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RichieP
11-08-2009, 08:52 AM
I need help.

Here are the conditions for todays 9th at Churchill:
"For 3 year olds and upward which have never won $7,500 twice other than maiden, claiming or starter or which have never won 3 races"

My question:
What will these race conditions look like in the Form when the race shows up in the pps having already run??

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Tom
11-08-2009, 09:57 AM
I would say Alw nw2x
bettheoverlay
11-08-2009, 10:13 AM
If there is a dollar value involved in the conditions I believe they use NW$y. You have to either know the purse values involved at a track, or look back at the charts to see if the race was a nw1 nw2 or nw3.
stu
11-08-2009, 12:00 PM
I believe they use NW$y.

The 'y' would not be listed as there is no time restriction in the conditions of the race.
bettheoverlay
11-08-2009, 12:30 PM
The 'y' would not be listed as there is no time restriction in the conditions of the race.

I agree, but I believe that is what they are doing at least in Bris PPs whenever an allowance or optional claimer has a condition of "never won $value once, twice etc". I have no idea what the y is supposed to stand for.
Tom
11-08-2009, 02:54 PM
It's not an optional claimer - it is an allowance race. The use the low purse to ensure no horse has won an allowance of any concern.
Show Me the Wire
11-08-2009, 03:28 PM
Tom's response Alw NW2X is correct.
bettheoverlay
11-08-2009, 04:20 PM
In the 9th race at Churchill today cited in Richie's original example the #2 horse Bearpath's last race at KEE4th Oct11 is designated as
ALW54000n$y in the Bris PPs. Looking up the PPs for that Oct11 race the race conditions are given as FOR 3YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE NEVER WON $7500 TWICE OTHER THAN MAIDEN CLAIMING OR STARTER OR WHICH HAVE NEVER WON THREE RACES.

They use the same "n$y" in the PPs whether the conditions state "won $7500 twice,once or three times." If there is no "won $7500" involved in the conditions they will use nx1, nx2, nx3. The Bris PPs are full of n$y class designations.
Tom
11-08-2009, 06:26 PM
My experience is that I never use BRIS conditions, running styles, speed points.........too loosey goosey at BRIS for me. Accuracy is not their forte.
The nw$y would incicate a classified allowance race to me, not an "other than" which it is.