W/P Let It Ride Plays

[melman]

Hope this will be interesting to follow along. Nothing new here just a "let it ride" on win and place bets for one tracks card for one day. Could start with any amount but to score will start with $6 win and $6 place on each selection. Will round off to make the scoring easy. Example say the first pick wins and the total return is $43.60. The next pick would get a bet of $20 & $20 place. Not $21 and $21. Make at least two picks on a card at any track. No limit on numbers of tracks in a day. Just no "carryover" from one track to another or from one day to another. I'll start with some for today at Freehold and The Meadows.

Freehold
R2 2 Sporty Callie
R4 6 Princess Julia
R10 3 Lizzie Mcardle

Meadows
R1 3 In The Proverbials
R5 1 Matt's Pick
R13 2 Anotherama A

The "gold mine" with this is of course to have all of your picks for the day/track to win. You can still do well however if one wins and one or more others finish second. If your last pick of the day wins or places you could avoid a "wipe-out" as all "let it ride" plays end with that race.

[melman]

Anyone is welcome to join in on this. See if people find it interesting. I see my Western Penna friend Ray has two picks for the card at Northfield tonight so that his play. :) Only requirement is at least two picks per card. I called this thread "Let it Ride" in honor of my all time favorite horse movie. Not realistic at all but a real fun movie. To any younger folks who have not seen it I'm sure they would enjoy, even if not a fan of racing.

[Ray2000]

melman, ...playing a parlay...:)

REPENT ! THE END IS NEAR!!


OK looks like fun, I'm in with Northfield ...I'll add these at Maywood.



Maywood 5 #1 Celebrity Best (off last week's claim)
Maywood 6 #4 Madey Mac (likes to win 13/45)
Maywood 7 #4 Bauer's Z Tam (see my Fri longshots)


Good Luck All

[melman]

Ray I'm really into the pic3/pic4 bet which really is a parlay. Just with the pic bets you get to "spread" with multiple picks in the grouping. A lady friend of mine who is a regular s-bred player and keeps extensive records has used the "let it ride" plays and shows a profit doing so. Note she does keep selected long shot plays out of the let it ride plays. Just bets them as "stand along" plays. So I hope the "end is NOT here" :lol: With this you do get to pick and chose your races and not a set group as in a pic3/4 play. Might be something for newer s-bred players to follow or have some fun with. Plus she has me convinced that I might even find it interesting. :D

[beaucap]

Ok WE need a little excitment in the harness world. Here goes and i still have time for Freehold.

3rd #1
4th #3
6th #6
7th #5
8th #2

Now Yonkers

3rd #4
6th #6
10th #3

Thats all folks.....Good Luck...and good racing.....
Thanks Mel this will keep my day exciting:jump:

[melman]

The Meadows for today is listed as "abandoned" what does that mean? maybe that Ray informed them he would not be making his big bets today? :) Have some for M1 and YR tonight but they may be a "snow job". Will wait and see.

beaucap--That's the spirit. :D I'll root for you except in race four. :)

[beaucap]

I'll root for you to place in the 4th.....:jump:

[LottaKash]

The Meadows for today is listed as "abandoned" what does that mean? maybe that Ray informed them he would not be making his big bets today? :) Have some for M1 and YR tonight but they may be a "snow job". Will wait and see.

beaucap--That's the spirit. :D I'll root for you except in race four. :)

Yep, many tracks have "abandoned-cancelled" their races....The Meadows is one of them, along with Beaulah, Charlestown, and Laurel....

SNOW is there and more coming tonite and tom'w...Later tonite at M1 & YR, as well...

best,

[melman]

LottaK----I wish they would use the term "cancelled" makes more sense. :) So far no a flake to be found in North Wales or at Freehold. Meadows area has snow already? I still think Ray called them and said he would not be making his usual big bets on there races. :D I'll be rooting for beaucap to get his three horse remaining plays home. And of course mine in race ten. :)

[LottaKash]

LottaK----I wish they would use the term "cancelled" makes more sense. :) So far no a flake to be found in North Wales or at Freehold. Meadows area has snow already? I still think Ray called them and said he would not be making his usual big bets on there races. :D I'll be rooting for beaucap to get his three horse remaining plays home. And of course mine in race ten. :)

Hey Mel, Youbet uses "cancelled".....RAy is probably working on the heartbreak & Plan-B...:jump:

best,

[melman]

Hey this "let it ride" play is OK. :) Today at Freehold.

Bet $12
Return $104
Plus $92

[Ray2000]

mel.... nice Call on Callie:ThmbUp:


The storm drove me to "go west young man..."

I like Maywood tonite

[DeanT]

Wow, nice work mel!

[melman]

Tks Dean and Ray, I was kinda shocked that Princess Julia who was 5-1 on the line goes off at 3/5. Was thinking along the lines of 2-1 5-2. At least she won. :D I see that M1 will race tonight so here goes.

R4 7 Daylon Beware
R7 10 All Or None *couple of SCR's in this race should make post easier.
R9 4 Sportsfancy

Maywood
R5 1 Celebrity Best
R8 3 Puddin Time
R11 1 Go Tuffy

[melman]

The two night tracks were loser at -24 and -10 new totals.

Bet $60 Return $118 Plus $58

For today at Meadowlands

R4 9 Escapalebeau
R6 8 Cruzin Foralivin N
R8 4 Village Jate N

[Ray2000]

Good Luck Mel

Here's my, "Let it Ride on :3: s"

If a Leg Fails...Start over with next :3:

Woodbine

R2 :3: Canaco Rozo-3/1
R7 :3: J M Terror-5/2
R8 :3: Celebrity Hercules-4/1
R9 :3: Imbadimnationwide-4/1

[melman]

No hook ups today for me at M1 -24

Four track totals now Bet $84 Return $118 Plus $30

Ray--Almost with your "3" play at WDB Tough beat to the 4/5 chalk
Your totals for 3 tracks are Bet $60 Return $42 -$18

I have two tracks lined up for tomorrow. :)

[melman]

Three tracks in play for today.

Monticello
R3 4 Luxury Cruise
R9 5 Julias Girl
R11 1 Spendthemoneyperri

Meadows
R5 2 Hannah's Sunset
R9 1 Ms Yankee Top
R11 1 Wags To Witches

Yonkers
R5 3 Angry Dwarf
R7 3 Armbro Cougar
R11 4 Kaydon Begone

[melman]

Hey Ray what's up with the meadows. I see they are listed as "abandoned" again today. I bet there slot machines are in operation. :)

I'll put in some Dover races.

R4 3 Never Going Away
R6 5 Ebony Chapel N
R13 9 Talbot Redneck

[Ray2000]

Mel
For once SW Pa got hit harder with snowfall than NW Pa...
You guys over near Philly must still be tunneling out and more on the way.....:eek:

My "let it ride" would be at Yonkers.

R6 Saratoga John 6/1
R8 First Landing 3/1 (3 in a row?)
R10 Cruzen Fora Bruzen 3/1 (safer than my longshot pick here #2 in thus type bet)


Good Luck

[melman]

Ray--Good "let it ride" night for you at Yonkers. If First Landing does a bit better a very good night.

Bet $12 Return $82 Plus $70

Totals Bet $72 Return $124 Plus $52

I went Plus 8 at MR and -24 at Yonkers

Totals Bet $132 Return $152 Plus $20

[andicap]

Melman,
How do your results compare with just putting a consistent WP bet on each selection without the wipeout factor? For the amount bet, just average what you've wagered across all of your races since you started this experiment on PA.

[Ray2000]

Mel,

Interesting Experiment, I like the "pick any race" factor and the place bet acting something like insurance, but andicap poses a good question. Maybe I'll start keep records. :)

[melman]

Andi--Since this went "on-line" 16 selections with 9 wins. If you bet all 16 wp at the 6 win 6 place level which I am using for this "let it ride" play your would have bet $192 return $77.70. As Ray mentioned having the place item helps like "insurance". For you to have a loser your horse must finish 3rd or worse. That helped Ray last night when he had two winners and one place on his three selections. The way the lady who does this explained it if your first couple lose you still would bet your last pick of the day/track. Thus if you had three picks on any one track your would stand to lose $36 using the $6wp starting figure. She keeps extensive records via her computer and does quite well with it. She has said to me that having the place part of this is key. She also on a separate basis bets selected longshots.
Note--Not all or for that matter most of my picks have been m/l fav's. Had some 8-1 and many 5-1 m/l horses. One at Freehold was 5-1 line and paid $3.20 :) One yesterday was 4-1 line and paid $4.60. Ya just never know for sure.

[melman]

Ray--Does not have to be three picks on a card. I have seen on her list anywhere from two picks per card to four. In the summer time with lots of tracks open there can be a LOT of action.

[Ray2000]

Mel

We're locking in our picks for this little paper experiment, which of course is not the case in real life where one can always defer to another race if the odds look crappy. Also if the 1st leg hits with a double digit price, I would pull the original bet and only parlay the profit. Makes you think you're playing with OPM even if that's not really the case. :)

[melman]

For today at Monticello.

R5 5 Christian Chapel N
R10 2 Jatestouchinheaven
R12 3 Hood River

***Andicap----If you still looking at harness somewhat that a look at the web site harnesscharts.com. A ton of information and all for free. Done by "Dboomster" of Harness Eye.

Note---I do not know or am I related to "Dboomster" of Harness Eye. :D The guy however is doing a flat out super job with his web site. Thank you sir.

[melman]

I hear ya Ray good points. However if you do "let it ride" you have to make that commitment. And for scoring purposes on this board it's a whole lot easier with "locked in" picks. ;) Plus this lady does have a very good record with "locked in" picks. Can't make anymore than one track (Monticello) for today because who knows what track will even race tonight or tomorrow. Is Meadows still "abandoned". :bang: Even Dover went down yesterday.

[Ray2000]

Yonkers "Let It Ride"
Race 4 #2 Meteor Man 5/1 ............1st time? with Jason
Race 10 #5 Fischers Majorrisk 8/1 ....Jason again (I'm key boxing here with 1,4)
Race 11 #4 See You Smile 4/1 .........Dube on Fav? (See You :) See me :))

Others

The Meadows looks like "A GO"

Meadows R9..........562 Trifecta and Exacta box...
Maybe O'Brien gets to the winner's circle today


Monticello R11......3 w/7,2 ...Mached Bills-8/1 ......Exacta keybox
By TMaster class has been racing against tougher in Canada
22 days off but dropped in Feb 2, booted out ineligible

Good Luck

[melman]

Ray---Nice hit at Meadows R9. Took an 0 fer at Monticello today. Looks like Yonkers is going to race.

R3 3 Lisle Reardon
R5 3 Seafoodpaysthebill
R9 2 Please Come Back

[Ray2000]

Let it Ride Results

Nice winnings for you mel
bet 6/6 collect $46.60

scratch leg 2

bet 23/23 collect $75.90


I was set for a good one but did not get to "SEE ME SMILE"
bet 6/6 collect $18

bet 9/9 collect $112

bet 55/55 collect zip


But in real life.. Terry came through for me at the Meadows
Win $12.20 Exacta $40.80 Trifecta $106.60:)

[ownasluck]

Pompano

Race 1 #2 Gem
Race 2 #3 Napolean DynaHorse

Dover Downs
Race 1 #1 Gurf
Race #2 #2 Arts Country
Race #5 #1 Uncle Bingo
Race 11 #3 Grin Big

[Ray2000]

2/10 snowday

Balmoral Let it Ride
Race 6 #2 It's Mary Time 7/2
Race 8 #5 Passion Starlet 4/1
Race 10 #2 Apache Jake 3/1 (and watch Widger on #1 Lotsa Diamonds beat me:))


Best of Luck ownasluck, here's a couple of my Pompano Picks


Pompano R7..........2 w/4,7 ...Cherrio-10/1
good effort, claimed 2/1/10, 64 yr old Tommy Sells drives (another friend from the old days)

Pompano R10.........2 w/3,9,6 ...Art Mania-10/1
In this field of 4k claimers Art Mania has actually bested the 9,4,3,6,and 7 in past races
Could really light up the board. Bet W/P/S Ex key

Good Luck Everyone

[melman]

Posting this from deep in my snow bunker. :) And it' still coming down.

8 track totals

Bet $180 Return $229 Plus $49

The downside of this "let it ride" play is what happened to Ray last night. Two winners then in the last race a loser.
The upside is I have made a lot of wagers with my highest win price being $11 and change yet am showing a solid profit on money wagered. I score a little different from what Ray did. I always use a multipier of 2. i.e. 6 win 8 win 10 win 12 win 14 win no mater the total. I just "round down" to the lowest "easy" number. I'll see if I can come up with some Balmoral for tonight. Tha's if the snow does not block my vision. :(

[Ray2000]

Results Let it Ride

Race 6 #2 It's Mary Time 7/2
bet 6/6 collect $11.40

Race 8 #5 Passion Starlet 4/1
bet 5/5 collect $26

Race 10 #2 Apache Jake 3/1 (and watch Widger on #1 Lotsa Diamonds beat me:))
bet 13/13 collect $15.60 ......beat by Widger just like I called it :D


W/P/S Ex at Pompano -$28

[melman]

Let It Ride for 2-11

M1
R6 8 Native Treasure
R10 2 Court Stenographer
R11 4 Daylon Beware

YR
R1 2 SS Derby Girl
R4 4 U Bettor Watch Out
R12 4 Witch Trails

[melman]

Yesterday a slight profit Bet $60 Return $70
10 Track totals Bet $240 Return $299 Plus $59

3 Tracks for 2-12

FHL
R3 5 No Jokin
R4 1 Wygant Rose
R8 2 Summer Hope

Mea
R1 3 In The Proverbials
R9 4 Irish Big Guy
R11 4 Gladiare Grande

M1
R2 6 Crewcut Hanover
R7 4 All Or None
R13 6 Escape Attack

[melman]

Slight profit again yesterday with three tracks. Bet $60 Return $66
13 Track Totals Bet $300 Return $365

Four Tracks for today 2-13

Freehold
R3 6 Grab The Fortune
R5 4 Redstone Ruckus
R7 1 Pacey Deucey

Dover
R7 2 Yankee Skyfire
R8 6 Scootin Delta
R12 3 Prince Of Badlands

M1
R4 7 All Hall
R5 5 Smellthecolornine
R11 4 Letters From Home

Yonkers
R1 2 Falcataz
R8 4 Andy Roo
R9 1 Psilvisheartbreaker

[Ray2000]

Here's a couple of "Let it Rides" for Yonkers (Hope Greg Grismore has a good night:))

R1 #1 J A's Outlaw 3/1 gg
R4 #1 New Release 6/1 sb
R5 #5 Florida Boy 8/1 pl

R11 #2 Tommy Tiger 5/1 gg
R12 #3 Lindy's Bandit 4/1 gg

Might be interesting to see if the R11,12 hits, how it compares to the Late Double

GL

[melman]

Hey Mr Ray---That is a NICE "Let it Ride" SCORE at Yonkers.

Bet $12 Return $314.50 Not to shabby

[Ray2000]

Thx Mel


I might have to move this method from paper to real money :D

I believe you're in the green so far with those 3 at the Hold.. GL

[melman]

Ray---It is something to consider. Easy to modify the play by just not betting if one of the "let it ride" legs is way to low in odds. Example was one of your at Yonkers last week. The last leg was 3/5. Since that was the last leg just take your winnings and go home. :) For me today at Freehold my last leg was a horse at 2/5 however since it was not the last race of the day I moved my last bet to Besmo who won and paid $6.20. Before I started this little workout had a few hits like the one you got tonight. Only thing I found important is to not carry over from one track to another or one day to another. Also to have no set rule on how many horses to include in the "let it ride". I'll end this little workout here but you may like to try it on paper or for real with small amounts. Nice ROI on the night at Yonkers Mr Ray. :)

[melman]

BTW Ray, how bout that Melvin's Dream over at M1? No wonder he is good has a great name. :lol: