Ten cent super at Hollywood today pays 65 cents.

[Stillriledup]

You pick em 1-2-3-4 and make a 55 cent profit on your dime. Not bad!

[CBedo]

You pick em 1-2-3-4 and make a 55 cent profit on your dime. Not bad!Nice four horse field. I love how the track looks out for us. They won't allow you to bet to show on the race (they might lose money!?), but will allow you to bet the trifecta and the super, so they can suck out there 20.68% rake. Effin ridiculous.

[AlBundy33]

Now that is pathetic. I remember a four-horse field at Cal-Expo where the tri paid almost $81 for a buck. Guess what two drivers ran third and fourth. :D

But having super betting with a four-horse field is just absurd.

[tzipi]

It is SO bad what they do to the customers.

[Speed Figure]

It is SO bad what they do to the customers.
When you really think about it, it's not bad at all. Whatever they do we keep coming back, that's why things won't change.

[toussaud]

lmao who in the heck plays a 4 horse field superfecta? seriously?

I don't blame hollywood park.

we are like the field of dreams. if you build it we will come.

they could probobly replace the horses with slugs, give them saddleclothes and bettors would not know the difference.

[BillW]

When you really think about it, it's not bad at all. Whatever they do we keep coming back, that's why things won't change.

You got it! - $30,000 in the pool - sometime they pay attention to what the customer wants :rolleyes:

[Stillriledup]

lmao who in the heck plays a 4 horse field superfecta? seriously?

I don't blame hollywood park.

we are like the field of dreams. if you build it we will come.

they could probobly replace the horses with slugs, give them saddleclothes and bettors would not know the difference.

The bettors WOULD know the difference....in their pockets. With horses, the bettors have to subsidize the owners with high takeout rates.....with slugs, well, how much would a slug owner and trainer's overhead be? They can run races with a very small takeout.

[DarrenClarke]

When you really think about it, it's not bad at all. Whatever they do we keep coming back, that's why things won't change.


Actually, many people aren't coming back and things are changing. In a recent interview Andrew Beyer was quoted as saying "I hope the game hangs on until I die". This interview was on the internet the week of the Breeders Cup, so it received ZERO attention.

[toussaud]

the fact that there was 30 thousand dollars in a 4 horse superfecta pool speaks for itself.

I do not blame hollywood park one bit.

I"m waiting on the day we get a superfecta pool on a 3 horse field. it's coming.

[Igeteven]

You pick em 1-2-3-4 and make a 55 cent profit on your dime. Not bad!


The pick six paid $80.00 , lowest one I have even seen.

[therussmeister]

The pick six paid $80.00 , lowest one I have even seen.

1986 Canterbury harness meet, pick six paid $20.00. People were heard to say, "I knew I should have put $100 on it." :D

[Zman179]

Honestly, what is the difference in a four horse field between a trifecta and a superfecta? None whatsoever. Yet the $1 tri paid $5.10 and the $1 super paid $6.50, and none of you noticed the increased value because you were all busy complaining. :bang:

[The Hawk]

Honestly, what is the difference in a four horse field between a trifecta and a superfecta? None whatsoever. Yet the $1 tri paid $5.10 and the $1 super paid $6.50, and none of you noticed the increased value because you were all busy complaining. :bang:

So that's value these days, huh?

[tzipi]

Honestly, what is the difference in a four horse field between a trifecta and a superfecta? None whatsoever. Yet the $1 tri paid $5.10 and the $1 super paid $6.50, and none of you noticed the increased value because you were all busy complaining. :bang:

Boxing three horses for trip or super,loses you money. Even a key could cost me $3 or $4 using horses. I have to call the trip and super straight to make $4 or $5. I agree,where's the value??

[Zman179]

Boxing three horses for trip or super,loses you money. Even a key could cost me $3 or $4 using horses. I have to call the trip and super straight to make $4 or $5. I agree,where's the value??

One would have to be the ultimate schmuck to box anything in a four horse field. You have to punch out one cold number in order to make a decent profit.

So that's value these days, huh?

Well it's not something that's gonna get me all excited, but it is what it is.

[Stillriledup]

Free means Free. :lol:

[Zman179]

Free means Free. :lol:

Now free, THAT'S the ultimate value. :lol:

[Stillriledup]

Now free, THAT'S the ultimate value. :lol:


I think i'm going to get a yellow construction hat and paint 'free means free' on it. Who's with me!!! :jump:

[tzipi]

One would have to be the ultimate schmuck to box anything in a four horse field. You have to punch out one cold number in order to make a decent profit.



Well it's not something that's gonna get me all excited, but it is what it is.

That's my point! What's the point of betting that? Your "value" is betting a straight $1 trip and making $3 for it or betting $1 straight super and making $4?? That is horrible value for calling an exotic,straight. Again,where's the value people missed out on by complaing? :D

[Zman179]

That's my point! What's the point of betting that? Your "value" is betting a straight $1 trip and making $3 for it or betting $1 straight super and making $4?? That is horrible value for calling an exotic,straight. Again,where's the value?

Listen, you're not going to get an IRS ticket for betting on a four horse field. You know very well that your return is going to be limited when you bet on it, so you might as well get as much as you possibly can out of it. The tri for $2 paid $10.20, the $2 super paid $13 for absolutely no extra risk. If you punched a $20 straight ticket, the balance is $28.
This won't happen all the time (the super could have paid less than the tri), but anytime you can get anything extra, enjoy it.

Personally I wouldn't touch a four horse field, but some people like chalk numbers.

[tzipi]

Listen, you're not going to get an IRS ticket for betting on a four horse field. You know very well that your return is going to be limited when you bet on it, so you might as well get as much as you possibly can out of it. The tri for $2 paid $10.20, the $2 super paid $13 for absolutely no extra risk. If you punched a $20 straight ticket, the balance is $28.
This won't happen all the time (the super could have paid less than the tri), but anytime you can get anything extra, enjoy it.

Personally I wouldn't touch a four horse field, but some people like chalk numbers.

Hey if somebody wants to punch straight $20 or $40 trip or supers for few bucks return,then anyone can go right ahead,enjoy. Just not for me. I'm not risking heavy bets(triple and superfecta) that I have to call straight just to get the small return.

[JohnGalt1]

I don't play tris or supers unless there are at least 8 horses--unless I think a 10-1 or similar long shot will win.

BUT I don't blame tracks for offering tris and supers in 4-6 horse fields.

We DON'T have to play them!

I blame the players who can't wait for the next race, (or the next one).

I also don't blame casinos for offering 6/5 black jack.

I blame the players for playing, some believing 6/5 is better than 3/2 because 6 is bigger than 3 and 5 is bigger than 2. Not knowing the odds they are facing are three times worse.

[Zman179]

BUT I don't blame tracks for offering tris and supers in 4-6 horse fields.

We DON'T have to play them!

Exactly, offering choices is a good thing. It's up to the bettor whether or not to take advantage of those choices.

[rokitman]

TVG needs to start handling CA racing like the C class racing that, for the most part, it is. They really need to stop missing a live 10 horse race at Hawthorne to show a whogivesashit post parade at Hollywood. It's absurd.

[johnhannibalsmith]

TVG needs to start handling CA racing like the C class racing that, for the most part, it is. They really need to stop missing a live 10 horse race at Hawthorne to show a whogivesashit post parade at Hollywood. It's absurd.

It certainly does certainly give certain on-air personalities certainly ample time to certainly remind us how certainly certain I am certain you are certainly on to something... :ThmbUp: