Attack on IRS?

[Tom]

Breaking news - Austin, Texas, some nut set his house on fire and then flew his single engine plane into an office building downtown - where IRS offices were located. Story unfolding......

[JustRalph]

One down a million to go :lol: :lol:

[DJofSD]

I hope he never attended a tea party.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I hope he never attended a tea party.

No kidding...

His affiliations and the shortcomings of some regulatory agency will surely be the cause of this disaster and not the man's insanity.

[ArlJim78]

sure enough it looks like this guy left a manifesto (http://embeddedart.com/).

[boxcar]

I like that guy's Capitalism Creed. It beats to a pulp the Commie one, which libs love so much.

Boxcar

[sandpit]

Like his creed or not, this was a moronic and tragic way to make his point.

[DRIVEWAY]

I like that guy's Capitalism Creed. It beats to a pulp the Commie one, which libs love so much.

Boxcar

This guy was crazy!

[boxcar]

This guy was crazy!

Exactly! As crazy as both creeds are! But you don't even know why the Capitalism one is and probably won't admit to the nuttiness of the Commie one. Am I warm here? As lib, don't you subscribe to the Commie one? If so, then this guy was only half crazy, right? ;)

Boxcar

[lsbets]

I am sure he will be labeled as a right wing tea bagger and used to condemn the opposition to Obama. Remember, never let a crisis go to waste. But reading his page, its clear he wasn't right or left, he was just nuts.

[boxcar]

I am sure he will be labeled as a right wing tea bagger and used to condemn the opposition to Obama. Remember, never let a crisis go to waste. But reading his page, its clear he wasn't right or left, he was just nuts.

I disagree. There are hints in what he wrote on where this guy was coming from, politically. He has the earmarks of having been a disillusioned liberal.

But I do agree with you that the MM will try to paint this guy as having been a conservative.

Boxcar

[ArlJim78]

this guy sounds like one of these anti-capitalist liberals, who became upset with the service he was getting from government and who tried to get out of paying his taxes. so he writes a big long tale of woe pointing the finger at everyone else before his final act. what a coward.

[lamboguy]

i think this guy belongs in the "troubled trip" thread

[boxcar]

this guy sounds like one of these anti-capitalist liberals, who became upset with the service he was getting from government and who tried to get out of paying his taxes. so he writes a big long tale of woe pointing the finger at everyone else before his final act. what a coward.

BINGO! Go to the head of the class. I believe you've nailed it. But the MM will not portray him as such. Mark my words.

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

Sounds to me like some of the guys who attended John Birch Society meetings in the 60s. I used to go to them in my miss-spent college days for the free food. Everything was giant conspiracy against them personally by rich communists.

[chickenhead]

I think populist is probably the right description for his politics. He was a crazy populist.

[boxcar]

Sounds to me like some of the guys who attended John Birch Society meetings in the 60s. I used to go to them in my miss-spent college days for the free food. Everything was giant conspiracy against them personally by rich communists.

I'm not surprised you have reading comp problems, too. Conservatives don't rail against the Catholic Church, generally. Nor do Conservatives rail against Bush, generally. Nor do conservatives rail against capitalism, etc., etc.

This guy was nothing disillusioned liberal who felt hopeless, despite BO's promises to give Hope and he felt this way because that mighty fine promise of Change ain't happened either. There are lots of these types out there right now.

Furthermore, this guy's cowardice at the end fits perfectly with the cowardice that probably marks most liberals, since most libs are loathe to accept personal responsibility for their own lives. Instead, they perpetually look to the state to help them out because life just isn't fair. It's so unjust. It's so cruel. It's so hard. A coward's attitude.

Boxcar

[DRIVEWAY]

Exactly! As crazy as both creeds are! But you don't even know why the Capitalism one is and probably won't admit to the nuttiness of the Commie one. Am I warm here? As lib, don't you subscribe to the Commie one? If so, then this guy was only half crazy, right? ;)

Boxcar

The guy was crazy! Now you sound crazy. You're the one agreeing to part of what he said.

[Robert Goren]

-I'm not surprised you have reading comp problems, too. Conservatives don't rail against the Catholic Church, generally. Nor do Conservatives rail against Bush, generally. Nor do conservatives rail against capitalism, etc., etc.

This guy was nothing disillusioned liberal who felt hopeless, despite BO's promises to give Hope and he felt this way because that mighty fine promise of Change ain't happened either. There are lots of these types out there right now.

Furthermore, this guy's cowardice at the end fits perfectly with the cowardice that probably marks most liberals, since most libs are loathe to accept personal responsibility for their own lives. Instead, they perpetually look to the state to help them out because life just isn't fair. It's so unjust. It's so cruel. It's so hard. A coward's attitude.

BoxcarDo you know anything about the JBS? or just typing to see your own folly. Among many other thing the JBS hated the Catholic Church. It was along with about any other major group of the time was part of vast world wide conspiracy to keep them down. Whether or not the JBS was conservative or not is open to debate, but they called themselves that back then. I belonged at the time to Bill Buckley's group Young Americans for Freedom. We thought they were a joke.

[PaceAdvantage]

I can't wait for the crazy conspiracy theories which have members of the Democratic party or even Obama himself behind the events of today...you know...in order for them to discredit the Tea Party movement, etc. etc.

Obama's Reichstag and all that jazz...

Oh wait...silly me....only nutty left-wingers come up with that kind of kookiness, like the 9/11 truthers....:faint:

[ArlJim78]

I think populist is probably the right description for his politics. He was a crazy populist.
i think you hit the nail on the head. crazy populist sounds about the right fit.


anyone found out yet how this guy so down on his luck managed to own a small plane?

[Rookies]

But I do agree with you that the MM will try to paint this guy as having been a conservative.

And IF he was a Con loony who did exactly the same thing, would we be hearing the same sanctimonius cant from you ?

WHFO

Instead, you'd be chatting up his freedom loving capitalist virtues and independent thought, extolling his life as a clear free thinker who was merely trying to right a wrong against the evil corporate state.
wouldn'tcha ?

[bigmack]

Time Mag 'cutting to the chase' :lol:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/2_18_10_16_21_25.png

[Rookies]

From his site, apparently...

If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer... and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (Synergistech :: Section 1706 of the 1986 Tax Reform Act (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport)) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (Synergistech Communications :: This web page has moved or been upgraded (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml)).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

· "another person" is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.

· "taxpayer" is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.

· "individual", "employee", or "worker" is you.



Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a **** about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy **** up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.



Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010

[bigmack]

From his site, apparently...
What next, Kaczynski's manifesto?

Get that garbage out of here.

[Rookies]

Funny, I guess I missed whoever it was trying to score political points off this loon in Post 23, by publishing part of the text...

[bigmack]

Funny, I guess I missed whoever it was trying to score political points off this loon in Post 23, by publishing part of the text...
I agree. Time Mag is a rag.

[Robert Goren]

He was a software engineer. We all know that they are all crazy. ;) Sorry I just can't help myself sometimes.

[chickenhead]

I can't wait for the crazy conspiracy theories which have members of the Democratic party or even Obama himself behind the events of today...you know...in order for them to discredit the Tea Party movement, etc. etc.

Obama's Reichstag and all that jazz...

Oh wait...silly me....only nutty left-wingers come up with that kind of kookiness, like the 9/11 truthers....:faint:

You never saw the list of the 50 people that Bill Clinton had murdered? I admit it's child's play next to the numbers Bush put up, but still -- it deserves our respectful remembrance.

[JustRalph]

anyone found out yet how this guy so down on his luck managed to own a small plane?

Cherokee's aren't that expensive......... 25k for one with "high miles" depending on which engine and the year.........the really nice ones are only 60-70k

http://www.aso.com/listings/AircraftListings.aspx?mg_id=210&act_id=1

[sandpit]

Cherokee's aren't that expensive......... 25k for one with "high miles" depending on which engine and the year.........the really nice ones are only 60-70k

http://www.aso.com/listings/AircraftListings.aspx?mg_id=210&act_id=1

Plus he burned down a pretty damn nice house that he owned...

[Tom]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html#theLink

There is a link in the body of text.

[ElKabong]

I think I posted some months ago that people are desperate these days. Very desperate. I can see this happening more and more to be honest. The folks I know that have been out of work, have been unemployed for a year or longer. The raw desperation in their voices ring loud an clear.

The current administration is the only administration that has a chance to CHANGE anything. Not Bush. Not Clinton. 0bama.....And all we've seen is finger pointing and ****ups since day 1 with this assclown of a preznit.

Unemployment a problem for you? Our resolution to your unemployment problem is to push Porkulus down your throat. If you don't call your congressman today and tell him to vote with us, unemployment will rise over 8%. EIGHT PERCENT, you fool!!!! You can't let this happen.

Never mind Chris Dodd gave a wink and a nod to bonuses to execs at the corp's we gave this free money to....Dodds has to have a bonus himself too, dontcha know.

And Pelosi flies her family at the expense of you, the taxpayer. If you complain about this stuff, we'll call you a teabagger....

And on and on....I'll be shocked if we don't see more violent rages like this.

[boxcar]

But I do agree with you that the MM will try to paint this guy as having been a conservative.

And IF he was a Con loony who did exactly the same thing, would we be hearing the same sanctimonius cant from you ?

WHFO

Instead, you'd be chatting up his freedom loving capitalist virtues and independent thought, extolling his life as a clear free thinker who was merely trying to right a wrong against the evil corporate state.
wouldn'tcha ?

Yes, of course, we would -- but only in your own little alternate reality. The noise you'd hear to this effect would come from within...

Boxcar

[boxcar]

He was a software engineer. We all know that they are all crazy. ;) Sorry I just can't help myself sometimes.


Correction: Most of the time, that is. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[boxcar]

The guy was crazy! Now you sound crazy. You're the one agreeing to part of what he said.

Yeah, I can fully understand why he'd be disillusioned by the commie maxim. What about you, though? Are you in agreement with that nonsense: "From each according to his ability and to each according to his need"? Does this tickle your ears -- or even your fancy?

On the other hand, he was totally whacked out on the second part about capitalism. That kind of nonsense had to have had its origins in a twisted liberal mind -- that's how far afield it was from the perspective of logic.

Boxcar

[boxcar]

-Do you know anything about the JBS? or just typing to see your own folly. Among many other thing the JBS hated the Catholic Church. It was along with about any other major group of the time was part of vast world wide conspiracy to keep them down. Whether or not the JBS was conservative or not is open to debate, but they called themselves that back then. I belonged at the time to Bill Buckley's group Young Americans for Freedom. We thought they were a joke.

Well good, JBS. But no conservative I know hates the Catholic Church. The JBS was hardly a blip on anyone's radar screen -- certainly not mine. (See, I'm not a JBS dittohead. Aren't you proud of me?) :rolleyes:

Boxcar
P.S. I belong to no political group, but I do think you're a joke.

[Leonard]

What I find strange is that there was news breaking yesterday of 5 people arrested at Ft. Jackson, SC for attempting/plotting to poison the dining facility food supply late last year. All suspects were native Arab speakers.

Certainly, the crackpot flying his plane into a building is newsworthy but today there is practically no mention of another alleged terrorist plot.

One event involves a lone nutjob whereas the other involves yet another terrorist conspiracy.

[ArlJim78]

What I find strange is that there was news breaking yesterday of 5 people arrested at Ft. Jackson, SC for attempting/plotting to poison the dining facility food supply late last year. All suspects were native Arab speakers.

Certainly, the crackpot flying his plane into a building is newsworthy but today there is practically no mention of another alleged terrorist plot.

One event involves a lone nutjob whereas the other involves yet another terrorist conspiracy.
yes strange how that works. this incident at Ft Jackson happened in december and they've kept it bottled up airtight. this should be a giant story, especially in light of the Ft Hood massacre. Our military personnel are under assault, within our own borders and right underneath their noses. and the first thing the media says is "well could this be part of a wider conspiracy?". well duh.

[boxcar]

yes strange how that works. this incident at Ft Jackson happened in december and they've kept it bottled up airtight. this should be a giant story, especially in light of the Ft Hood massacre. Our military personnel are under assault, within our own borders and right underneath their noses. and the first thing the media says is "well could this be part of a wider conspiracy?". well duh.

Muslims get a huge pass from the MM. It's not simply not PC to pick on anyone who hails from the religion of peace. They'd prefer occupying their time by attempting to justify their pathetic existence focusing on a guy they can portray as a conservative tax protester.

Boxcar

[Tom]

What I find strange is that there was news breaking yesterday of 5 people arrested at Ft. Jackson, SC for attempting/plotting to poison the dining facility food supply late last year. All suspects were native Arab speakers.

Certainly, the crackpot flying his plane into a building is newsworthy but today there is practically no mention of another alleged terrorist plot.

One event involves a lone nutjob whereas the other involves yet another terrorist conspiracy.

The plane one had nice footage with flames and neat stuff.
The other was just boring facts and yo had to think about it.
Shut up and watch the pretty colors and the dancing flames! :rolleyes:
It gave all the news wanna-be's a chance to pretend to be Walter Cronkite for a few hours.

[toetoe]

I like that guy's Capitalism Creed.


I think you mean screed .... :confused:

[Leonard]

The plane one had nice footage with flames and neat stuff.
The other was just boring facts and yo had to think about it.
Shut up and watch the pretty colors and the dancing flames! :rolleyes:
It gave all the news wanna-be's a chance to pretend to be Walter Cronkite for a few hours.

Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the hardest to find. You found it! :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

I have a new game I play.
Try to find the biggest moron on the news.
Every time I tune in, I get a new winner!

It seems without exception, anything I have watched/listened too is the work of complete idiots. Fox included. Fair, yes, balanced, yes, intelligent.....:lol:

[boxcar]

I think you mean screed .... :confused:

No, his whole letter could be characterized as such, but I was referring to one specific portion of it wherein he rails against capitalism at the very end. A "creed" is usually defined as a very brief set of fundamental beliefs or a guiding principle.

Boxcar

[johnhannibalsmith]

I have a new game I play.
Try to find the biggest moron on the news.
Every time I tune in, I get a new winner!


I've got one repeat winner that can't be dethroned - she's the Ken Jennings of idiotic appearances on news broadcasts... the one, the only, the useless...

Gloria Allred!!!

Why couldn't this blithering windbag have hooked up with Nancy Pelosi two decades ago and become a pair of Stevie Ray Vaughan groupies that traveled with him anywhere. At least that helicopter incident wouldn't have been nearly as tragic.

[chrisl]

I am sure The big "O" will be stating, "see, look at the anger, that I inherited"

[bigmack]

This from ABC:

"Extremist groups are already aligning behind [Joe Stack], beginning to talk about him as a hero," said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center which studies American militia and hate groups. "The growth of those groups has been astounding."

According to an April 2009 report by the Department of Homeland Security, the current anti-government climate "parallels" what federal officials saw in the 1990s.

"Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propoganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning," the report said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/patriot-movement-calling-joe-stack-hero/story?id=9889443

Connect the dots. Guy is upset with IRS leads to rightwing extremists who are racists that are 'capitalizing' on the election of an AA Pres. :eek:

Say hello to the average Joe

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AY_4woR0GAY/RzOkx0umeGI/AAAAAAAAA98/R5LfSKDvdv0/s200/Deliverance.jpg

[toetoe]

Gloria Allred!!!

... that helicopter incident wouldn't have been nearly as tragic.


:lol: .



Say, isn't our King Asian (Indonesia --- or is that Oceania ?), Polynesian (Hawaii) and Anglo-American ?

[ArlJim78]

CAIR Files Copyright Infringement Suit Against Austin Suicide Pilot (http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/islamofascism/ed-psthumously/)

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has filed a posthumous lawsuit against Andrew Joseph Stack, the man who flew his plane into an Austin, Texas IRS building on Thursday. The copyright infringement suit maintains that Stack “knowingly utilized a copyright protected technique for his own personal gain.”

[boxcar]

CAIR Files Copyright Infringement Suit Against Austin Suicide Pilot (http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/islamofascism/ed-psthumously/)

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has filed a posthumous lawsuit against Andrew Joseph Stack, the man who flew his plane into an Austin, Texas IRS building on Thursday. The copyright infringement suit maintains that Stack “knowingly utilized a copyright protected technique for his own personal gain.”

Now the question becomes: When will the ACLU jump in an represent CAIR? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

CAIR Files Copyright Infringement Suit Against Austin Suicide Pilot (http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/islamofascism/ed-psthumously/)

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has filed a posthumous lawsuit against Andrew Joseph Stack, the man who flew his plane into an Austin, Texas IRS building on Thursday. The copyright infringement suit maintains that Stack “knowingly utilized a copyright protected technique for his own personal gain.”:lol: :lol: :lol:
As right wing humor goes this pretty funny.