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hattaynez
09-28-2009, 12:41 AM
I noticed that the payoff numbers in super tote are always integers. Does anybody in this forum know whether the true payoff is rounded or chopped off? for example, if the true payoff is $25.6, is it chopped off to $25 or rounded to $26?

thanks,

Hattaynez

my_nameaintearl
09-28-2009, 02:57 AM
i think it is truncated

bigbrown
09-28-2009, 03:22 PM
I noticed that the payoff numbers in super tote are always integers. Does anybody in this forum know whether the true payoff is rounded or chopped off? for example, if the true payoff is $25.6, is it chopped off to $25 or rounded to $26?

thanks,

Hattaynez

if your question refers to Bris Super Tote, I'd like to know the answer too.

hattaynez
09-29-2009, 01:41 PM
I am surprised that nobody in this forum seems know how the exacta payoff numbers are displayed in the bris super tote. please help if you know the answer.

Hattaynez

hattaynez
09-29-2009, 03:23 PM
I got the answer from brisnet and I'd like to share it with the forum - the exacta payoff numbers on supertote at mtp0 are all rounded to integers. for example, if the true payoff is $25.4, then the number displayed on supertote is $25. if the true payoff is $25.6, then the number displayed as $26.

Hattaynez

showbet
09-29-2009, 05:18 PM
I noticed that the payoff numbers in super tote are always integers. Does anybody in this forum know whether the true payoff is rounded or chopped off? for example, if the true payoff is $25.6, is it chopped off to $25 or rounded to $26?

thanks,

Hattaynez
Based on the three examples below, and assuming all tracks report exacta probables the same way, the exacta probable payoffs shown on SuperTote are rounded down, or "chopped off", as you put it. These probable payoffs are reported by the host tracks; Brisnet/SuperTote is not doing the rounding.

In the first example, race 3 today at Zia, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 9-1 exacta combination is $85. The actual payoff was $85.80.

In the second example, race 7 today at Suffolk, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 2-9 exacta combination is $50.00 The actual payoff was $50.60.

In the third example, race 10 today at Delaware, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 4-3 exacta combination is $22. The actual payoff was $22.60.

showbet
09-29-2009, 05:31 PM
if the true payoff is $25.6, then the number displayed as $26.

Hattaynez
That's not the way it's done at Zia, Suffolk, Delaware, Philadelphia or Monticello, at least for the races I looked at today. (I have examples from the last two tracks that I didn't post.) The probable payoffs were rounded down on SuperTote in each case I saw. Based on the five examples I have, a $25.60 actual exacta payoff would be shown as $25 on SuperTote, not $26.

showbet
09-29-2009, 05:34 PM
In the third example, race 10 today at Delaware...
That should say race 9. Sorry.

bigbrown
10-01-2009, 10:09 AM
Based on the three examples below, and assuming all tracks report exacta probables the same way, the exacta probable payoffs shown on SuperTote are rounded down, or "chopped off", as you put it. These probable payoffs are reported by the host tracks; Brisnet/SuperTote is not doing the rounding.

In the first example, race 3 today at Zia, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 9-1 exacta combination is $85. The actual payoff was $85.80.

In the second example, race 7 today at Suffolk, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 2-9 exacta combination is $50.00 The actual payoff was $50.60.

In the third example, race 10 today at Delaware, the final probable payoff shown for the winning 4-3 exacta combination is $22. The actual payoff was $22.60.

Showbet,

These are very good examples! Thank you for posting the screenshots.

Quick question: is the matrix payoff that you display "final"? I.e., does this matrix correspond to the final payoffs? If this is the case your examples make very clear the point. Assuming of course that there is consistency, i.e., that these examples generalize accross tracks for SuperTote.

BB

showbet
10-01-2009, 12:22 PM
Quick question: is the matrix payoff that you display "final"? I.e., does this matrix correspond to the final payoffs?
Yes, I made sure to wait until the pools had updated for the final time before I took the screenshots, then I double-checked the exacta pool amounts on the SuperTote matrices against the amounts shown in the DRF charts.

Zia race 3 exacta pool SuperTote $7555 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4938). Exacta probable 9-1 $85 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4938)
Zia race 3 exacta pool DRF $7556 (http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=ZIA&CTY=USA&DATE=20090929&RN=3). Exacta 9-1 $85.80 (http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=ZIA&CTY=USA&DATE=20090929&RN=3)

Suffolk race 7 exacta pool SuperTote $44,010 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4939). Exacta probable 2-9 $50 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4939)
Suffolk race 7 exacta pool DRF $44,011 (http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=SUF&CTY=USA&DATE=20090929&RN=7). Exacta 2-9 $50.60 (http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=SUF&CTY=USA&DATE=20090929&RN=7)

Delaware race 9 exacta pool SuperTote $38,152. Exacta probable 4-3 $22 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4940)
Delaware race 9 exacta pool DRF $38,153. Exacta 4-3 $22.60 (http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndexAction.do?TRK=DEL&CTY=USA&DATE=20090929&RN=9)


For some reason, the total pool amounts always seem to differ by a dollar, but the screenshots I posted definitely reflect the final pools.