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46zilzal
01-15-2010, 02:32 PM
2nd :3: :6: stand out but :2: :10: :9: might hang on with the early pace

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 04:10 PM
5th :6: :7: out front with :2: :3: :4: later

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 04:11 PM
2nd :3: :6: stand out but :2: :10: :9: might hang on with the early pace


1st race - Oaklawn Park - January 15, 2010

Video Race Replay
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
9 Poni Colada 8.80 4.40 4.20
2 Deputy Sreva 10.60 7.20
10 Mr. Pursuit 4.40

$2 Exacta 9-2 128.60
$1 Trifecta 9-2-10 587.20

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 04:38 PM
5th :6: :7: out front with :2: :3: :4: later
close 6/2/1a

5th race - Oaklawn Park - January 15, 2010

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
6 Hidden Bay 16.80 6.40 4.20
2 Northern Vow 6.20 4.20
1A Pointing Home 5.20

$2 Exacta 6-2 95.20
$1 Trifecta 6-2-1 378.60

Still the exacta was okay with both top selections...Should have hit all in third but sadly did not

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 04:56 PM
7th :5: :8: out front with :9: :12: :2: coming at them later

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 05:10 PM
7th :5: :8: out front with :9: :12: :2: coming at them later
2/8/12 trifecta


7th race - Oaklawn Park - January 15, 2010

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
2 Bell's Shoes 7.40 3.80 3.20
8 Hidden Value 5.20 4.00
12 Sizzleate 12.60

$2 Exacta 2-8 37.20
$1 Trifecta 2-8-12 414.20

kingfin66
01-15-2010, 05:20 PM
1st race - Oaklawn Park - January 15, 2010

Video Race Replay
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
9 Poni Colada 8.80 4.40 4.20
2 Deputy Sreva 10.60 7.20
10 Mr. Pursuit 4.40

$2 Exacta 9-2 128.60
$1 Trifecta 9-2-10 587.20

So, what are you doing here, laying out pace scenarios? In one race you said that the :3: and :6: "stand out," yet you claim an exacta and trifecta (I am taking the bold font to be your claiming that you had them) which does not include either horse.

This is the selections section, thus, it seems reasonable to expect selections. What you are doing has the appearance of selecting 5 horses in case one of them, or some combination of them, do something good you can claim victory.

I saw you doing something similar to this in the off topic section (why off topic?) the other day. Nobody will doubt if you hit something if either (a) you call it before the race, or (b) post a shot of you account that shows the bet and payoff.

Thank you for your consideration.

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 05:26 PM
Selections means what it means: Selections on how the race will run.

Wagers are a completely different ball game. CONSTRUCTION of a wager is based upon the variations and possibilities of what the Pace says.

Wagers are done after one figures out the possible pace scenarios ,including the random illogical ones that often come in second and third.

Wager construction is a separate aspect of the game

In the first race, ON OPENING DAY, there is no track profile (although Oaklawn is usually an early course) so based upon the tracks they CAME FROM, not the speed oval there are running on today, the three and four did look very good, BUT their early/late balance was far far too late for the profile at Oaklawn, their being -21.9 (the three) and -28.4 (the four) when the profile for 8.5 is between a range of +2 to +5 and is about 4 points higher for maidens. At best they were an underneath bet in the exotic and that is where they went.

I do and have done well for years despite the constant malarkey from people who can't stand it that some us have this game figured out. SHould be after being a Sartininte for almost 28 years and an original tester on many of the programs.

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 05:34 PM
feature :2: :7: :5: pace with :1: :6: coming late....

Tee
01-15-2010, 05:39 PM
#4

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 05:48 PM
I saw you doing something similar to this in the off topic section (why off topic?) the other day. Nobody will doubt if you hit something if either (a) you call it before the race, or (b) post a shot of you account that shows the bet and payoff.

Thank you for your consideration.
I just posted a note at Sartin Alums regarding the philosophy and where it comes from:
While rummaging in some old papers, I found some notes I took many years back
from a fellow who, to this day, is probably the best wagerer I have EVER been
around. I used to joke that he would have a hard time telling us which end of a
horse ate and which end pooped.

I used to play soft ball with a group from the the hospital and he was married
to one of the scub nurses who, in covering some of my rookie mistakes, made her
a special friend. In speaking with them, I found that he was found of the races
and the three of us went out to the (at that time) very foreign standard bred
races (funny as that is where I work today).

We arrived and he almost never looked at the program (all of the past
performances are not in the FORM but in the program), studied the odds board
intensely and proceeded to make $3000 for the night only betting exotics. Well I
was dumbfounded, so near the last race, I asked him if he would go over his
philosophy of betting and, paraphrased, here is what he said:

1) Do you come here to pick winners or make money? If it is the latter, you will
stay away from the straight pools almost all the time. The real money is in
(what he called hitting the long ball) the exotic pools. Lots of dumb money in
there. ACCEPT the fact, that in looking for the longer priced exotics, you have
to be able to withstand (emotionally) runs of 4 or 5 where you miss the prize or
the payout is not much more than the money invested.
2) The majority of people here arrived to socialize and have a fun outing so
even if they know horses, they are not putting in the time necessary to
construct wagers that are aggressive enough (he called it "moving into the pool
enough," which I found to mean not making a large enough wager to cover the
possibilities) to win long term.
3) ALL the long ball exotics share one thing in common: illogical horses. You
have to accept that fact that between the start and finish of a race, so many
things can happen to the logical ones, that the illogical often sneak in. These
horses simply make no sense so accept that fact. (He used the ALL button often
underneath).
4) Just about all the long ball exotics contain logical horses,but that does not
mean favorites. Having a vulnerable favorite run third or, better yet, run out,
increases the value a lot.
5) Decide on either ONE TWO or THREE logical ones and hook them to several
illogical ones and have enough capital for the several you are going to miss on
the way to hitting the LONG BALL.


Good advice

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 06:04 PM
9th :4: :5: :9: and :5: is improving

Tee
01-15-2010, 06:08 PM
:2: :8:

46zilzal
01-15-2010, 06:15 PM
9th :4: :5: :9: and :5: is improving
th race - Oaklawn Park - January 15, 2010

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
9 Nevill's Mistake 6.20 4.00 3.20
12 Gold Ember 7.20 5.20
5 Winner's Story 13.40

$2 Daily Double 6-9 53.20
$2 Exacta 9-12 59.20
$1 Superfecta 9-12-5-3 10,720.60
$1 Trifecta 9-12-5 1,293.60

12 was the illogical random one in another SPLITZACTA