I Need Love Advice

[letswastemoney]

Hello.

If you made plans with a girl to get a motel room for the night, and this girl is your girlfriend, but every time you make these plans she gives you this stipulation that you must leave the motel room at some bizarre time like 6:30 a.m., while she gets to stay in the room, what would you think? Strange? Should I suspect something bad? This has happened every time we've made plans to get together like this.

[chickenhead]

she's taking a poop?

[letswastemoney]

she's taking a poop?
No I mean she makes me leave the motel altogether. She wants me to leave early.

[newtothegame]

Hello.

If you made plans with a girl to get a motel room for the night, and this girl is your girlfriend, but every time you make these plans she gives you this stipulation that you must leave the motel room at some bizarre time like 6:30 a.m., while she gets to stay in the room, what would you think? Strange? Should I suspect something bad? This has happened every time we've made plans to get together like this.

Could be she is imagining what it will be like married when you are off to work every morning and she stays in bed????
Just a thought

[Greyfox]

Hello.

If you made plans with a girl to get a motel room for the night, and this girl is your girlfriend, but every time you make these plans she gives you this stipulation that you must leave the motel room at some bizarre time like 6:30 a.m., while she gets to stay in the room, what would you think? Strange? Should I suspect something bad? This has happened every time we've made plans to get together like this.

I'd think by 6:30 am, the Viagra wouldn't matter any more.

[chickenhead]

No I mean she makes me leave the motel altogether. She wants me to leave early.

she doesn't want you to see her without herself all done up?

[ArlJim78]

what reason does she give for asking you to leave at 6:30am?

[letswastemoney]

what reason does she give for asking you to leave at 6:30am?
Well it's a different reason every time...but this time she said something about the dentist.

Whoever said she doesn't want me to see her without being "all done up", that's plausible...maybe I could buy that

[NJ Stinks]

Could be she is imagining what it will be like married when you are off to work every morning and she stays in bed????
Just a thought

:lol: :lol:

[Steve 'StatMan']

Tricky issue about being together for the night in a motel room, unmarried. No, I won't throw a bible at you. But there is a wide range of feelings on the subject, and everyone has to decide where they draw the line for themselves or with each other. I'm not thinking someone else is going to come by the motel after you're gone. And some people do need their sleep or time alone. Not sure. Don't know how long or how well you know your girlfriend. I guess the key to success/happiness is for you two to both be truly comfortable. Whether that takes conditions, or true comfort would remove this particular condition, only you two would be able to determine.

[Greyfox]

I'd be hoping that my wife hadn't arrived home from her night shift job by 7:30 am.

[Greyfox]

I'd be hoping that my wife hadn't arrived home from her night shift job by 7:30 am.

What time does the milk man arrive at the motel???

[ArlJim78]

I'd be suspicious, it sounds odd.

If it happened to me I'd be tempted to conduct a stakeout after leaving.

[Greyfox]

Well it's a different reason every time...but this time she said something about the dentist.



The dentist. Oh my God. She's wondering if you had you wisdom teeth pulled.

[letswastemoney]

What time does the milk man arrive at the motel???Hmmm....I'm sure this is irrational jealousy, but the possibility another guy comes when I leave has crossed my mind....

[johnhannibalsmith]

Maybe she just doesn't like the thought of leaving a hotel room at morning hour with a man... fear of the perception... figures she can leave alone and not be viewed as a prostitute or whatever goes through the self-conscious minds of women.

[Steve 'StatMan']

Maybe she just doesn't like the thought of leaving a hotel room at morning hour with a man... fear of the perception... figures she can leave alone and not be viewed as a prostitute or whatever goes through the self-conscious minds of women.

Very good point. Don't know if the motel(s) you choose are in a town/area where you both live and would be recognized by people.

Who makes the reservations, pays for the room, and checks out? May play a role in your answer as well. Or not.

[Greyfox]

Hmmm....I'm sure this is irrational jealousy, but the possibility another guy comes when I leave has crossed my mind....

No. As an amateur psychologist this is a simple case of "hen pecking."
She's the hen. He's the rooster.
"Cocks are supposed to get up and crow in the morning."

[letswastemoney]

Very good point. Don't know if the motel(s) you choose are in a town/area where you both live and would be recognized by people.

Who makes the reservations, pays for the room, and checks out? May play a role in your answer as well. Or not.
She does. I pay for some, but I give the money to her and she sets up everything.

And since she kicks me out, she checks out.

[Greyfox]

The rooster should crow "Cock or two'll do."

[chickenhead]

their mystery is half of their attractiveness, sometimes its better not to know.

that said, I need a good reason to get me out the door at 6:30am, mystery or no, I'm too lazy for that kind of nonsense.

[Greyfox]

She does. I pay for some, but I give the money to her and she sets up everything.

And since she kicks me out, she checks out.

Sounds like you're really "hooked" on her.

[superfecta]

just a thought that she doesn't want to be seen with you?Sounds like something is up.Maybe there is another guy,and they get their jollies having fun after you leave,sound weird but some people like that sort of thing.I"d do the stakeout next time and see if she just wants some alone time.Could put your mind at ease.

[Greyfox]

just a thought that she doesn't want to be seen with you?Sounds like something is up..

Yes. Good hypothesis.
The actual occupiers of the room are out working during the night.
She's the maid.
The occupiers come home at 8 am.
She's doing her business by that time cleaning the room.
Au Inspector Clousseau where are you when we need you?

[Greyfox]

Off-the-wall thiought, but maybe she's getting a single room rate (that is, checking in as a party of one), and doesn't want the hotel to know that someone is sharing the room with her (as might happen if you both left or checked out at the same time).

Too commonsensical, as ever Overlay.

[Overlay]

Too commonsensical, as ever Overlay.

I deleted my suggestion after you responded to it because, if what I said was the case, why would she come up with a different excuse each time about why he had to leave before her? Why wouldn't she just tell him that it was to save on the room?

[bigmack]

Silly thread but if she's on the thick side, she's eating your vittles.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1_19_10_21_32_54.png

[Greyfox]

I deleted my suggestion after you responded to it because, if what I said was the case, why would she come up with a different excuse each time about why he had to leave before her? Why wouldn't she just tell him that it was to save on the room?
Overlay,

1. You shouldn't have deleted your suggestion. I posted it above.
2. You're a cryptologist- psst...do you really believe this scenario without smiling..
3. I'm still struggling with being "drove mad" from the cruciverablist thread and you know what I mean.

[Greyfox]

Silly thread but if she's on the thick side, she's eating your vittles.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1_19_10_21_32_54.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[PaceAdvantage]

Silly thread but if she's on the thick side, she's eating your vittles.Silly, yes. But it's in off topic and it's not about politics, so it's actually refreshing.

Plus, chickenhead's "poop" theory had me laughing for real! :lol:

[Overlay]

She does. I pay for some, but I give the money to her and she sets up everything.

And since she kicks me out, she checks out.

Along the lines of my earlier post about the room rate (but somewhat more devious), maybe she's overcharging you for your portion of the room rate (whatever it is), and she doesn't want you to know how much she's really paying for the room (as might happen if you checked out together).

[bigmack]

Silly, yes. But it's in off topic and it's not about politics, so it's actually refreshing.
Plus, chickenhead's "poop" theory had me laughing for real! :lol:
Granted on both accounts. It ain't somethin' you see everyday.

I also snickered @ Chicky's poop reference but then it triggered a dreadful night I had with a woman I refer to as "Tugboat Annie" and laughter came to tears. :cool:

I feebly tried to trump 'the poop ref' by misspelling breakfast in a cheap motel sign. No dice.

It's all meaningless, frivolous banter.

Now, on to politics. :D

[letswastemoney]

Along the lines of my earlier post about the room rate (but somewhat more devious), maybe she's overcharging you for your portion of the room rate (whatever it is), and she doesn't want you to know how much she's really paying for the room (as might happen if you checked out together).
That also sounds like a good theory...hmmm....well I guess there is no real way for me to know unless I somehow stakeout the place or call the motel afterwards to see how much the room costs. I probably should do one of those things.

[HUSKER55]

How about something simple. Maybe she just wants some alone time, soak in the tub while reading a book and listening to the radio. If it bothers you that much just ask her. How much trouble can that cause?

[LottaKash]

Probable-Cause for me, I'd be suspicious........:eek:

best,

[sandpit]

Hello.

If you made plans with a girl to get a motel room for the night, and this girl is your girlfriend, but every time you make these plans she gives you this stipulation that you must leave the motel room at some bizarre time like 6:30 a.m., while she gets to stay in the room, what would you think? Strange? Should I suspect something bad? This has happened every time we've made plans to get together like this.

Does she ever do this type of thing when you get together in other locations?

Btw, who the hell goes to the dentist at 6:30 am?

Love the vittles post :lol: :lol: :lol: .

[Black Ruby]

Leave your cellphone or another article in the room, go back around 7:30 or 8 to retrieve it.

[airford1]

Dont be so stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Who boning who??????????

Stop calling this person your girl friend and and make sure you use a rubber, Fool.
P.S. What's love got to with it!

[Grits]

You say, "she sets everything up". And sometimes, you give her money? Change that right away and if she doesn't like it, stop seeing her. And find someone else because:

(a) She's a controller, and obviously, she lacks care for you. If she kicks you to the curb, now, at 6:30 in the morning, your life with her will be more of the same. But worse, as time passes. She gives the orders, and you comply. A hell for any gentleman.

(b) Why does she have to "check out" in the a.m.? Hotels require credit cards (or in her case) maybe she pays cash? If she's "setting things up" a card has held the room. Either way, these transactions occur upon check in. There's no reason for her to be at a front desk in the a.m. The key can be left in the room. So, this isn't the reason.

(c) Do you really need someone lying to you? Who needs that? Is your girlfriend possibly married? If you have to ask yourself if this practice is "strange" or if "something is bad," your gut is telling you that it IS . . . . . so, drop her. Stop wasting your time, there are a gazillion more women.

By most men's standards that I've ever known this is a "pop" not a girlfriend.

Good luck.

(These comments, from a female.)

[illinoisbred]

Why are you going to a motel? Can't she come to your place or you go to hers? Are you or her very young and still living with parents? A couple years ago,I dated a woman and I had suspicions.I'd make the arrangements for what time I'd pick her up and where we'd go. Like clockwork, she'd call back and change the pick-up to a "I'll meet ya there". Big surprise-she was married!

[eastie]

all chicks have quirks, they're different in all of them. Get an apartment and you won't have to worry about this quirk.
iF YOU WERE SMART...you'd bang her hard at around 6 and be glad that you're out of there at 6:30. Men go through much worse to get laid than leaving the hotel at 6:30 a.m.

[ArlJim78]

Leave your cellphone or another article in the room, go back around 7:30 or 8 to retrieve it.
Yeah, he could pull a Costanza. Leave a locked suitcase in the room containing a running tape recorder. then come back an hour or so later to pick up the forgotten case.

[Pell Mell]

Quit looking a gift horse in the mouth! Wise up and take what's offered with no strings attached. Or are you in love? ;)

[miesque]

I have absolutely no clue but its actually not that surprising, I have heard weirder preferences/requests. Maybe she just wants some space and quiet time by herself in the morning (I group the poop and makeup comments in this category).

In any event, this thread reminds me of a favorite saying of mine which some people hate, but I really think is true:

All women are high maintenance and all women are crazy, its just a question of what type and how much.

[Greyfox]

Breaking up won't hurt her. She's not a "mourning person." (or was that morning).

[Turfway Ed]

Could it maybe be all about the dentist? That is, could he be just making a simple "house" call to do some drilling or to fill an aching cavity? Like most of you, I'm just guessing.

[Dave Schwartz]

Boy, this is a tough one. Could I ask for a little more information?

1. Do you live in a big city or a small town?

2. How often do you go to a motel with her? (Twice a week or twice a month?)

3. Do you do "public" things together before the motel?



Dave

[letswastemoney]

Why are you going to a motel? Can't she come to your place or you go to hers? Are you or her very young and still living with parents? A couple years ago,I dated a woman and I had suspicions.I'd make the arrangements for what time I'd pick her up and where we'd go. Like clockwork, she'd call back and change the pick-up to a "I'll meet ya there". Big surprise-she was married!
Although we are both adults...I have a roommate, and she lives with her parent at the moment....

[illinoisbred]

Then I'd say its probably nothing more then a privacy/bathroom/toilet issue.

[letswastemoney]

Boy, this is a tough one. Could I ask for a little more information?

1. Do you live in a big city or a small town?

2. How often do you go to a motel with her? (Twice a week or twice a month?)

3. Do you do "public" things together before the motel?



Dave
-We don't live in big cities, but for this motel visit it will be in a big city

-It actually used to happen closer to twice a month, but I complained so much about being kicked out early and how bizarre the whole thing felt that it set off lots of other arguments and things became bad between us. But now they are better....and so...we're trying again

-We do go out in public, although I've never met her friends...even though it's been more than a few months...but we do go out to movies and dinner sometimes. People have told me it's odd she makes me pay always, but yeah...sometimes we go out....if there's money in my wallet lol...

[BlueShoe]

Shes married and her husband works nights, so she has to be there when he arrives home. Or some variation of the same. If this is a serious thread and not a gag, as I suspect, then a little sleuthing should clear this up. Others have made some good suggestions. If all else fails, then either flat refuse to leave and stay there until she departs, or just insist on an explanation for her unusual conduct.

[Grits]

All women are high maintenance and all women are crazy, its just a question of what type and how much.

C'mon now Miesque--sharpen up. You got us backwards.:lol:

High maintenance = how much

Crazy = what type

If one's been thrashing about all night, choosing a hotel room for greater kicks, instead of the overcrowding of one's home or apartment, there's no limit on entertainment. Lust and love (second term used loosely here) being what they are--could include showers, jacuzzis, role playing, bondage, lying back enjoying champagne and bon bons, feeding one another grapes, etc, etc and on and on.

At what point might one become less concerned about her lipstick and eye shadow?:lol:

Still, LWM, she wouldn't be sending me out the door at HER demand. That would end. And not being introduced to her friends? That would end, too. That one being sorta like--

"honey, if I ain't fine enough for your friends, then I, probably, ain't fine enough for you. And that's your loss so find someone else to put up with your orders. And be your boy toy."

(Lord, I can't believe I just used that term!):lol:

What a funny, funny bunch of answers for a gentleman who finds himself in a serious dilemma.:lol:

Oh, to be 30 again.:lol:

[DJofSD]

Hello.

If you made plans with a girl to get a motel room for the night, and this girl is your girlfriend, but every time you make these plans she gives you this stipulation that you must leave the motel room at some bizarre time like 6:30 a.m., while she gets to stay in the room, what would you think? Strange? Should I suspect something bad? This has happened every time we've made plans to get together like this.
She's hiding something. At this point your gut is telling you something is wrong.

Hire a PI and have them monitor the situation the next time. Have her followed then you'll know what happens after you leave, where she goes and who she sees.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss but in this case it could be dangerous.

[ArlJim78]

You have to be impressed with the plethora of free flowing advice that can be found in the PA off-topic on a subject such as this.

[Greyfox]

"I drive my daughter to classes every weekday at 6:35 a.m.
But every two weeks or so I have to pick her up at a bus stop near a motel.
She says that she works as a part time maid there.
Does anyone find that strange?"

[HUSKER55]

DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LUST AND LOVE?





15 MINUTES

:D

[illinoisbred]

Here's what you should do for your next rendezvous-tell your roommate to take a hike for the night,plan and prepare an exquiste evening-good dinner,beverages,videos,etc.,romance her enough to encourage her to stay the night and see what happens in the morning. She can't ask you to leave your place.

[Greyfox]

Here's what you should do for your next rendezvous-tell your roommate to take a hike for the night,

If the roommate isn't his wife, that works. :ThmbUp:

[Dave Schwartz]

I should have asked what time your dates start but the timing makes me think that she isn't married. She spends too much time away from home. The exception would be if she's married to an airline pilot or fireman.

So, if she isn't married, then the issue is she doesn't want to be seen coming out of a motel with you in the morning. Why is that? Is it because of you? Probably not. It is probably because of her.

She might have a boyfriend, but they live separately.

We could speculate until the cows come home. I think there is another point to be made.

As Grits and DJ alluded to, there may be something dishonest going on, but it really doesn't matter.

You have a relationship here that is not serving your needs. Okay some of your needs are being met ;) but not all.

IMHO, you owe it to yourself to ask her why this is the way it is. She may not be willing to discuss it, in which case, you must decide if the relationship should continue as it is.

If she is not willing to discuss this and make changes to your satisfaction, I think it is safe to say she is not one you will build a serious relationship with.


Dave

[DJofSD]

Dave, that's a good Dr. Laura response (I mean that as a complement).

[Tom]

Maybe she's a vampire!

[miesque]

Maybe she's a vampire!

:lol:

[BlueShoe]

I should have asked what time your dates start but the timing makes me think that she isn't married. She spends too much time away from home. The exception would be if she's married to an airline pilot or fireman.
Or a horseplayer or casino gambler that often makes overnight trips to racetracks and casinos far from home.

[Greyfox]

Dave, that's a good Dr. Laura response (I mean that as a complement).

The girlfriend is a huge fan of Dr. Laura's.
She's saying loud and clear:


"Look it's 6:30 a.m., now go take on the day."

[DJofSD]

The girlfriend is a huge fan of Dr. Laura's.
She's saying loud and clear:


"Look it's 6:30 a.m., now go take on the day."
:lol:

[bob77713]

She does. I pay for some, but I give the money to her and she sets up everything.

And since she kicks me out, she checks out.

So, she has the room already setup. You give her money. Then after sex she kicks you out.

Isn't that what a Hooker does?

[Show Me the Wire]

So, she has the room already setup. You give her money. Then after sex she kicks you out.

Isn't that what a Hooker does?

You left yourself wide open, with the above. However, you probably gave the most insightful answer.

[Cardus]

C'mon now, 'fess up:

How many times have you posted something like this on the internet?

[Greyfox]

Okay you've told us that you need "love advice." Sure all of us need that from time to time.
First of all you have to make sure that you're not stuck in a rut.
Do something different, something exciting, some new place.
Get out of the motels you've been going to and try something exotic.
For instance, here are two that might excite her:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3264678391_d5ed660fde_o.jpg.

Or this one sometimes has a sharp impact....

http://www.interestingideas.com/roadside/names/BatesMotel72.jpg.

[Tom]

Hey Fox.....you hit the lottery?
You're on a roll here! :lol:

[sandpit]

I know it's early, but I nominate this discussion for "thread of the year".

Many years ago, I was dating this woman who worked at a very nice restaurant. We had plans to get together after she got off work one night, but she called me and said she was tired and didn't want to go out. I was pretty suspicious because of her tone, so after checking her empty apartment (where I often spent the night), I went out to some of our usual haunts, but she was nowhere to be seen. I ended up partying the night away with some buddies, then swung by her place VERY early the next morning. I let myself in, and there were about 20 people passed out all over the damn place. The look on her face was priceless when she saw me, kicking empty bottles, cups, bongs and people out of the way so I could tell her sayonara.

[Greyfox]

The look on her face was priceless when she saw me, kicking empty bottles, cups, bongs and people out of the way so I could tell her sayonara.

I'll bet the look on your face was priceless too when you saw the full house.:lol:

[sandpit]

I'll bet the look on your face was priceless too when you saw the full house.:lol:

You're probably right, but by the time I got to her bedroom it had quickly changed from whatever it was to a focused anger...I hope some of her fellow partiers had a rude awakening when I slammed the door on the way out; I know the ones I stepped on sure did. We were splitsville just a couple days after that.

[Steve 'StatMan']

Or this one sometimes has a sharp impact....

http://www.interestingideas.com/roadside/names/BatesMotel72.jpg.

I've driven past this hotel a few times on Rand Road, going between Arlington Heights and Mount Prospect. Never a need to stay there, but always a chuckle seeing the sign.

[BlueShoe]

I know it's early, but I nominate this discussion for "thread of the year".
Hey, perhaps we should have a separate forum devoted to advice to the lovelorn. We could call it "Straight from the horses mouth" or some similar catchy sounding name. Who needs Dr. Laura, Dr. Phil, or Dear Abby when they have us, the wise sages of Paceadvantage, to dispense counsel.

[superfecta]

-We don't live in big cities, but for this motel visit it will be in a big city

-It actually used to happen closer to twice a month, but I complained so much about being kicked out early and how bizarre the whole thing felt that it set off lots of other arguments and things became bad between us. But now they are better....and so...we're trying again

-We do go out in public, although I've never met her friends...even though it's been more than a few months...but we do go out to movies and dinner sometimes. People have told me it's odd she makes me pay always, but yeah...sometimes we go out....if there's money in my wallet lol...

Never met her friends and you spend all the money means your a sugarfriend with benefits.It may feel like love to you but its not.the capper would be your freinds asking why you put up with her,they see something you dont.

[letswastemoney]

Okay well it's been a few days so I thought I should update.

I argued for a lower price point. I said it would be expensive to drive to this place (it's a long drive to a bigger city from where I am), I'm not a rich person, I pleaded with her to understand I'm not a bank account and couldn't afford more than my lowered price point. The fact she wanted to kick me out early was a bargaining point for a lower price as well.

She hesitantly agreed at first, although she repeatedly called me back trying to get me to pay more. She tried to make me feel guilty about it, saying I promised to pay this exact amount. But I stood my ground.

She changed her mind hours later and said not to come to the motel anymore

Anyways, end of story, I probably shouldn't say anymore

[Greyfox]

Sorry to hear the sad ending, but there are lots of fish in the sea.
You have two choices.
1. Take a walk down lonely street to Heartbreak Hotel

or see next post.

http://www.tommymarkham.com/OPG/Heart_Break_Hotel.jpg

[Greyfox]

2. Start singing "Got along without you before I met you....XhBuLDBvdNA

[LottaKash]

Okay well it's been a few days so I thought I should update.

I argued for a lower price point. I said it would be expensive to drive to this place (it's a long drive to a bigger city from where I am), I'm not a rich person, I pleaded with her to understand I'm not a bank account and couldn't afford more than my lowered price point. The fact she wanted to kick me out early was a bargaining point for a lower price as well.

She hesitantly agreed at first, although she repeatedly called me back trying to get me to pay more. She tried to make me feel guilty about it, saying I promised to pay this exact amount. But I stood my ground.

She changed her mind hours later and said not to come to the motel anymore

Anyways, end of story, I probably shouldn't say anymore

Shallow girl, imo....I believe you saved yourself a lot of grief and confusion in the process....A girl that shallow, no one needs....Some girlfriend....

Very suspicious, and you don't need to know anymore....good for you...

best,

[jonnielu]

She does. I pay for some, but I give the money to her and she sets up everything.

And since she kicks me out, she checks out.

What's the tatoo/body piercing count? Over 3 combined, and you have yourself a lunatic. Check out http://crackreality.com and see if anything hits you as familiar.

These bumps in the relationship road can be avoided by inviting relationship prospects for the Denahan Laundry Test. Simple, effective, it turns up lunatic women better even more reliably then the tatoo/ body piercing / pet count.

jdl

[illinoisbred]

Keep your mind on whats important-9 races today -somewhere,anywhere. Or if you're a multi-track player 18,or 27, or even 36. And guess what- theres 9 more tommorrow. So buck up and get back to what really matters! Girls come and go-they always will. Follow that advice and you can end up like me-single at 53!

[DJofSD]

Sorry to hear the ways have parted.

Intro is about 30 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnaMIEI0h8

[miesque]

Okay well it's been a few days so I thought I should update.

I argued for a lower price point. I said it would be expensive to drive to this place (it's a long drive to a bigger city from where I am), I'm not a rich person, I pleaded with her to understand I'm not a bank account and couldn't afford more than my lowered price point. The fact she wanted to kick me out early was a bargaining point for a lower price as well.

She hesitantly agreed at first, although she repeatedly called me back trying to get me to pay more. She tried to make me feel guilty about it, saying I promised to pay this exact amount. But I stood my ground.

She changed her mind hours later and said not to come to the motel anymore

Anyways, end of story, I probably shouldn't say anymore

While I know you must feel pretty lousy, after reading your update I can without a doubt now state that you are substantially better off without her and that this is someone who is going to cost you a tremendous amount of grief and agony, not to mention money if you did not part company. I actually find it pretty appalling that she was calling you up trying to get you pay more when you made it clear it was not immaterial to your wallet. As a general rule, any woman that is already pushing the money card when you are just dating is going to be more and more trouble as the relationship goes on. I am someone who likes nice things and travels well but I would never try to force or shame someone else into pick up that tab, which is exactly what she is doing.

[Greyfox]

So I awoke this morning and the following song was on my mind.
It sounds like she's telling you : "If you got the money honey...

Here's Left Frizzell putting to music.
vYUr4wNdDZc

[BlueShoe]

These bumps in the relationship road can be avoided by inviting relationship prospects for the Denahan Laundry Test.
Would you care to elaborate a bit about this test? Some of us have had a much harder time picking winning relationships than we have had picking winning horses.

[Robert Goren]

Lefty got it right.;)

[Grits]

LMW, do yourself a favor and stand your ground further. Don't return her calls. Regardless, whether they're repeated several times a day. Once a day. Or, once a week. She'll get the message when she's ignored.

On the other hand you could try this.

Meet her once more at her hotel of choice. Price doesn't matter, you're fine with it. Well into the evening, preferably while both of you are comfortable but before you consummate your evening--Get out of the bed. Pick up your clothes. Go in the bathroom and dress. Walk out, look at her, open your wallet. Throw a handful of twenties on the bed. Or a hundred dollar bill, even. Softly state, "I have no problem leaving you early; you're not worth any of this."

Quietly close the door behind you.

You're done. Don't bother with her again.

Sometimes, men need schooling in how to handle women such as this one--and usually no one is better at this than another woman. Hopefully, you've learned a lesson you can carry with you. One may negotiate a peace treaty, a salary, a car, a home, etc. One doesn't negotiate getting laid.

Life is short. Don't look back. But most of all, don't ever let a woman treat you like this again.

[Greyfox]

Sometimes, men need schooling in how to handle women such as this one--

Yes. Some men need schooling. Rhett Butler knew how to say:

"Frankly my dear I don't give a damn."



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[illinoisbred]

Thats good advice Mr. Wastemoney. Afterall, your name's not LetsBe A Doormat.

[Dave Schwartz]

Keep your mind on whats important-9 races today -somewhere,anywhere. Or if you're a multi-track player 18,or 27, or even 36. And guess what- theres 9 more tommorrow. So buck up and get back to what really matters! Girls come and go-they always will. Follow that advice and you can end up like me-single at 53!

Illini,

You are the guy!
:lol:


Dave

[jonnielu]

Would you care to elaborate a bit about this test? Some of us have had a much harder time picking winning relationships than we have had picking winning horses.

Funny... that you would put it that way. In my humble experience, I would say that on both counts, one might do much better to only pick his nose (never when amongst polite society), and simply let the relationships and winning horses happen.

Not such a bad habit at the track, at least there, you can get the results within 2 minutes. But, picking a winning relationship, meaning that you would choose a woman and commit yourself to "making it work", can often lead a perfectly good man to a lifetime spent on his knees. Since about half of people (men and women) subscribe to this philosophy, while the other half (men and women) subscribe to taking advantage of those that subscribe to the "choose/commit/make it work" philosophy.

While the Denahan laundry test can be used by members of either sex, it is most useful to men that are aware of the endless manipulations that women can be capable of. The Denahan laundry test is a harmless yet helpful exercise in really getting to know a woman. Her basic character, and her real outlook/attitude towards men.

If a man has decided that he would like to let a relationship go beyond the dating stage, the Denahan laundry test is a good idea, because this stage is the best place to take either a big step back, or an immediate turn to the south, if it is needed. The Denahan laundry test is quite reliable in determining a best course of action at this crucial point. But...

never tell a woman that you are laundry testing her. If a woman has any idea that she is being laundry tested, results will be forever... inconclusive. Never use the laundry test as an opening line or ice-breaker. Never approach a woman at a bar or social setting with "I'd like to laundry test you", or "you really put the starch in my collar, how 'bout we do some laundry in the morning?"

Remember, this is only for a woman that you are thinking of sharing your remote control with. The type of woman that you are starting to feel the kind of love for that you would eat whatever she cooks, and enjoy it. When you are thinking that you would be willing to make love to this woman with only your face, for the rest of your life... then, it is time to carefully slide in a laundry test.

During casual conversation with your prospect, you tell her that you feel that the relationship has progressed, and is progressing such that you feel it would be good to get together to do some everyday things together. Invite her over next Saturday for brunch, and tell her to bring her clothes with her for a rousing session, of wash. The two of you could do a few loads while preparing a fabulous brunch.

If she brings her laundry, plus everything she needs to do her laundry, you have a candidate that can move immediately to the time test.

If she brings her laundry, and assumes/expects that you will have the woolite, and particular liquid fabric softener that she prefers.... or worse... expects you to make a woolite run.... employ exit/extraction strategy with all due haste.

If she flunks the laundry test, yet did have the presence of mind to bring some really exciting cheese, delay exit/extraction long enough to get your fill, and still make the Daily Double.

Remember, women are like horse races, the next one is only 20 minutes away.

jdl

[Greyfox]

:lol: :ThmbUp: Luv the idea.
Except I wouldn't put that effort into it. I'd put on a cheap shirt.
I'd spill wine on my shirt and say "Geez...I have to go wash this out."
If she reacts saying "No..I can get that out..."
I'd rip my shirt off...and we'd start conversing from there.
Neither of you would have to bother doing laundry tonight.

If she shows no interest in cleaning the stain.....
you don't have to come clean with her either.....
No reason to tell any "dirty laundry" or discuss any dirty laundry you might have tomorrow.

[miesque]

Funny... that you would put it that way. In my humble experience, I would say that on both counts, one might do much better to only pick his nose (never when amongst polite society), and simply let the relationships and winning horses happen.

Not such a bad habit at the track, at least there, you can get the results within 2 minutes. But, picking a winning relationship, meaning that you would choose a woman and commit yourself to "making it work", can often lead a perfectly good man to a lifetime spent on his knees. Since about half of people (men and women) subscribe to this philosophy, while the other half (men and women) subscribe to taking advantage of those that subscribe to the "choose/commit/make it work" philosophy.

While the Denahan laundry test can be used by members of either sex, it is most useful to men that are aware of the endless manipulations that women can be capable of. The Denahan laundry test is a harmless yet helpful exercise in really getting to know a woman. Her basic character, and her real outlook/attitude towards men.

If a man has decided that he would like to let a relationship go beyond the dating stage, the Denahan laundry test is a good idea, because this stage is the best place to take either a big step back, or an immediate turn to the south, if it is needed. The Denahan laundry test is quite reliable in determining a best course of action at this crucial point. But...

never tell a woman that you are laundry testing her. If a woman has any idea that she is being laundry tested, results will be forever... inconclusive. Never use the laundry test as an opening line or ice-breaker. Never approach a woman at a bar or social setting with "I'd like to laundry test you", or "you really put the starch in my collar, how 'bout we do some laundry in the morning?"

Remember, this is only for a woman that you are thinking of sharing your remote control with. The type of woman that you are starting to feel the kind of love for that you would eat whatever she cooks, and enjoy it. When you are thinking that you would be willing to make love to this woman with only your face, for the rest of your life... then, it is time to carefully slide in a laundry test.

During casual conversation with your prospect, you tell her that you feel that the relationship has progressed, and is progressing such that you feel it would be good to get together to do some everyday things together. Invite her over next Saturday for brunch, and tell her to bring her clothes with her for a rousing session, of wash. The two of you could do a few loads while preparing a fabulous brunch.

If she brings her laundry, plus everything she needs to do her laundry, you have a candidate that can move immediately to the time test.

If she brings her laundry, and assumes/expects that you will have the woolite, and particular liquid fabric softener that she prefers.... or worse... expects you to make a woolite run.... employ exit/extraction strategy with all due haste.

If she flunks the laundry test, yet did have the presence of mind to bring some really exciting cheese, delay exit/extraction long enough to get your fill, and still make the Daily Double.

Remember, women are like horse races, the next one is only 20 minutes away.

jdl

What if she has no interest in doing laundry as a joint activity or having someone else messing around in the kictchen when she is cooking?

[BlueShoe]

Interesting theory, must consider it for a future test. I can see it now; "I found my true love over a box of Tide", or "When she poured in the bleach we both knew that we were meant for each other", and so on. Ah Love.

[jonnielu]

What if she has no interest in doing laundry as a joint activity or having someone else messing around in the kictchen when she is cooking?

An obvious lesbian with a chip on her shoulder, and certainly not one that you would want to share command of the remote with. Possible running/drinking-buddy material, but the wise man would make sure to never find her shoes in his closet, because this one would have stuff in the medicine cabinet too.

jdl

[miesque]

An obvious lesbian with a chip on her shoulder, and certainly not one that you would want to share command of the remote with. Possible running/drinking-buddy material, but the wise man would make sure to never find her shoes in his closet, because this one would have stuff in the medicine cabinet too.

jdl

Now that is an enlightened, modern response :rolleyes: