My BC pace and speed figures

[cj]

JFTurf 95 84
JFillies 101 86
FMTurf 97 102
FMSprint 93 101
LadiesC 134 102

JuvTurf 76 81
TurfSpr 109 105
Sprint 103 102
Juvnle 89 86
Mile 127 109
DrtMile 107 99
Turf 119 106
Classic 121 109

First number is race pace, second number is winning speed figure. All are original Beyer scale.

[Greyfox]

Thank you.

As this was on Proride, and Beyer now uses some type of modified scale for poly, are these figures lower or higher than what he will report? I presume they will be different.

[cj]

I would assume his are higher, but I really don't know.

As I had suspected, most races (and all of the biggest ones) had faster paces than speed figures. It almost always happens when the big money is on the line, even on synthetics.

[Greyfox]

Yes. "Jockey panic" on a speed tiring track will do that.

[Greyfox]

JFTurf 95 84
JFillies 101 86
FMTurf 97 102
FMSprint 93 101
LadiesC 134 102

JuvTurf 76 81
TurfSpr 109 105
Sprint 103 102
Juvnle 89 86
Mile 127 109
DrtMile 107 99
Turf 119 106
Classic 121 109

First number is race pace, second number is winning speed figure. All are original Beyer scale.

What they've posted in the DRF for final Beyers
Marathon 98
Juv filturf 84
Juv fillies 88
F&M turf 102
F&M sprt 103
Ladies cl 107
Juven turf 85
Turf Sprint106
Sprint 106
Juv 92
Mile 109
Dirt Mile 105
Turf 106
Classic 112

All the best. And thank you again.

P.S. Is there any chance that you would consider posting "the most efficient" horse in each race for pace and final Beyer?

[maxwell]

I find it interesting that some of CJ's figs are exactly what Beyer came up with while some are off as much as 6 points. I didn't factor in the distance, however. Only 5 of 14 really jump off the page as I see it.

I wonder if our allegiance or distain for a particular speed figure camp has something to do with success or failure? If a neophyte hung in there with Beyer and over time became a winning player, it stands to reason that player would think highly of Beyer's method.

I don't think Beyer can be knocked for trying to improve his figures. He's had to rework both his turf and synthetic numbers. He just rolls up his sleeves and tries to figure out what went wrong.

I don't know what would make Brisnet or CJ's numbers better than Beyer's; it's all too exhausting for me. :)

[schweitz]

I wonder if our allegiance or distain for a particular speed figure camp has something to do with success or failure?

I know that is how it works for me. I'm always hearing that bris figures are crap and I can tell you that I'm not about to change to any other.