "what people out there may not know about you frank is that you have an engineering background and you've used this background not only to warn us about the evils of synthetic race tracks, but to create an energy drink that can really help people......"

The main reason Stein didn't cut into Frank S, was money, Santa Anita sponsors his show and he receives money from them.

He did the best he could under the circumstances without pissing him off and losing a sponsor.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 09:53 PM
The main reason Stein didn't cut into Frank S, was money, Santa Anita sponsors his show and he receives money from them.

He did the best he could under the circumstances without pissing him off and losing a sponsor.

So what you're saying is that Rog's 'opinion' is bought and paid for?

Igeteven
02-28-2010, 09:57 PM
So what you're saying is that Rog's 'opinion' is bought and paid for?

Oh yes, He gets a check from them for advertising on his show.

If he didn't get a check, he would have torn him a new ass hole on the air.

Stillriledup
02-28-2010, 10:10 PM
Oh yes, He gets a check from them for advertising on his show.

If he didn't get a check, he would have torn him a new ass hole on the air.

Interesting.

Charlie D
03-01-2010, 10:18 AM
Is Franks meeting with the horsemen to discuss the "problems" being recorded or put out live anywhere???


I'd like to tune in to this exciting event.

Igeteven
03-01-2010, 10:20 AM
Is Franks meeting with the horsemen to discuss the "problems" being recorded or put out live anywhere???


I'd like to tune in to this exciting event.


http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

Kimsus
03-01-2010, 10:25 AM
I just want to clear some errors by a few ill informed posters here that keep referring Stronach to the 'third reich".

1. Stronach is Austrian not German, last I knew Austria was occupied by the Nazi's in WW2.

2. Stronach has been a Canadian citzen for 25+ years now, infact his daughter was once a MP in the Canadian Federal Gov't.

Horseplayersbet.com
03-01-2010, 10:48 AM
I just want to clear some errors by a few ill informed posters here that keep referring Stronach to the 'third reich".

1. Stronach is Austrian not German, last I knew Austria was occupied by the Nazi's in WW2.

2. Stronach has been a Canadian citzen for 25+ years now, infact his daughter was once a MP in the Canadian Federal Gov't.
I think it is a silly comparison to insinuate that Stronach is a nazi in any way shape or form.
Arrogant, yes. Out of touch with the customer, absolutely. But nazi or fascist, no, that is just silly talk.

But since you are getting historical here, Hitler was born in Austria too. :)

I should add that Austria was not really occupied by the Nazis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss

Igeteven
03-01-2010, 10:52 AM
I think it is a silly comparison to insinuate that Stronach is a nazi in any way shape or form.
Arrogant, yes. Out of touch with the customer, absolutely. But nazi or fascist, no, that is just silly talk?

But since you are getting historical here, Hitler was born in Austria too. :)

Right on :) :) :)

Kimsus
03-01-2010, 11:52 AM
I think it is a silly comparison to insinuate that Stronach is a nazi in any way shape or form.
Arrogant, yes. Out of touch with the customer, absolutely. But nazi or fascist, no, that is just silly talk.

But since you are getting historical here, Hitler was born in Austria too. :)

I should add that Austria was not really occupied by the Nazis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss

We agree it is ridiculous to infer Stronach's name to the reich as per comment via poster...this is not only silly but unfair.

As for the occupation I suppose this is abit semantical, but as stated in your Wiki quote: With power quickly transferred over to Germany, Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. ;)

WinterTriangle
03-01-2010, 12:16 PM
7) He's 100% gung ho on installing another 'synthetic' surface that has been tried out in Austria.

What is the similarity of climate between Austria and CA?

How many racing days does the track in Austria get?

:lol:

I'm surprised nobody can at least find the "sick" humor in all this


As for the term "customer". I get treated badly by many corporations.....as many or even most in the US are quite dysfunctional. I just stop using them, unless it's a utility company and I have no choice. The point is that nobody *has* to play CA. God knows there are already more than enough tracks in the US and elsewhere?

Igeteven
03-01-2010, 01:11 PM
sick" humor

This man is on another planet, he has servants not advisers