The Cleansing of Massachusetts

[bigmack]

He - could - go - all - the - way.


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[hcap]

You know he posed for a Cosmos' centerfold?

[Tom]

Was that supposed to be a reply? :lol:
Wow, you have nothing? Really?

[bigmack]

You know he posed for a Cosmos' centerfold?
You have it on your wall?

[Robert Goren]

You have it on your wall? You are the one with the pictures.
(That was just too easy;) )

[hcap]

You have it on your wall?
You are the admirer. You tell me.

Oh wait I forgot. You got this one.

http://ghengisjung.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bigmac.jpg

Oh well, I suppose a simple centerfold is a hell of lot less damaging than if he had posed as a dancing cheeseburger!

[lamboguy]

not that i like either candidate here, but if this guy gets elected he mightbe able to stop the stupid health care bill infront of the senate. and i mean MIGHT with a capital M because all these guys in the congress want to do is ram this damn bill down you throats and make you pay for these idiot ideas that are going to make the crummy doctors and rotten insurance company's more of your money.'


i donated $100 to BROWN"S campaign and promised him $500 if he wins the contest.

the democrats are laughing at us right now. they don't even care about getting reelected. that is what is so sick of this thing to begin with. this bill is 100 times worse that the contract with america during clinton.

[bigmack]

State Attorney General Coakley seemed to have a lock on the race going in. But with the special election one week away, recent polling suggests GOP state Sen. Scott Brown could have a shot at not only winning the longtime Democratic seat but breaking the party's filibuster-proof majority in Washington.

In a bid to prevent this nightmare scenario for Democrats, Kerry, the state's senior senator, has contributed his e-mail list of 3 million people to the Coakley campaign. According to an aide, he's sent out four e-mails to drive up turnout and fundraising. And he plans to campaign for Coakley alongside former President Bill Clinton Friday in Kerry's first public appearance since his hip replacement surgery a week ago.

"This is our wake-up call," Kerry said in an e-mail that went out Tuesday seeking to drum up $225,000 for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on Coakley's behalf. "Polls in Massachusetts are tightening, and one even shows a dead heat in the fight to keep Ted Kennedy's seat in the hands of a Democrat who will fight and vote for jobs, health care, clean energy and mainstream values."

Kerry & Clinton - Help or hindrance?

[lamboguy]

State Attorney General Coakley seemed to have a lock on the race going in. But with the special election one week away, recent polling suggests GOP state Sen. Scott Brown could have a shot at not only winning the longtime Democratic seat but breaking the party's filibuster-proof majority in Washington.

In a bid to prevent this nightmare scenario for Democrats, Kerry, the state's senior senator, has contributed his e-mail list of 3 million people to the Coakley campaign. According to an aide, he's sent out four e-mails to drive up turnout and fundraising. And he plans to campaign for Coakley alongside former President Bill Clinton Friday in Kerry's first public appearance since his hip replacement surgery a week ago.

"This is our wake-up call," Kerry said in an e-mail that went out Tuesday seeking to drum up $225,000 for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on Coakley's behalf. "Polls in Massachusetts are tightening, and one even shows a dead heat in the fight to keep Ted Kennedy's seat in the hands of a Democrat who will fight and vote for jobs, health care, clean energy and mainstream values."

Kerry & Clinton - Help or hindrance?one thing for sure, martha got a better shot to win senate than kerry when he has to face the music next time.

[bigmack]

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[PaceAdvantage]

You know he posed for a Cosmos' centerfold?In this day and age, isn't that a plus?

[Tom]

The level of replies from the let here are....amusing.
Nice try by the "Fascists of Mascits".....the dems wins, she gets seated immediately. The repub wins, two month wait.

[prospector]

she went to a fund raiser last night in washington filled with lobbists..her staff pushed down a reporter..not a great night for her...go scott..

[bigmack]

she went to a fund raiser last night in washington filled with lobbists..her staff pushed down a reporter..not a great night for her...go scott..
Lovely. I hope the local stations are playing this for folk to see. You see in the video she simply keeps walking without a care in the world for the reporter.

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[bigmack]

Shoulda known. The thug is an Obama appointee.

Back on Mars, while the picture shows Coakley watching the whole brouhaha, she claims she hasn't a clue what happened. This after she left a fund raiser attended by lobbyists for many of the biggest drug and insurance companies in America. :lol:

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[Tom]

A Brownshirt?

[exactaplayer]

Another case of lesser of two evils. My bet is on Coakley in this race. Do not like all the health care providers giving her support but I think she wins it.
Another senator bought and paid for by corporate America. Damn

[cj's dad]

Another case of lesser of two evils. My bet is on Coakley in this race. Do not like all the health care providers giving her support but I think she wins it.
Another senator bought and paid for by corporate America. Damn

You really should pay attention to what is happening in this country;, and stop believing the libs agenda.

[hcap]

'"I'm a Scott Brown Republican," Brown told the paper when asked about his ideological alliances. When a reporter asked him about the support from the tea party groups, he apparently demurred. "He also claimed that he was unfamiliar with the 'Tea Party movement,' when asked by a reporter," the Globe reports.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/campaigns_going.html

[hazzardm]

Those folks were dumb enough to keep voting for Whisky Ted and Flip/Flop, they will probably get her in as well. :(

[PaceAdvantage]

My TURD of the day award goes to Michael Meehan.

[exactaplayer]

You really should pay attention to what is happening in this country;, and stop believing the libs agenda.
You really should check out who is giving money to these candidates. I know what is happening in this country, do you ? Or are you still buying into that faux bs ?

[Tom]

Since most in Congress are dems, one must assume, from your posts, that they are the ones that are most beholding to the evil corporations. One could further assume that since the repubs once controlled both houses and the WH, and lost them all to desm, that it was because the repubs were not satisfying thier evil masters where dems would.

So you are telling me the rpeubs ar the more honest of them all and are out of power because the evil money if propping up the liberal dems.

Thank you for explaining that to us. :ThmbUp:

[delayjf]

Speaking of Mass, how is their Gov run healthcare working out??

[hazzardm]

A Brownshirt?

No, it's a Brown "No" Shirt

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/scott-brown-nude-in-cosmo

[bigmack]

Is this guy for real. 'Opponents of change' - 'Special interests'

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She's funded by Pharma & the insurance industry :bang:

[Tom]

So is Barry the Bastard.
The question is, is there intelligent life in Mass?
No person with an IQ above a turnip could vote for this bitch.
But Boston is known for it's turnips.
I have no faith they will do the right thing.

[PaceAdvantage]

Is this guy for real. 'Opponents of change' - 'Special interests'Sounds like a page right out of the "politics of fear" handbook.

Obama has had 60 votes most of his first year in office, correct? Who exactly is he "fighting against," as he states in the video?

[bigmack]

The chain of events going on from these out of touch fools smells like napalm.

I'd love the smell of napalm on the morning of Jan 20.

Senate health bill’s surcharge on high-cost plans could eventually end up hitting middle class hard.

Many Massachusetts workers could face reduced medical benefits under a proposed tax in the US Senate’s health overhaul bill that is designed to pressure employers to offer less costly insurance coverage.

Dubbed a “Cadillac’’ tax because it was originally aimed at highly paid executives with premier health plans, the measure now looks more like a Ford or Hyundai tax, according to health care industry analysts. They say the penalty will eventually affect a wide spectrum of people with middle-class incomes but high-cost benefits, particularly in Massachusetts, where insurance premiums are the highest in the nation.

“You’re likely to reach Cadillac status pretty quickly’’ in Massachusetts, said Robert W. Seifert, a health overhaul specialist at the University of Massachusetts Medical School’s Center for Health Law and Economics in Charlestown. He said the goal of the measure is to encourage employers to keep costs down. But “The danger is that the incentive would be strong enough so that you’d solve your problem by pushing it to the individuals.’’

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[PaceAdvantage]

The absolute most hilarious part of all of this is that hcap's only retort on this whole situation is that Brown once posed for Cosmo centerfold. :lol: :lol: :lol:

As if that is supposed to somehow negate him as a viable candidate!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I mean, hcap was actually serious when he posted that tidbit of info....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must have thought we'd all SHRIEK out in HORROR while passing out onto the floor after learning of such a dastardly deed!!! :eek: :lol: :D

[ArlJim78]

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[ArlJim78]

So they sent in the political crisis managers from Washington, paid the union goons to parade around with Coakley signs, coughed up millions from the SEIU, and Obama's video appeal to the Massachusetts voters, and the result is the bottom has fallen out (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Massachusetts-Bottom-has-fallen-out-of-Coakleys-poll-numbers-Dems-prepare-to-explain-defeat-protect-Obama-81681862.html)of Chokely's, oops I mean Coakleys numbers?
Now they seem to be circling the wagons around Obama to save face, and we'll probably start hearing chatter from the Dem's now about how bad Coakley was as a candidate. in other words, another one under the bus.


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Massachusetts: 'Bottom has fallen out' of Coakley's polls; Dems prepare to explain defeat, protect Obama

By: Byron York (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bios/byron-york.html)
Chief Political Correspondent
01/15/10 7:10 AM EST

Here in Massachusetts, as well as in Washington, a growing sense of gloom is setting in among Democrats about the fortunes of Democratic Senate candidate Martha Coakley. "I have heard that in the last two days the bottom has fallen out of her poll numbers," says one well-connected Democratic strategist. In her own polling, Coakley is said to be around five points behind Republican Scott Brown. "If she's not six or eight ahead going into the election, all the intensity is on the other side in terms of turnout," the Democrat says. "So right now, she is destined to lose."



Read more at the Washington Examiner:

[GaryG]

Maybe Suff will reappear with a new identity and tell us how he feels about all of this.

[BenDiesel26]

You really should check out who is giving money to these candidates. I know what is happening in this country, do you ? Or are you still buying into that faux bs ?

Exactly. The SEIU and other unions have donated hundreds of millions of dollars in labor and campaign contributions to those currently in power, and the effects are being seen, as they are shaping the agenda of the country despite being a very small minority of citizens. Andy Stern has logged more visits to the Whitehouse than any other, and today we find out they just got themselves a nice 60 billion dollar tax break in the pending health care legislation that other Americans are still on the hook for.

"The SEIU's agenda is my agenda." Obama

"I've spent my entire adult life working for the SEIU." Obama

[bigmack]

If Brown wins we could perhaps hear a reprise of his daughter singing The SSB.

A Coakley win would schlep out someone like Rosanne Barr.


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[GaryG]

Barney Frank says that a win by Brown will kill the health bill. The president is telling people to put on their walking shoes. Virtual panic at this point. And Brown is raising $1 mil per day. This is great.

[illinoisbred]

Absolutely Great!

[Tom]

Barney Frank says that a win by Brown will kill the health bill. The president is telling people to put on their walking shoes. Virtual panic at this point. And Brown is raising $1 mil per day. This is great.

Damn good thing he didn't say "work" shoes - most of his followers would have no idea where to look for them! :lol::lol::lol:

[prospector]

that picture of her just looking down at the reporter mugged by her staffer is hurting her bigtime...
go brown...kill that damn bill! and start over on specific problems..one by one..

[BenDiesel26]

Looks like the dems there are digging deeper and deeper into the Alinsky smear tactics. They have now resorted to the next step in their normal campaign, name calling. No substance of course. Just, "he's radical and a tea bagger" type of stuff. The normal if you can't argue the facts or get people to vote for you on substance, smear the opponent.

[bigmack]

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[ElKabong]

Just read where Coakley called Curt Schilling a Yankee's fan. This woman is gold.

She was on air tonite (WBZ), took a lot of heat. FR has a thread on it,


"Martha is taking a beating.
Nurse on the phone berating her for the emergency room religious brouhaha..."

"The calls so far are VERY encouraging for us since this show is almost ALWAYS lib lib lib."

"That Woman Nurse who just called in completely destroyed her."

"Traditional liberal after liberal are denouncing her"

Who are you going to vote for?
Scott Brown
( 77% )
Martha Coakley
( 21% )
Joseph L. Kennedy
( 2% )

[boxcar]

Damn good thing he didn't say "work" shoes - most of his followers would have no idea where to look for them! :lol::lol::lol:

Actually, they don't know what they even look like -- they've never heard shoes described as "work" types.

Boxcar

[boxcar]

It seems like the folks in Mass are going to be quite passionate about this election because they hate their own brand of socialized medicine up there, so they want nothing to do with the federal brand either. And this is precisely what this election is all about -- health care "reform"!

I heard from a friend of mine that Brown's internal polls have him up right now by about 11 points. It would be bad enough in this deep, deep, deep blue state that hasn't had a Republican senator in 40 years if Brown were to lose in a close one. It would be catastrophic if he were to pull out a win. But if were to pull off an upset in double digits -- this could signal the end of the of the end of the age. Even the MM might be lost for words. :lol:

Boxcar
P.S. BO has no sense. He's letting his narcissism cloud his thinking. Visiting the state this weekend, I believe, will be the kiss of death for his gal -- just like it was in NJ.

[ElKabong]

Nah, the 0 will work his magical powers just as he did in VA, NJ, and by bringing the olympics to Chicago....

Seriously, if the dems can't hold on to Kennedy's former seat, the writing is on the wall. Those blue dawgs are going to run for cover by next weekend. 0bie will be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. Fact is, having a repub simply threatening to take this seat is stunning.

This must be disturbing news to Axelrod and the Ballerina. Those sunday morning shows are gonna be a hoot.

[ArlJim78]

a big win by Brown would be historic. a huge blow to democrats, the end of camelot, Bill Clinton kicked to the curb again, and the end of hopeandchange.

they'll still try to ram healthcare through reconciliation, but that will go down as the final straw. the democratic party will be nothing but smoldering embers by november.

[bigmack]

Personally, I've never seen anything like this. The fallout, the irony, the implications are grand.

This entire current HC reform, and all the back room deals will go clockwise down a tremendously large commode.

The one issue Teddy wanted and it may be thwarted by the lone vote in his previously held seat!

The complete political annihilation of those that have arrogantly tried to push this garbage on us when we no longer even want it.

Reid - gone.
Pelosi - gone.

Obama's credibility in total shatters. Transparency and all that went along with it exposed as bald-faced lies. All the long hours wasted that could have been used towards unemployment or the economy.

The list goes on & on with the possible result of one special election that was taken for granted in victory by more arrogance.

Wow.

[Track Collector]

What can Brown do for you? Apparently quite a bit for America. :jump:

Credit goes to my wife for thinking his one up!! :D

[Tom]

This just in.....Obama has ordered everyone he has thrown under the bus pulled back out so that the bus can be sued to transport Black Panthers to Boston polls Sunday.

[LutherCalvin]

A win by the Republican Brown in Massachusetts would restore my faith in the American electorate. The anti-obama pushback would be in full swing. Virginia-New Jersey-Massachusetts. Now thats a winning trifecta!

[NJ Stinks]

If you guys lose on Tuesday, I would hate to be in your presence on Wednesday. :p

[bigmack]

If you guys lose on Tuesday, I would hate to be in your presence on Wednesday. :p
Can we assume you're rooting for your devoted party, or in this case, dead meat?

[PaceAdvantage]

If you guys lose on Tuesday, I would hate to be in your presence on Wednesday. :pThe fact that it's this close going into the vote is a victory in itself, no matter the outcome.

After all, Republicans were deemed "DEAD AND BURIED" here soon after the 2008 elections.

And now, here we are, barely one year later, and a MASSACHUSETTS DEMOCRAT is in the fight of her life over a senate seat....against a REPUBLICAN no less!

As someone else just said....WOW.

[eastie]

now everyone knows they have to go out and vote,,bad news for REPUBLICAN Scott Brown, as the Coakley ads say. You don't really think this joker is gonna win do you? Don't go to strangers guys. :cool:

[lamboguy]

i am going to tell you something that after living in mass my whole life, it is really a very conservetive state. sure on the surface all people see are the kennedy's getting elected here for 5 decades. alll of the colleges in the area with all their liberal views. for years the conservetives have thought that so many liberals will come out and vote that they have stayed away from the voting booths. this time around they think they have a big chance. in my opinion, the republican is going to win this senate seat and he will win by a big margain. if they play around with his certification there will be alot of angry people all over the place. i also think that most people in this country don't like the health care deal. its the same as the one romney gave us here in mass, and its no good

[boxcar]

If you guys lose on Tuesday, I would hate to be in your presence on Wednesday. :p

But if Brown wins on Tuesday, we fully expect to see you because we want to get your spin on record.

Boxcar

[NJ Stinks]

The fact that it's this close going into the vote is a victory in itself, no matter the outcome.

After all, Republicans were deemed "DEAD AND BURIED" here soon after the 2008 elections.

And now, here we are, barely one year later, and a MASSACHUSETTS DEMOCRAT is in the fight of her life over a senate seat....against a REPUBLICAN no less!

As someone else just said....WOW.

True enough.

And yes, Bigmack, I'm rooting for the Democrat. I couldn't root for a Republican if I had money on him. :p :)

Boxcar, win or lose, I'll be here Tuesday night.

[boxcar]

True enough.

And yes, Bigmack, I'm rooting for the Democrat. I couldn't root for a Republican if I had money on him. :p :)

Boxcar, win or lose, I'll be here Tuesday night.

Good. You have plenty of time to work on your spin speech until then. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[witchdoctor]

Good. You have plenty of time to work on your spin speech until then. :rolleyes:

Boxcar


Spin you say. Somehow I am on the Dem's mailing list and got this nugget.

"I just got up to Martha Coakley's campaign HQ to help her win Tuesday's crucial special election. I have to tell you -- this isn't like anything Massachusetts has ever seen.

It's happening right after the holidays, so a lot of people haven't even heard about it. Meanwhile, the same guys behind the Swift Boat ads are taking over the airwaves to distort Martha's record, and the same far-right tea-party crowd that's attacking President Obama is funding her opponent."

Personally, I suspect the Democrat to win by 1-2% and they will scream how they have a mandate to fix this country.

[prospector]

swift boat,tea party are not insults to many conseratives...
they're a badge of honor..so keep raising those issues to remind the conseratives why they must vote..;)

[bigmack]

Refreshing to see Rahm Emanuel & Andy Stern digging into their playbooks.

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[JustRalph]

Brown has already given the right a partial win. Just by making it close.

Btw,,,,,here is your Dem voter............

"no matter how bad the candidate is" they vote Dem anyway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7484149


I guess that explains the Sex Offenders they have voted back in office

[ElKabong]

Brown has already given the right a partial win. Just by making it close.

Btw,,,,,here is your Dem voter............

"no matter how bad the candidate is" they vote Dem anyway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7484149


I guess that explains the Sex Offenders they have voted back in office

Displaying the true "fair and balanced" kind of thinking one would expect from a dem-----
BUT, this Massachusetts special Senate election is a line I will not cross. I don't care HOW awful Coakley may (or may NOT!) be. She's the Dem and that's the bottom line.

[ElKabong]

Also, if one takes time to read that board, a liberal mess, they aren't anymore for the 0bamadon'tcare Bill than conservatives are. They're realizing this admin spent the entire yr focused on this thing while the economy has gone down the shitter. 0bie has lost his shine with his base, and the independants soured on him last summer.

Give it 2 more yrs and they'll beg someone to beat his ass in the 2012 primary b/c he has zer0 shot at being reelected.

[PaceAdvantage]

Refreshing to see Rahm Emanuel & Andy Stern digging into their playbooks.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1_16_10_17_20_24.pngNothing like politicizing the horrors of rape. Is that kind of like what they are accusing Rush of doing with Haiti? Politicizing tragedy?

Yeah, I'm sure Brown wants nothing more than to turn Rape victims away from the hospital...in fact, I'm sure he's out there himself kicking the traumatized victims right to the curb...

[bigmack]

Maybe Suff will reappear with a new identity and tell us how he feels about all of this.
Without the orange hair of the aforementioned member, let's looks at another Boston take.

Mr. Mike Barnicle...

As Tuesday approaches, Coakley desperately seeks to eke out a win after she and her staff spent the past month acting like un-indicted co-conspirators in destroying a 30-point lead. She has approached the public with the demeanor of a substitute teacher with little interest in her students' lives. In a state where politics and revenge are in the blood, poor Martha Coakley apparently never learned that a name on the ballot is nothing more than a job application. People want to be asked for their vote. People want a retail shopping experience with a candidate: eye contact, a handshake. Elections are not coronations. Coakley spent a month behaving like a fugitive, attending fund-raisers and meeting with mayors instead of hurling herself at the public.
Now, Brown finished speaking. He plunged into the crowd alongside former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Given the often contrived and polarizing conflict that dominates the cable-TV landscape, it would be easy, on the outside looking in, to slap a Tea Party label on Brown's supporters. But most of those lunging for his hand were not lunatics from the fringe, merely Democrats and Independents feeling bruised, ignored and taken for granted by people in power.
So here was a state senator, virtually unknown outside of his immediate family just last Thanksgiving, being greeted with a clamor at the fire house, Ladder 1 — Engine 8, on Hanover Street. Then, it was Caffe Vittoria and Mike's Pastry, where a Republican has often been made to feel like Alex Rodriguez standing at the plate in Fenway. No longer.
Election day arrives Tuesday. Polls show it's jump ball. Democrats are on their knees praying that a last-second three pointer from Barrack Obama can save the seat and rescue his agenda. But, in a sense, Scott Brown has already won; not simply for his party, Republican, but for any candidate across the landscape who looks toward a volatile November with the message, "It's our turn."
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1954366,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

[ArlJim78]

It will make it all the more enjoyable when Brown wins this thing that The One came in on his unicorn just two days before the election to stump for Coakley.

Barnicle is right, Brown has already won. To have erased a 30 point deficit in such short time and force the dem's to bring in gobs of money and their heavy hitters to defend a seat that they all felt was the safest of safe seats, well as Carl Spackler would say, "it's a cinderella story".

[eastie]

are these Mike's actual words ? or is this another case of him using someone elses words ? The western part of the state will deliver for Coakley and save her sorry ass, that and union members like me trying to save our jobs from the union busters like Brown. Sen pres. Murray is strong behind Coakley so if she wins, we might get saved. Brown voted to bust Unions on the transportation bill. June 30th when our contract runs out, they want to bust the union and cut our pay $10 bucks an hour.....I've been a teamster for 28 years.....this is crazy. Hey Scott Brown go take a long walk off a short pier.

[prospector]

"Brown voted to bust Unions on the transportation bill"
another great reason to vote for him..

[eastie]

"Brown voted to bust Unions on the transportation bill"
another great reason to vote for him..

how many illegals on your payroll ? crawl back under your rock.

[prospector]

how many illegals on your payroll ? crawl back under your rock.
fool talking...
there never were any illegals working for me..i paid my workers above wages with health care and profit sharing because i knew they were the business..then some idiot union came in and tried to unionize my six warehouses...didn't work..treat your workers right and you don't need a union...
now, you can crawl back up the ass of your union....can't make it on your own?

[ElKabong]

Eastie,

If you were to try to unionize our workforce, we'd tell YOU to go back under your rock. You'd be jeapordizing our livelihoods.

I work for a Euro owned corp, they demand "no union" if they want to do business here. The corp I work for has hundreds of employees for the simple reasons we (1) don't unionize, (2) give an honest day's work for an honest day's pay, (3) make a profit.

If unions hadn't run off so many jobs overseas, people would almost agree with you. Chickenhead made a post a few weeks back saying each and every one of us are in competition w/ others overseas that are willing to work for far less compensation. He's right.

IMO, in order to compete, we have to be better, smarter, and yes, that means you have to work harder if the job calls for it. So if a union tells corporate they want concessions to work over 40 hrs a week, this, that & the other, then we've handed our jobs to someone else somewhere else. While basically well meant, unions have done much harm to the workforce.

[lamboguy]

they should vote out every single incumbent starting with mass. voteem all out, democrat, republican, liberal, consevetive, all are no good for us, all are the same.

[eastie]

Eastie,

If you were to try to unionize our workforce, we'd tell YOU to go back under your rock. You'd be jeapordizing our livelihoods.

I work for a Euro owned corp, they demand "no union" if they want to do business here. The corp I work for has hundreds of employees for the simple reasons we (1) don't unionize, (2) give an honest day's work for an honest day's pay, (3) make a profit.

If unions hadn't run off so many jobs overseas, people would almost agree with you. Chickenhead made a post a few weeks back saying each and every one of us are in competition w/ others overseas that are willing to work for far less compensation. He's right.

IMO, in order to compete, we have to be better, smarter, and yes, that means you have to work harder if the job calls for it. So if a union tells corporate they want concessions to work over 40 hrs a week, this, that & the other, then we've handed our jobs to someone else somewhere else. While basically well meant, unions have done much harm to the workforce.




so i guess when you get one year from retirement or if some new boss doesn't like you, it's out the door even though you just gave the company a job well done for the last 25 years. with your attitude the minimum wage is an atrocity . ever hear of workers rights ?

[Tom]

Workers have rights, yes, but they also have responsibilities.
A fact that unions all too often forget about.

[bigmack]

Eastie is a typical myopic union geek. It's all about them.

Don't touch my Union or we'll kick sand in your face. Other than that, they could give two shits about anything or anyone.

Punks, the lot of em.

[NJ Stinks]

Eastie, good luck on Tuesday. :ThmbUp:

[ElKabong]

so i guess when you get one year from retirement or if some new boss doesn't like you, it's out the door even though you just gave the company a job well done for the last 25 years. with your attitude the minimum wage is an atrocity . ever hear of workers rights ?

Yes I have. I have a "right" to earn my pay. I feel pretty fortunate that i can do that.

And I could reverse the whip on you...If your union played hard ass on a corp for too long, they'll pull the rug out from underneath you and your coworkers. In a heartbeat at that. That very scenario cost a lot of union workers security.

But you won't see that fact or logic. You're a union zombie.

I don't have a "right" to a job, and neither do you. The only difference between you and me, is I understand the previous sentence to the one you're currently reading.

[NJ Stinks]

Yes I have. I have a "right" to earn my pay. I feel pretty fortunate that i can do that.

And I could reverse the whip on you...If your union played hard ass on a corp for too long, they'll pull the rug out from underneath you and your coworkers. In a heartbeat at that. That very scenario cost a lot of union workers security.

But you won't see that fact or logic. You're a union zombie.

I don't have a "right" to a job, and neither do you. The only difference between you and me, is I understand the previous sentence to the one you're currently reading.

Workers don't have any rights without unions. Other than against stuff like a minimum wage, sexual harassment, overtime pay and other legislated stuff.

You don't even have the right to earn your pay if you sneeze the wrong way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Elkabong.

[Tom]

I will.
You are wrong.
Go figure.

[ElKabong]

Stinks,

Since I've never been fired, for sneezing or anything else, I will gladly disagree with you.

I've known very few that were fired unnecesssarily. Very few. The ones that were always got glowing references and landed something shortly thereafter (and the bosses that did the firing were pretty much outed later & karma is a bitch).

Now I'm reversing the whip....I've seen situations where a non union person that was very productive get special concessions (flex time for kid care, taking care of parents, etc) that aren't in union contracts. If these folks were part of a union they'd have been fired.

Given a choice, I don't want to be a part of a union.

[NJ Stinks]

I will.
You are wrong.
Go figure.

That's it? And you tell me to expound? :p

[bigmack]

I'm still in stitches over these flunkies.



http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1_17_10_13_27_23.png

[ElKabong]

Just saw 0bama on the news...He blew into Mass.today to try and give Coakley a boost.

Let me get this shit straight...A liberal in Mass has to have 0bama pitch for her?? :) That would be like GWB having to go to Tx a few yrs ago to "save" Perry in the last 2 days of the race. Perry won landslides, never needed any DC help in a campaign.

The dem party is in very bad shape. No other way to put it

[eastie]

you're glad about people losing their jobs. you're a real humanitarian. I bet you root for everyone except you to lose at the track too. You probably threw a party after the earthquake in Haiti. It must suck to be such a hater. Hope you change the road you're on. There is still time.

[bigmack]

you're glad about people losing their jobs. you're a real humanitarian. I bet you root for everyone except you to lose at the track too. You probably threw a party after the earthquake in Haiti. It must suck to be such a hater. Hope you change the road you're on. There is still time.
Newflash: They caused their own doom. People like you will never see that.

[ElKabong]

you're glad about people losing their jobs. you're a real humanitarian. I bet you root for everyone except you to lose at the track too. You probably threw a party after the earthquake in Haiti. It must suck to be such a hater. Hope you change the road you're on. There is still time.

Who are you asking??

If it's me, please point out where I posted I was "glad about people losing their jobs?

[bigmack]

you're glad about people losing their jobs. you're a real humanitarian. I bet you root for everyone except you to lose at the track too. You probably threw a party after the earthquake in Haiti. It must suck to be such a hater. Hope you change the road you're on. There is still time.
Furthermore, 11,000 people gained employment. They were happy to work for a more than fair wage without having the audacity to ask for more, more, more.

You question my level of humanity for reveling in arrogant clucks that got canned but yet you belong to a union that knowingly has been/is comprised of thugs and crooks who are responsible for countless acts of mayhem and thuggery over the years. Yet you turn a blind eye. You must be proud.

As long as you get yours who gives a shit. I get it.

[ranchwest]

Just saw 0bama on the news...He blew into Mass.today to try and give Coakley a boost.

Let me get this shit straight...A liberal in Mass has to have 0bama pitch for her?? :) That would be like GWB having to go to Tx a few yrs ago to "save" Perry in the last 2 days of the race. Perry won landslides, never needed any DC help in a campaign.

The dem party is in very bad shape. No other way to put it

Hahaha!

That's about like saying the previous year's Super Bowl champs are in bad shape because they're down by 1 at half-time of the first game of the season.

Just looks like a typical mid-term adjustment to me. The Dems still have more hardcore loyalists than the Repubs. It's the other 30% that vascilates almost daily. Our country is run based on people who don't really have any idea what their beliefs are. The news media does what sells ads and the lemmings follow.

[ranchwest]

Furthermore, 11,000 people gained employment. They were happy to work for a more than fair wage without having the audacity to ask for more, more, more.

You question my level of humanity for reveling in arrogant clucks that got canned but yet you belong to a union that knowingly has been/is comprised of thugs and crooks who are responsible for countless acts of mayhem and thuggery over the years. Yet you turn a blind eye. You must be proud.

As long as you get yours who gives a shit. I get it.

There's no thugs and crooks in management? I mean, I'm just sayin'....

[Tom]

It hangs, Tuesday, on who is concerned enough, and smart enough, to go vote. I hold small hope that dems will be beat, but I have some hope that the horrors of their failed health care will be stronger than their inherent ignorance. Mass. is generally a disgrace of a state. The people there are pretty hapless. I will be surprised if enough of them them can stand up and pretend they are once again Amercians.

[Tom]

There's no thugs and crooks in management? I mean, I'm just sayin'....

Of course, but much higher caliber crooks and thugs.

[ElKabong]

Hahaha!

That's about like saying the previous year's Super Bowl champs are in bad shape because they're down by 1 at half-time of the first game of the season.

Just looks like a typical mid-term adjustment to me. The Dems still have more hardcore loyalists than the Repubs. It's the other 30% that vascilates almost daily. Our country is run based on people who don't really have any idea what their beliefs are. The news media does what sells ads and the lemmings follow.


ranch,

My post stated GWB didn't campaign for here in Tx Perry in the last week of any of his races. Is that statement correct? Perry has romped vs dems. Coakley is hanging by a thread.

GWB didn't have to pitch for RP. Mass is our liberal counterpart (all theri house and sen's, gov= one party) & here's 0bie riding into town. Funny stuff from my angle.

[bigmack]

It hangs, Tuesday, on who is concerned enough, and smart enough, to go vote. I hold small hope that dems will be beat, but I have some hope that the horrors of their failed health care will be stronger than their inherent ignorance. Mass. is generally a disgrace of a state. The people there are pretty hapless. I will be surprised if enough of them them can stand up and pretend they are once again Amercians.
Much is made of the 3 to 1 outnumbering of Dems to Reps. but Independents outnumber Dems and I believe I read somewhere that Indies polled are leaning
2-1 Brownie.

[GaryG]

Having the POS/POTUS campaigning for her could be what puts Brown over the top. Just look at the visits to CT and VA. I wonder if he gave his chittlin speech like in VA, the one about waking up cousin Pookey to make sure he votes. She had to beg him to come in....this is really getting good.

[bigmack]

He rolls in using a number of catchy little phrases about Brown driving a truck (as a recent trucker, I object) but then goes off on a jag about blaming the current administration for an economic downturn being 'the oldest trick in the book'

Did he pay attention to the accusations he used in the campaign to get him in the crib he's housed?

[JustRalph]

It's already a win for Brown.............. this thread proves........

no matter what happens in the election

Now on to California............. :lol: :bang:

[bigmack]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1_19_10_12_15_46.png

I wonder if eastie is in this video?

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/18/big-labor-in-massachusetts-unhappy-days-are-here-again/#more-61666

[andymays]

Coakley adviser memo: D.C. Dems 'failed' Coakley

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Coakley_adviser_memo_DC_Dems_faled_Coakley.html?sh owall

Excerpt:

The Coakley campaign is bridling at finger-pointing from the White House and Washington Democrats, and outside adviser to the campaign has provided to POLITICO a memo aimed at rebutting the charge that Coakley failed, and making the case that national Democrats failed her.

The adviser, who made the case to my colleague Jonathan Martin on the condition of anonymity in response, he said, to "the current leaking coming out of the White House and the DNC that is chalking all of this up to a “bad candidate”.

The adviser, who cited internal polling numbers to make the case, emails that, "There’s more to the story than that. If Martha is guilty of taking the race for granted, so is the White House, and the DNC."

[andymays]

Bookie pays off early, predicts Brown win - Washington Times

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/19/bookie-pays-off-early-predicts-brown-win/

Excerpt:

"Enough is enough. It seems that Senator Brown just has to get out of bed tomorrow to win convincingly. As far as we're concerned, this race is well and truly over," said Paddy Power, Ireland's largest bookmaker, 24 hours before the actual election.

Before shutting down the betting, Mr. Brown had gone from 5-4 odds to 1-5 (meaning if a bettor put down $5, they only stood to make $1 if Mr. Brown wins). The odds against his opponent — Democrat Martha Coakley, the state's attorney general — soared, from 4-7 to win to 3-1 to lose.

[GaryG]

This election is not about Brown. It is a repudiation of the socialist agenda of the administration. Surprise! Americans are not as dumb as the Unholy Trinity thought they were. Even in a true blue state like Mass. The Dead Kennedys are all spinning in their respective graves.

[rastajenk]

Did Bush campaign right after Katrina??? No, but it was an odd-numbered year without any significant special elections. Damn, that Bush was lucky. :cool:

[bigmack]

Did Bush campaign right after Katrina??? No, but it was an odd-numbered year without any significant special elections. Damn, that Bush was lucky. :cool:
:lol: :lol:

You're far less clever than you think

[witchdoctor]

This election is not about Brown. It is a repudiation of the socialist agenda of the administration. Surprise! Americans are not as dumb as the Unholy Trinity thought they were. Even in a true blue state like Mass. The Dead Kennedys are all spinning in their respective graves.


Are you sure they are not out there voting several times today.

[Steve 'StatMan']

This election is not about Brown. It is a repudiation of the socialist agenda of the administration. Surprise! Americans are not as dumb as the Unholy Trinity thought they were. Even in a true blue state like Mass. The Dead Kennedys are all spinning in their respective graves.

Oh! Think of all the wasted wind power!

Makes one wonder if and when the people of Mass. stopped really agreeing with Kennedy and his ideology. Was it a while ago, or only after the candidate threw all his support to, Obama, won the presidency, the congress majority was in their favor, and the congress & president stated trying to do all the things Kennedy and others had talked about - and once the enomous weight and gravity, and the basic economics of everything started becoming obvious, they realized that it was a major distaster in the making.

Besides, the people of Mass. have their own mandated health care program. Don't know that it works well there, but it is hard enough to make it work at the mandated state level, let alone a mandated national level.

Wonder too, was Kennedy winning because he was a Kennedy, not because everyone agreed with him? Was he winning because no one credible figured they could beat a Kennedy? Not saying he wasn't a great guy, but it does make one wonder about all the lavish talk and praise over the last couple years if not dozen or even decades of years.

[fast4522]

I really think giving credit where it is do or perhaps to agree to disagree, I do not believe John F. Kennedy was a socialist.
Just listen to this wise man that was ahead of his time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVwGIeD9i3I&feature=related