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tzipi
11-22-2009, 11:22 PM
It's shaping up better than the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile. Likely so far you have Met Mile winner Bribon,Vosburgh winner Kodiak Cowboy,Tom Fool winner Munnings,the DeFrancis Dash winner Vineyard Haven and also Driven by Success and Pyro too.
As Jerry Bossert said in the Daily News today,Breeders cup winner Furthest Land would be 15-1 in this heat. Anyway,this should be a great day for Aqueduct!

tzipi
11-22-2009, 11:58 PM
and obviously let's not forget QUAAALLITTYY ROAD! :)

samyn on the green
11-23-2009, 12:00 AM
Bossert got this right, this race will be much better than the BC dirt mile.

This is a tough field and you have ot have a good finish to win this race. Quality Road is all speed and has little to no shot against these. I will give you 10-1 on him if you want it. and obviously let's not forget QUAAALLITTYY ROAD! :)

tzipi
11-23-2009, 12:00 AM
Bossert got this right, this race will be much better than the BC dirt mile. Quality Road has little to no shot. I will give you 10-1 on him if you want it.

I will DEF take 10-1!

samyn on the green
11-23-2009, 12:01 AM
What do you think the parimutuel price will be? I will DEF take 10-1!

tzipi
11-23-2009, 12:04 AM
What do you think the parimutuel price will be?

Will not be 10-1 and if it's even remotely close to that I will hit him hard. :) I'm going to guess he'll go off at 3-1 or 4-1. It's such a deep field! What a race like this,should be.

samyn on the green
11-23-2009, 12:10 AM
I think 4-1 is about right. My gut says he will not even be in the race so it is a moot point. Will not be 10-1 and if it's even remotely close to that I will hit him hard. :) I'm going to guess he'll go off at 3-1 or 4-1. It's such a deep field! What a race like this,should be.

bisket
11-23-2009, 01:39 PM
kodiak may be a throwout for me. i've gotta look back to the beginning of last year. did assmussen have kodiak last year, and then jones got him last summer? if i remember correctly after jones got a hold of him kodiak improved. i don't like assmussen with graded sprinters as much as routers. i'm posting this off the cuff, but i may toss kodiak with the trainer change. i'll have to wait for the pps, and then look back to last year at some of my notes.

bisket
11-23-2009, 01:40 PM
this may end up being a good spot for pyro. :ThmbUp:

Spalding No!
11-23-2009, 01:44 PM
As Jerry Bossert said in the Daily News today,Breeders cup winner Furthest Land would be 15-1 in this heat. Anyway,this should be a great day for Aqueduct!

But wasn't Furthest Land 20-1 in the BC Dirt Mile?

MickJ26
11-23-2009, 02:03 PM
Throw in the return of Stardom Bound and that makes for a very interesting day.
Plus, Mike E. Smith is returning to his old stomping grounds.

hazzardm
11-23-2009, 02:46 PM
Outstanding lineup. Vinyard Haven is legitimate G1 horse.

toussaud
11-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Hell of a race. I have no clue.

tzipi
11-23-2009, 06:03 PM
But wasn't Furthest Land 20-1 in the BC Dirt Mile?


He won the B.C. dirt Mile and he would be 15-1 in this heat.

Always good when these kind of races are on actual dirt. You get these kind of fields.

tribecaagent
11-23-2009, 08:32 PM
this may end up being a good spot for pyro. :ThmbUp:

I've never been a fan of his but I love his entrymate Vineyard Haven....don't know what kinda price they'll be but I'll sign for 4-1 right now.

Cratos
11-23-2009, 10:22 PM
and obviously let's not forget QUAAALLITTYY ROAD! :)

If Quality Road is entered and doesn’t throw a “hissy fit” I believe he will be force to be reckoned with from gate to wire

hazzardm
11-25-2009, 04:18 PM
Quality Road no mas...

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/54138/quality-road-to-skip-cigar-mile-off-to-fla

joanied
11-25-2009, 05:00 PM
Throw in the return of Stardom Bound and that makes for a very interesting day.
Plus, Mike E. Smith is returning to his old stomping grounds.

No time to look for it...please, what race is Stardom Bound going in?? Is he aboard Stardom Bound?
Thank you:)

FenceBored
11-25-2009, 05:20 PM
No time to look for it...please, what race is Stardom Bound going in?? Is he aboard Stardom Bound?
Thank you:)

She's nominated for the Gazelle on Saturday.

WinterTriangle
11-25-2009, 06:13 PM
Quality Road no mas...

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/54138/quality-road-to-skip-cigar-mile-off-to-fla

Surprise, suprise. :rolleyes: :bang:




"It’s wait until next year for Quality Road (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/thoroughbred/quality-road/2006?source=BHonline), who will pass on the Nov. 28 Hill 'n' Dale Cigar Mile (gr. I) and instead will point for a 4-year-old campaign..."

bisket
11-26-2009, 10:50 AM
appears they decided on a different 1 mile race.

joanied
11-26-2009, 11:40 AM
She's nominated for the Gazelle on Saturday.

Thanks:)

joanied
11-26-2009, 11:43 AM
Surprise, suprise. :rolleyes: :bang:




"It’s wait until next year for Quality Road (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/thoroughbred/quality-road/2006?source=BHonline), who will pass on the Nov. 28 Hill 'n' Dale Cigar Mile (gr. I) and instead will point for a 4-year-old campaign..."

I beleive that is a wise decision...it's best for the horse...some down time will do him a world of good....and he has so much talent, he'll be a force to reckon with as a 4 yr. old.
Me thinks next year is lookin' pretty good if all that are coming back stay healthy & sound!

tzipi
11-26-2009, 01:11 PM
Is Munnings out too?

miesque
11-26-2009, 01:13 PM
Is Munnings out too?

Yes, he is, entries are out and its a field of 6 with one coupled entry of Vineyard Haven and Pyro for a total of 5 betting entries.


Aqueduct - November 28, 2009
http://www.equibase.com/images/line.gif Race 9 - 3:38 PM
http://www.equibase.com/images/line.gif STAKES
Hill N' Dale Cigar Mile H. (Grade I)
http://www.equibase.com/images/line.gif Purse $300,000. A Handicap For Three Year Olds And Upward. No nomination fee. $3,000 to pass the entry box. All starters will receive a $1,500 rebate. The purse to be divided 60% to the winner, 20% to second, 10% to third, 5 to fourth, 3% to fifth and 2% divided equallyamong remaining finishers. Trophies will be presented to the winning owner, trainer and jockey. Closed Saturday, November 14, 2009 with 27 Nominations. One Mile.


1Driven by Success (NY) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7448514&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 4/GLR A Dominguez114B N Levine
2Kodiak Kowboy (KY) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7505245&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 4/CLS Bridgmohan120S M Asmussen
3Pyro (KY) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7403549&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 4/CL*R Migliore120S bin Suroor
4Bribon (FR) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7046393&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 6/GLR Maragh119R Ribaudo
5Vineyard Haven (FL) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7757517&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 3/CLA Garcia118S bin Suroor
6Vacation (KY) (http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqpHorseMPPByHorse.cfm?refno=7436756&sap=HPE&bt=TB) 4/CLJ R Velazquez114C R McGaughey III

Spalding No!
11-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Is there any front-running speed in that race?

Robert Fischer
11-26-2009, 02:04 PM
Is there any front-running speed in that race?
Driven by Success is pretty quick early at a mile if my memory serves me(a plate of turkey and stuffing).

joanied
11-27-2009, 04:27 PM
It's a shame a race like this hasn't got more entries...
Vineyard Haven
Pyro
Kodiak Kowboy

In the Gazell;
Stardom Bound (although she's giving a lot of weight, and she may get tired)
Unrivaled Belle (can't overlook Kent D & Mott)
Flashing

toussaud
11-27-2009, 04:50 PM
It's a shame a race like this hasn't got more entries...
Vineyard Haven
Pyro
Kodiak Kowboy

In the Gazell;
Stardom Bound (although she's giving a lot of weight, and she may get tired)
Unrivaled Belle (can't overlook Kent D & Mott)
Flashing


I think it's too close to the breeders cup. I think an extra week (or two) would do the race better.

midshipman, giraromo and regal ransom should all be in the cigar mile imho. just too close to the breeders cup

bisket
11-27-2009, 05:34 PM
http://www.drf.com/formulator-web/FreeRace.do?trackId=AQU&country=USA&raceDate=20091128&dayEvening=D&raceNumber=9#past-performance-race/9
i'm looking at a 10$ straight exacta
:4: bribon 1st
:1: & :1a: pyro and vineyard haven 2nd
maybe a win bet on bribon. small field i'll have to see the odds first.

tribecaagent
11-27-2009, 07:14 PM
I just can't see Vineyard Haven getting beat here.