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CBedo
01-09-2010, 07:25 PM
I have only watched a couple Bengals games this year not including this playoff game, so maybe I just caught his worst games, but he has looked well below average to me. His receivers haven't helped him by dropping some balls, but many of them were because the ball was in such a bad spot. His accuracy has been extremely lacking, and not only has he been very inaccurate, but seems to have missed some reads as well.

Valuist
01-09-2010, 09:17 PM
Darrell Revis is a monster. The best cover corner in the league, no question.

Charles Woodson will get Defensive Player of the Year because he makes more big plays....but NOBODY, including Woodson, Bailey or the goofy named guy on Oakland, can lock down on a receiver like Revis.

Palmer's awful numbers were not surprising compared to how other QB's have fared against that pass defense.

bisket
01-10-2010, 12:04 AM
he's a pretty boy from california. what do you expect. :ThmbDown:

Rookies
01-10-2010, 12:20 AM
Some horribly thrown balls today... I'm HAPPY to say ! :D

DanG
01-10-2010, 07:22 AM
A different player pre and post wrecked knee. He was on his way to being a great QB before the injury imo.

Rhetorical btw; is there a better way to improve your pass rush then to eliminate ˝ the field? Darrelle Revis is on his way to a hall of fame career…what a player.

ElKabong
01-10-2010, 11:26 AM
A different player pre and post wrecked knee. He was on his way to being a great QB before the injury imo.

Rhetorical btw; is there a better way to improve your pass rush then to eliminate ˝ the field? Darrelle Revis is on his way to a hall of fame career…what a player.

Namath comes to mind. After his 2nd knee injury his accuracy was never the same. "Your accuracy comes from footwork", heard it a 1000 times.

PhantomOnTour
01-10-2010, 11:36 AM
In laymans terms he a chokin wussy. Always was. Surgery didnt take away his toughness, he never had it.

PhantomOnTour
01-10-2010, 11:52 AM
Ya see, there are some QBs who thrive between Sept and Thanksgiving. When the weather changes so does their game. Ya listening McNabb? Palmer?

A few more are on my list as i have suspicions regarding their toughness/manhood/clutch QBing:

First and foremost is Drew Brees-really pretty but bad after Thanksgiving
The almighty Brett Favre-this is an age thing only
Tony (Yoko) Romo-nice job last night, but the jurys still out dude
Palmer and McNabb ofcourse.

Those not on the list:
Roethlisberger
Brady
Phil Rivers

And a special limbo list reserved for one special guy whom I'm not sure is a down and dirty FOOTBALL player:
Peyton Manning-plays indoors and his numbers are great but I would rather take the 3 from the above list in a sub 30 degree game. This is sure to upset some as PeyPey is the darling of all darlings, but he aint my boy in an alley fight--which is what playoff games so often become.

DanG
01-10-2010, 01:50 PM
In laymans terms he a chokin wussy. Always was. Surgery didnt take away his toughness, he never had it.
There are degrees of toughness, but there are no “wussy’s” playing QB in the NFL. Most punters can beat up half the country.

PhantomOnTour
01-10-2010, 02:32 PM
There are degrees of toughness, but there are no “wussy’s” playing QB in the NFL. Most punters can beat up half the country.
I hear ya. I meant it in comparative terms, not as though I could kick his ass. But a guy with his size (6'5" or something and around 225lbs) should be a lil more rugged.

Speaking of tough kickers, who did Shayne Graham(Cincy kicker) think he was by wearing short sleeves? Linemen wear that gear in 11 degree weather, not kickers. Know your role.

CBedo
01-10-2010, 04:03 PM
A different player pre and post wrecked knee. He was on his way to being a great QB before the injury imo.This was my assumption, but I wanted to see if others agreed. There's a reason that the Bengals haven't had success with their "high power" passing offense since he hurt his knee. Their running game carried them this year.

mountainman
01-10-2010, 04:30 PM
There are degrees of toughness, but there are no “wussy’s” playing QB in the NFL. Most punters can beat up half the country.

Sharp post. Qb may be the only position in sports that requires a player to absorb brutal hits with no chance to retaliate. In fact, a Qb has to focus downfield while taking the punishment. How many strikes could a pitcher throw with the other team's first base coach rushing at him from the blind side? NFL Qbs are the toughest guys in sports. Bar none.

Valuist
01-10-2010, 06:19 PM
PHYSICALLY, they can't retaliate. But they can get revenge by throwing a touchdown pass.

But lets not compare a pitcher to a QB. A pitcher isn't completely clear from possible injury. You've got guys like Pujols and A-Rod standing 60 feet away with a bat and a vicious line drive can do plenty of damage, especially to somebody with no equipment.

bisket
01-10-2010, 06:57 PM
PHYSICALLY, they can't retaliate. But they can get revenge by throwing a touchdown pass.

But lets not compare a pitcher to a QB. A pitcher isn't completely clear from possible injury. You've got guys like Pujols and A-Rod standing 60 feet away with a bat and a vicious line drive can do plenty of damage, especially to somebody with no equipment.
i watched a pitcher get hit viciously with a line drive twice. i was at the park both times oriole pitchers got hit with vicious line drives. mike mussina by sandy alomar, but the really bad one was dave mcnally. i was very young, but i remember that. i can't remember who hit him, but they say mcnally was never the same after that.

mountainman
01-10-2010, 08:04 PM
PHYSICALLY, they can't retaliate. But they can get revenge by throwing a touchdown pass.

But lets not compare a pitcher to a QB. A pitcher isn't completely clear from possible injury. You've got guys like Pujols and A-Rod standing 60 feet away with a bat and a vicious line drive can do plenty of damage, especially to somebody with no equipment.

You're equating the risk of occasionally facing a line drive with that of 300 lb monsters bull- rushing from the blind side 80 or 90 times each week? You've got to be joking. The relevant similarity between the two positions is that both require accurate throwing. And it's hard to retaliate with a seperated shoulder or concussion. When was the last time a QB (besides Burt Reynolds or Adam Sandler) caused injury to a defensive end?