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cj's dad
10-02-2009, 09:15 AM
Yesterday morning om Mike and Mike, Greenie asked Tim Kirkjian if this years Yankee infield is the most powerful ever assembled.

Mark Texiera - Hits - 177 HR - 39 RBI - 121

Robinson Cano - Hits - 202 HR - 25 RBI - 85

Derek Jeter - Hits -210 HR - 18 RBI - 66

Alex Rodriguez - Hits - 124 HR - 28 RBI - 93

Totals - Hits - 713 HR - 110 RBI -365

Pretty tough to argue otherwise !

Valuist
10-02-2009, 10:49 AM
Those are strong. I'm curious to see how the Big Red Machine infield of Perez-Morgan-Concepcion-Rose matched up. Probably not as many HRs

cj's dad
10-02-2009, 11:39 AM
Those are strong. I'm curious to see how the Big Red Machine infield of Perez-Morgan-Concepcion-Rose matched up. Probably not as many HRs

That infield was in fact mentioned and they are close; Concepcion was the weak link, I believe.

BillW
10-02-2009, 11:42 AM
That infield was in fact mentioned and they are close; Concepcion was the weak link, I believe.

The '73 Braves are in the second tier too - 2 40 HR guys but the power was not as evenly distributed as the '09 Yanks.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1973.shtml

Quagmire
10-02-2009, 11:49 AM
This years Phils have a powerful infield as well...

Howard 43 HR 138 RBI
Utley 31 HR 93 RBI
Rollins 21 HR 77 RBI
Feliz 12 HR 82 RBI

Valuist
10-02-2009, 12:03 PM
I'm trying to remember the Texas infield from earlier in the decade. Anytime you can put 50 HRs at SS, you have a powerful infield. You had Palmeiro at 1B (or maybe more at DH). Blalock was there......Michael Young and his 200 hits. Who was the 2B?

BillW
10-02-2009, 12:12 PM
I'm trying to remember the Texas infield from earlier in the decade. Anytime you can put 50 HRs at SS, you have a powerful infield. You had Palmeiro at 1B (or maybe more at DH). Blalock was there......Michael Young and his 200 hits. Who was the 2B?

'01 or '02 ...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2001.shtml

The Sports Reference is your friend :) ...

http://www.sports-reference.com/

Quagmire
10-02-2009, 12:14 PM
THe '02 Rangers infield was good too.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2002.shtml

Valuist
10-02-2009, 12:29 PM
'01 or '02 ...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2001.shtml

The Sports Reference is your friend :) ...

http://www.sports-reference.com/

99 HRs out of 1B and SS between A-Rod and Palmeiro in 2001. Mike Lamb was the let down. Of course how many can be attributed to pharmaceuticals?

melman
10-02-2009, 12:30 PM
Why should total hits count as "powerful" that's bogus. I could see it if you counted up the doubles, triples, and home runs.

This years Phillies infield.

HR's 107 3 less than the "powerful of all time" Yanks


RBI's 390 25 MORE than the "powerful of all time" Yanks.

Yet another stupid ESPN ratings attempt. BTW I am not putting down the Yanks infield they are very good. This is yet another "fun with stats" joke, almost as bad as the QB rating for NFL Q'b's.

Valuist
10-02-2009, 12:31 PM
100 HRs for the two in 2002.....

Quagmire
10-02-2009, 12:34 PM
Yet another stupid ESPN ratings attempt.

ESPN will be unwatchable this weekend as they hype the Favre vs Packers angle.

Valuist
10-02-2009, 12:35 PM
Check this out....1st round of the 1991 MLB draft. 12 teams passed on Manny Ramirez and the top pick never even made the majors.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/index.cgi?draft_round=1&year_ID=1991&draft_type=junreg&query_type=year_round

Quagmire
10-02-2009, 12:37 PM
I remember when the Yanks drafted Taylor 1st overall. He was supposed to be the next Dwight Gooden. If I remember correctly he hurt his arm in an off the field incident.

cj's dad
10-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Why should total hits count as "powerful" that's bogus. I could see it if you counted up the doubles, triples, and home runs.

This years Phillies infield.

HR's 107 3 less than the "powerful of all time" Yanks


RBI's 390 25 MORE than the "powerful of all time" Yanks.

Yet another stupid ESPN ratings attempt. BTW I am not putting down the Yanks infield they are very good. This is yet another "fun with stats" joke, almost as bad as the QB rating for NFL Q'b's.

Yeah - you are correct - no manager would want an infield with 700+ hits (many that were doubles and triples) in a season - WTF was I thinking :faint:

melman
10-02-2009, 10:19 PM
The idea that total hits represent "powerful" is bogus. Pure and simple. Power numbers are extra base hits, slugging %. Suzulki is one of the best pure hitters I have ever seen in baseball yet no one would call him "powerful". I said in my post that I was not knocking the Yanks infield they are very good.

Valuist
10-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Why should total hits count as "powerful" that's bogus. I could see it if you counted up the doubles, triples, and home runs.

This years Phillies infield.

HR's 107 3 less than the "powerful of all time" Yanks


RBI's 390 25 MORE than the "powerful of all time" Yanks.

Yet another stupid ESPN ratings attempt. BTW I am not putting down the Yanks infield they are very good. This is yet another "fun with stats" joke, almost as bad as the QB rating for NFL Q'b's.

Its very "ESPN like" to rip on the QB rating. Its still the best overall measure of a QB's effectiveness. Passing yardage, without taking into account the number of attempts and ints, is the most overrated stat.

melman
10-03-2009, 05:39 AM
The "QB Rating" stat deserves to be ripped. It is nothing more than fun with numbers. Any method that has Kurt Warner as the best QB in NFL history is bogus. To make matters worse this "rating" method also says that Jeff Garcia is the 4th best QB all time in the NFL> and how about Trent Green as the 10th best all time. John Elway rated at number 39 behind Neil O'Donnell at 25th. This rating method for QB's is as useless as just looking at total passing yards.

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/stats/top20/passer_ratings.aspx#