PDA

View Full Version : Modern Film Is Dead


bigmack
10-08-2009, 10:38 PM
- We've run out of 'wow' on special effects. (As if I care)

- Story lines ooze with familiarity.

Has there been or will there be a movie worth watching in the last year or upcoming?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/10_8_09_19_35_35.png

ArlJim78
10-08-2009, 11:41 PM
I was just talking about this at work with some guys. I contend that pop culture has kind of died off. movies, music? it's crap now compared to what we had 20, 30, 40 years ago.

I still find an occaisonal good flick, but they're off the beaten path. Nothing from the mainstream is watchable anymore.

Tom
10-08-2009, 11:59 PM
I watched a movie about Jack the Ripper on Turner Classics the other night.
They don't make movies like they used to.
Not on scene of an actual attack, but it was gripping!
They relied on acting and scripts, not special effects.

JustRalph
10-09-2009, 08:36 AM
Have you seen the trailers for " 2012"

what a piece of monstrousness cgi crap..........

They don't make movies anymore. They make special effects with 10 minutes of dialog attached


I miss actors like Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart.........Henry Fonda..........nobody gets even close to them anymore..........

DJofSD
10-09-2009, 09:15 AM
You've read the book and loved it. Now, see the movies. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktD2D8-TqqU)

ArlJim78
10-09-2009, 09:17 AM
gimme someone like Gene Hackman, he would always bring something to the picture.

GaryG
10-09-2009, 10:08 AM
Two words:

Psycho
Deliverance

headhawg
10-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Two words:

Psycho
DeliverancePutting those together just begs the question of who has the prettier mouth -- Janet Leigh or Jon Voight?

cj's dad
10-09-2009, 10:25 AM
Two words:

Psycho
Deliverance

North By Northwest & To Kill A Mockingbird

Java Gold@TFT
10-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Two words:

Psycho
Deliverance
Watched Psycho on TMC last month and then found it at the local theater last week. It was the original on the BIG screen. Monster vision of Janet Leigh with fresh popcorn. I can't wait until they get the original Godfather or Casablanca. Next week is Rocky Horror which I love but would never put in any kind of calssic movie thread. I don't think I have seen anything I would consider classic in a real movie theater since the 70's. Jaws, The Exorcist, The Sting, Rosemary's Baby, Midnight Cowboy, Butch and Sundance, and even getting into the 80's Close Encounters. I can't think of one movie in the last 20 years that would fit in to the classic category.

Java Gold@TFT
10-09-2009, 11:26 AM
North By Northwest & To Kill A Mockingbird
Loved the book and loved the movie. My favorite two band names that are obscure literature references are "The Boo Radleys" and "Veruka Salt". Boo was from Harper's "To Kill A Mockingbird" and Veruka was the overprivilged snob from Willy Wonka. Just great obscure references.

Pell Mell
10-09-2009, 11:38 AM
Last great one I saw was The Unforgiven.

ezrabrooks
10-09-2009, 11:42 AM
Hey Mac.. Have you seen The Girlfriend Experience? If so,could you tell what the heck it was about?

Ez

46zilzal
10-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Compare almost ANY film today to the character and dialogue driven films of yesteryear and there is no comparison.

I recently had a long discussion about this with my good friend Bob who is currently on 24 with Kiefer Sutherland. I am paraphrasing here, but getting the most of it: "If a character does not engender some sympathetic attachment to the audience, then that character has missed his calling at acting. If I as a fan, don't care what happens to this character, there is soemthing amiss in that character's part, acting or representation. Think of Stallone in Rocky...would that movie have half the impact if no one cared about how he came out of his predicament? Empathy takes time to create through comparison to people's own life experiences. Without it, the intent of the author is lost."

How does one relate to explosions or people flying through the air in many of hese ridiculous Kung Fu type flicks?

hazzardm
10-09-2009, 12:32 PM
gimme someone like Gene Hackman, he would always bring something to the picture.

Starring a young Kevin Costner and Gene Hackman, the 1987 "No Way Out" is a great one !

GaryG
10-09-2009, 12:51 PM
High Plains Drifter
Dirty Harry
Tombstone - Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday was as good as it gets. A real huckleberry of a movie.

46zilzal
10-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Starring a young Kevin Costner and Gene Hackman, the 1987 "No Way Out" is a great one !
That is a good move as the ending is not to be anticipated at all. Plot twists like Two Days in the Valley, another that has twists and turns.

The Hunt for Red October keeps one guessing.
ADHD audiences would not be able to even remember the characters let alone figure out their interactions.

bigmack
10-09-2009, 01:26 PM
Hey Mac.. Have you seen The Girlfriend Experience? If so,could you tell what the heck it was about?
While a fan of Soderbergh, I haven't seen this offering. Is there a possibility of it being more confusing than his, Bubble?

http://www.iproceed.com/images/bubble-movie-poster.jpg

Tom
10-09-2009, 02:43 PM
They are making a sequel to Showgirls, the worst movie ever made!

ezrabrooks
10-09-2009, 03:40 PM
While a fan of Soderbergh, I haven't seen this offering. Is there a possibility of it being more confusing than his, Bubble?

http://www.iproceed.com/images/bubble-movie-poster.jpg


Yes...I think I followed Bubbles..but, not sure if I got the ending. I like Soderbergh's low budget flix (at least I think I do). I watched TGE twice, once to check out the porn star..and the second time to try to follow the movie.

Ez

Black Ruby
10-09-2009, 04:10 PM
No Country for Old Men is one of my favorite recent movies, but I like most of the Coen Brothers stuff. Fargo, Burn After Reading, Raising Arizona, etc.

BlueShoe
10-09-2009, 04:31 PM
In todays films the real stars are the artists,model makers,computer programmers,and special effects people.Been scratching my head trying to recall a film made since the 70's that I consider great or classic,and so far have not come up with one.When did you say the next showing of Casablanca is?

46zilzal
10-09-2009, 04:42 PM
In today's films the real stars are the artists,model makers,computer programmers,and special effects people.Been scratching my head trying to recall a film made since the 70's that I consider great or classic,and so far have not come up with one.When did you say the next showing of Casablanca is?
Shindler's List has to be considered a classic.

Next time you watch Casablanca note the different size of epilletts Strasser is wearing and in the scene where Bogart gets the message near the train from Bergman and it is raining cats and dogs, his piano player reminds him that they both have to leave. In the next scene they jump on the train completely dry.

ezrabrooks
10-09-2009, 05:08 PM
No Country for Old Men is one of my favorite recent movies, but I like most of the Coen Brothers stuff. Fargo, Burn After Reading, Raising Arizona, etc.

Big Coen Brothers fan...Their latest (A Serious Man) should be coming out any time.. As CJ quotes..."That rug really tied the room together"..

Ez

BlueShoe
10-09-2009, 05:27 PM
Next time you watch Casablanca note the different size of epilletts Strasser is wearing and in the scene where Bogart gets the message near the train from Bergman and it is raining cats and dogs, his piano player reminds him that they both have to leave. In the next scene they jump on the train completely dry.
On the Imdb website there is a page for almost every film called goofs.Can be fun looking at stuff like the above.Even the great films are often loaded with errors of some sort.Yours truly actually spotted a goof in a 53 year old film that is considered a classic that was not listed among the goofs,emailed it in,and Imdb accepted it and added it to the goof list.Unless the goofs are really glaring,however,they do not diminish the overall quality of the film.

Black Ruby
10-09-2009, 05:29 PM
A serious man is out now. I just checked a site, with 580 ratings it was getting 8.6 stars out of a possible 10.

Lebowski is one of my all time favs. Javier Bardem is the consummate badass in No Country. Burn After Reading was a really good dark comedy.

46zilzal
10-09-2009, 05:59 PM
On the Imdb website there is a page for almost every film called goofs.Can be fun looking at stuff like the above.Even the great films are often loaded with errors of some sort.Yours truly actually spotted a goof in a 53 year old film that is considered a classic that was not listed among the goofs,emailed it in,and Imdb accepted it and added it to the goof list.Unless the goofs are really glaring,however,they do not diminish the overall quality of the film.
They got by before since the audience had no capability to review movies over and over. Costner's movies are full of them: variable size of liver he bites on a buffalo hunt. Clocks are a great source, i.e. Major League, the clock in the stadium NEVER moves during several scenes at the ball park.

Bring Up Baby Cary Grant runs through a room repeatedly and a ship in a bottle changes North South polarity repeatedly.

Microphone booms and their shadows are a common problem.

Hair: in Legends of the Fall, Brad Pitt is talking to his brother's wife after she marries the older brother who is now a politician, and each time the camera goes back to him, his hair is different....Often seen in MGM movies of the 30's 40's.

Then there are the more subtle ones that show technological developments that were not there at that time, or expressions as in an old Monogram western I watched and the lead character told his protagonist; "Don't bull doze me with that stuff."

Movies are so dispersed and then compartmentalized that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

ezrabrooks
10-09-2009, 06:07 PM
A serious man is out now. I just checked a site, with 580 ratings it was getting 8.6 stars out of a possible 10.

Lebowski is one of my all time favs. Javier Bardem is the consummate badass in No Country. Burn After Reading was a really good dark comedy.

Serious Man must be in limited release..as it hasn't made it to the sticks yet.. Burn After Reading? One of the Coens best...I don't think most people got it....that none of the characters knew what was going on..

Ez

ezrabrooks
10-09-2009, 06:12 PM
High Plains Drifter
Dirty Harry
Tombstone - Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday was as good as it gets. A real huckleberry of a movie.

The two Wyatt Earp movies that came out about the same time (Costner and Russell)...both had pretty good Doc Hollidays...Kilmer and Quaid..

Ez

bigmack
10-09-2009, 06:33 PM
Serious Man must be in limited release..as it hasn't made it to the sticks yet.. Burn After Reading? One of the Coens best...I don't think most people got it....that none of the characters knew what was going on..

tcUTv3LH3ss

Buddy worked in a large Jewish run business in Chicago. Rabbi would come down daily and stick his nose in the conference room. "How's everybody doing? - Fine Rabbi, but busy"

Rabbi always said "It's good to be busy"

ArlJim78
10-09-2009, 07:18 PM
A serious man is out now. I just checked a site, with 580 ratings it was getting 8.6 stars out of a possible 10.

Lebowski is one of my all time favs. Javier Bardem is the consummate badass in No Country. Burn After Reading was a really good dark comedy.
The Coen Brothers are an exception. I absolutely love their movies.
Lebowski is a big fav along with many others like Millers Crossing, Fargo, No Country, O'Brother, etc, etc. I never get tired of watching them.