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PaceAdvantage

09-21-2009, 07:22 PM

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mflynnjnolte/2009/09/20/pregame-report-the-nea-conference-call/

That Obama administration officials would make even tacit suggestions about potential artistic output to a collection of federal grant recipients is, itself, troubling. That these suggestions matched-up with very specific and time-sensitive legislative priorities should give us all pause.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2009/09/Buffy-Wick3.jpg (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2009/09/Buffy-Wick3.jpg)
Buffy Wicks

But, there is even a larger issue that hasn’t yet received much attention in the press. Among the Obama Administration officials on the call were Buffy Wicks, Office of Public Engagement (http://www.whitehouse.gov/ope/)and the lead White House official on the President’s Serve.Gov initiative to promote national service. Also on the call was Nell Abernathy, Director of Outreach for Serve.Gov (http://serve.gov/). One of their main goals on the call, it seems, was to encourage artists to produce works that would reinforce the President’s call for service; specifically through the Serve.Gov web-portal.

As Dana Loesch recently reported at Big Government (http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/18/taxpayer-funded-serve-gov-filtering-activists-to-acorn/), the Serve.Gov portal funnels citizens to volunteer or service projects connected with ACORN and other leftist groups. The taxpayer-funded website is evolving into a cyber-recruitment tool for the progressive movement.

So what did happen on that call? Was the NEA coordinating with the White House to push their agenda on a group of artists eager for and reliant upon the NEA for grants, or is the NEA telling the truth that this call “was not a means to promote any legislative agenda”?Wow. Imagine if the Bush administration was taking over the auto industry, the banks, the newspaper industry, student loans and now starving artists...imagine the outcry from 46zil and hcap!?!?!?!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, simply silence...:D :bang: :D

[Insert ddog condescending response HERE]

andymays

09-21-2009, 07:38 PM

Limbaugh: White House Using Fed Arts Agency to Push Obama Agenda

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/sullivan/2009/09/21/limbaugh-white-house-using-fed-arts-agency-to-push-obama-agenda/

Excerpt:

Do you remember that NEA phone call? I think it was back in August, the 21st or the 25th, and it featured basically a coordination from the White House to the National Endowment for the Arts to promote Obama’s health care and parts of his domestic agenda. One of the artists on that call got hold of Breitbart and said they’re turning the National Endowment for the Arts and www.Serve.gov, the latest website out of the White House, into political instruments, and there are four pieces written on this at BigGovernment.com. But all it really exposes up ’til now is that the NEA was lying about their coordination with the Obama White House on spreading propaganda. This is the thing that George Will had a comment on This Week, said some laws were broken in this call. Then after some attention was focused on this they announced that the National Endowment for the Arts director of communications Yosi Sargent had been reassigned. They said he was fired but he was actually just reassigned. (more…)

boxcar

09-21-2009, 07:44 PM

This is going to be a huge scandal -- bigger than ACORN. There's been rumblings for a while now on this story breaking. Glad to see the MSM is still on top of things... :rolleyes:

Boxcar

andymays

09-21-2009, 07:54 PM

This is going to be a huge scandal -- bigger than ACORN. There's been rumblings for a while now on this story breaking. Glad to see the MSM is still on top of things... :rolleyes:

Boxcar

All roads lead back to the White House and several Administration Officials.

The most ethical and transparent administration ever! :D :rolleyes:

ArlJim78

09-21-2009, 08:50 PM

I said from the beginning that all this focus on service, serve.gov, etc, was just a front aimed at enlisting people to spread their propaganda, serve their ideological mission, get out the vote, support their pet causes etc. helping the needs of the community is secondary.
It's why I didn't trust the presidents speech to students nor his repeated calls for service on TV and Organizing For America, etc.

Here they enlisted "cool" artsy people (who receive grants from the government) to help with health care, cap and trade, etc. If you read the transcript of the phone call you can see they are drunk on power and they think the sky is the limit. To hell with laws or truth telling.

lsbets

09-21-2009, 09:14 PM

This is the kind of stuff that went on in the old Soviet Block - produce art to support the government's message. I notice no one tried to defend the dropping of the missile shield to help GE, but I think one or two of the apologists will try to excuse this.

And people wonder why I don't trust Kim Jong Obama.

Hank

09-21-2009, 10:17 PM

BOO!:lol:

boxcar

09-21-2009, 11:07 PM

BOO!:lol:

You've finally got something right, Hank. The level of your intellectual impoverishment is downright scary.

Boxcar

mostpost

09-22-2009, 12:38 AM

I never cease to be amazed by the things you fellas come up with. I read the transcript of the conference call, which I am quite sure none of you did. I noted the passages which were highlighted to prove the point of the persons who posted said transcript. Which point was not even close to being proved.

To start the original article by Patrick Courr (however you spell it) tried to give the impression that the artists of America were being coerced into providing their talents in support of the Obama agenda on fear of losing their government funding.

The fact is that participants in the call all appeared to already be supporters of Obama. All except Patrick C. who claims not to be a right wing nut job, even though he writes for a right wing nut job blog.
Time out: I see that ArlJim78 did indeed read the transcript. His interpretation is another matter. Time in.

The important point is, this conference call was a pep rally. It was a way to develop enthusiasm among people who were already supporters and to introduce them to tools with which to enhance their effectiveness.

No one is going to force anyone to write a sonnet extolling the virtues of single payer. No one is going to make any one paint a picture portraying the benefits of cap and trade. There are plenty of people willing to do that. JUST AS THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WILLING TO PRODUCE ART PROPAGANDIZING THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA.

And do not act as if this were the first time government has used art to advance a cause. "Uncle Sam was created by an artist. Smokey the Bear was created by an artist. The Star Spangled Banner was created by an artist. As were hundreds, thousands of works pushing a government agenda.
This is going to be a huge scandal -- bigger than ACORN.
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hcap

09-22-2009, 03:09 AM

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mflynnjnolte/2009/09/20/pregame-report-the-nea-conference-call/

Wow. Imagine if the Bush administration was taking over the auto industry, the banks, the newspaper industry, student loans and now starving artists...imagine the outcry from 46zil and hcap!?!?!?!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, simply silence...:D :bang: :D

[Insert ddog condescending response HERE]You also babbled...
Somebody has to be the watchdog now that you, hcap, secretariat, and all the other former Bush bashers and administration watchdogs are on hiatus (gee, I wonder why you guys chose now to take a break from pointing out every single potential conflict of interest, every single grammatical error

Hiatus? What else when dealing with endless paranoid crapola fantasies from a bunch of circle jerking marionettes. What's the point?

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lsbets

09-22-2009, 06:03 AM

Tom

09-22-2009, 08:02 AM

Obama has proven to be a good litmus test for the true level of intelligence and sincerity of many posters here and at large. We owe him for that - we no longer hae to wait for Bill Engval to give them a sign.:D

ArlJim78

09-22-2009, 10:48 AM

The important point is, this conference call was a pep rally. It was a way to develop enthusiasm among people who were already supporters and to introduce them to tools with which to enhance their effectiveness.

I'm going to have to throw a flag and assess you with a 15 yard penalty for excessive naivete on this one. A pep rally? :lol:

It's illegal, period to coerce people who receive grants to work on legislative issues, which was the case here. In the immediate aftermath of this call, many art groups came out publically for Obamacare.

Also, it seems you have adopted the same fuzzy language that these people use. Can you explain to me what it means to "introduce them to tools to enhance their effectiveness". The White House now functions as an art counselor?

mostpost

09-22-2009, 12:33 PM

I'm going to have to throw a flag and assess you with a 15 yard penalty for excessive naivete on this one. A pep rally? :lol:

It's illegal, period to coerce people who receive grants to work on legislative issues, which was the case here. In the immediate aftermath of this call, many art groups came out publically for Obamacare.

Also, it seems you have adopted the same fuzzy language that these people use. Can you explain to me what it means to "introduce them to tools to enhance their effectiveness". The White House now functions as an art counselor?
After some consideration, I have to revise my thoughts on this subject. The NEA should not have gotten involved in this matter, because to do so leaves an impression of misconduct, regardless of intent. If the White House desired some artists to voluntarily use their talents to promote White House policies, there are better ways to get those artists together. I see nothing wrong with the White House taking that approach.

Having said that, I did read the transcript and I did not find any evidence of coercion. There were no threats either specific or implied to withhold grants to any person. I do not believe this was part of a deliberate plot to politicize NEA.

This was certainly not like the attempts by the Bush administration to politicize the Justice department. As in the case of the eight Attorneys General who were fire a few years ago. They were fired when they refused to prematurely bring charges against Democrats they were investigating for vote fraud and other felonies. Bush and friends desired this premature adjudication in order to damage those Democrats chances of reelection.

I did not hear the same level of outrage when this occurred as I do now.
In fact I heard no outrage.

lsbets

09-22-2009, 12:38 PM

LottaKash

09-22-2009, 12:42 PM

Also, it seems you have adopted the same fuzzy language that these people use. Can you explain to me what it means to "introduce them to tools to enhance their effectiveness". The White House now functions as an art counselor?

Someone has to be loyal, dedicated, and ready enough, to paint the "Swastika-like-Icons", when they are eventually needed.....

best,

Tom

09-22-2009, 12:52 PM

It was a way to develop enthusiasm among people who were already supporters and to introduce them to tools

Yes, and no one has more tools on their staff like Obama does!
He is the Craftsman of presidents! :lol:

mostpost

09-22-2009, 01:05 PM

You surely don't want to bring up politics at Justice, do you?

- deciding not to prosecute in New Mexico graft case bc of Bill Richardson's involvement
- not prosecuting New Black Panther Party members for voter intimidation

Not a bad start in the first year of politics at the top of Justice. You really don't want to bring that up, do you?

At least with the NEA you finally admitted it was wrong. Much better than with those fake ACORN videos. ;)
This may make you feel better:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/09/inquiry-opened-about-new-black-panther-case//print/
Excerpt
The Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility has begun an official inquiry into the dismissal in May of a civil complaint against the New Black Panther Party and two of its members who disrupted a Philadelphia polling place during the November general elections.

If they made a mistake in dismissing the complaint, they are rectifying that mistake. As for the Richardson case, it is possible there was no wrongdoing. It is possile there was insufficient evidence to bring the case to trial.

mostpost

09-22-2009, 01:06 PM

Yes, and no one has more tools on their staff like Obama does!
He is the Craftsman of presidents! :lol:
I really regret using that phrase :bang:

andymays

09-22-2009, 01:33 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/after-inappropriate-nea-conference-call-white-house-pushes-new-guidelines.html

Excerpt:

After 'Inappropriate' NEA Conference Call, White House Pushes New Guidelines

An August 10, 2009 National Endowment for the Arts conference call in which artists were asked to help support President Obama's agenda -- a call that at least one good government group called "inappropriate" -- has prompted the White House to issue new guidelines to prevent such a call from ever happening again.

"The point of the call was to encourage voluntary participation in a national service initiative by the arts community," White House spokesman Bill Burton told ABC News. "To the extent there was any misunderstanding about what the NEA may do to support the national service initiative, we will correct it. We regret any comments on the call that may have been misunderstood or troubled other participants. We are fully committed to the NEA's historic mission, and we will take all steps necessary to ensure that there is no further cause for questions or concerns about that commitment."

ArlJim78

09-22-2009, 02:18 PM

it was only an innocent pep rally, and so they won't do it again.:D

hcap

09-22-2009, 03:00 PM

It seems doubtful you actually read the transcript most, because if you did and understood it, it is obvious that the NEA was engaging in illegal partisan activities to support an agenda with the incentive of taxpayer funding. Wrong is wrong, why the hell you can't recognize that is beyond me. You seem to be fully enamored with Kim Jong Obama. Do you pray to him each day and thank him for what you have?I had more faith in your ability to see nonsense. You dismissed the birthers. Yet you think this is a slippery slope on the road to old style Soviet world domination.

At least I don't pray to the gods of Beck/Hannity/ and WNDaily.
As I said to Boxie....Keep telling yourselves it is not PARANOIA if they really are out to get ya.

Follow the leader to sillyness

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oLfZCAWrETU/ScfZDWx_zvI/AAAAAAAAAmM/0kbcoT8s1dE/s400/elephant1

andymays

09-22-2009, 03:26 PM

At Least 6 Federal Laws and Regulations Violated By the NEA Conference Call

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bshapiro/2009/09/22/at-least-6-federal-laws-and-regulations-violated-by-the-nea-conference-call/

Excerpt:

Yesterday, I posted about the NEA conference call’s clear and obvious violations of the Anti-Lobbying Act (19 U.S. Code §1913), which explicitly provides: “No part of the money appropriated by any enactment of Congress shall, in the absence of express authorization by Congress, be used directly or indirectly to pay for any personal service, advertisement, telegram, telephone, letter, printed or written matter, or other device, intended or designed to influence in any manner a Member of Congress, a jurisdiction, or an official of any government, to favor, adopt, or oppose by vote or otherwise, any legislation, law, ratification, policy, or appropriation, whether before or after the introduction of any bill, measure or resolution proposing such legislation, law, ratification, policy or appropriation …” The Anti-Lobbying Act, according to government handbooks, prevents government employees from engaging in “substantial ‘grass roots’ lobbying campaigns … expressly urging individuals to contact government officials in support of or opposition to legislation …. Provid[ing] administrative support for lobbing activities of private organizations …”

schweitz

09-22-2009, 05:24 PM

I had more faith in your ability to see nonsense. You dismissed the birthers. Yet you think this is a slippery slope on the road to old style Soviet world domination.

At least I don't pray to the gods of Beck/Hannity/ and WNDaily.
As I said to Boxie....Keep telling yourselves it is not PARANOIA if they really are out to get ya.

Follow the leader to sillyness

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oLfZCAWrETU/ScfZDWx_zvI/AAAAAAAAAmM/0kbcoT8s1dE/s400/elephant1

Hey hcap, I'm curious; what happened to your daily anti-war posts? :eek:

lsbets

09-22-2009, 05:40 PM

Hey hcap, I'm curious; what happened to your daily anti-war posts? :eek:

Hope and Change.

hcap

09-22-2009, 06:20 PM

Hey hcap, I'm curious; what happened to your daily anti-war posts? :eek:
The guys in Afghanistan attacked us. So of course we invaded Iraq.
What else is new? I guess 90% of the righties here want to invade anybody that the bushies believed is "evil". Maybe France? BTW, whatever happened to "freedom fries"?

Or Freedom is on the March?
Or Pat Tillman?
Or Jessica Simpson?
Or WMDs?
Or making the World safe for Democracy?
Or the all time-Insurgency is in it's last Throes?

Gee whatever happened?

On sale guys. Relive your glorious past fantasies.

http://images6.cafepress.com/product/101608206v3_480x480_Front.jpg

schweitz

09-22-2009, 06:45 PM

The guys in Afghanistan attacked us. So of course we invaded Iraq.

Oh, I didn't realize we pulled out of Iraq. :rolleyes:

hcap

09-22-2009, 06:55 PM

exactaplayer

09-22-2009, 07:29 PM

hcap

09-22-2009, 07:41 PM

The role model.......

http://quearrozconmango.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/glenn-beck-goes-crazy-in-radio-show-pin-head-funny-comedy.jpg

hcap

09-22-2009, 07:54 PM

The proof......

THIS HOTLINKED IMAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF HARD CORE PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES APPEARING IN ITS PLACE AT CERTAIN TIMES.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO HOTLINK AN IMAGE ON PACEADVANTAGE.COM, PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE SOURCE. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED.

schweitz

09-22-2009, 08:17 PM

Did you realize that Bimbo Bush took our resources OUT of Afghanistan to take care of Saddam and his WMDs." That you gentlemen still think are there. Syria anyone?

BTW, you are correct. We are still there. Thank you again Prezdense Bimbo.

Then I would think that if you were to be truly consistent with your anti-war beliefs that you would be posting about pissed you are that the current president isn't doing anything to get us out of Iraq. At least Cindy Sheehan is not a hypocrite.

JustRalph

09-22-2009, 09:04 PM

Just stopping by to see what Beck has you guys all wee wee'd up about today.
A few weeks ago you were raging about losing your "guns", then yesterday it was the internet now today it is your art appreciation. Your paranoia is overwhelming and will go down in history as a classic example of mass psychosis.

yep, it is amazing how the "minority" has been able to tie Obama and his movement up in knots huh?

The guns and other stuff that he has put on the back burner is making for a great market in guns.........that were purchased over the last year and are now coming back to market in private sales at much discounted prices.......
over all the "minority" is doing a pretty good job of tying up Mr. Popularity in her first year........

boxcar

09-22-2009, 11:00 PM

Hope and Change.

You're such an easy mark for the con.

Boxcar

PaceAdvantage

09-23-2009, 03:47 AM

Hiatus? What else when dealing with endless paranoid crapola fantasies from a bunch of circle jerking marionettes. What's the point?Well, you'd be the expert on that, coming out of the Bush years, when you were without a doubt the A#1, paranoid crapola fantasy spewing, circle jerking marionette ever to grace PaceAdvantage.com's off-topic section.

BTW, what do you think would happen if Bush had some of his minions not-so-subtly imply that he'd like to see art depicting support for the war on terrorism, the war in Iraq, etc. etc.

This is no different. You'd be screaming from the rafters if Bush had done this sort of thing...but Obama doing it is just fine by you.

Guess what hcap. You're a HYPOCRITE, just like the rest of us...

PaceAdvantage

09-23-2009, 03:51 AM

The guys in Afghanistan attacked us.How do you know this? Oh, that's right, Bush told you. All the other things Bush told you were lies...but this one you believe...:lol:

And didn't you repeatedly tell us that SAUDI ARABIA attacked us, since most of the hijackers were from that area of the world? Or was that LIGHT who kept repeating that one...

Man, you guys are so quick to revise even your OWN version of history...:eek:

PaceAdvantage

09-23-2009, 03:55 AM

hcap

09-23-2009, 04:56 AM

Don't worry, hcap will have no pretty cartoons or pictures to rebut the slam I just put on him with his "Afghanistan attacked us" mantra...

How hcap picks and chooses what he wants to believe from the Bush years is beyond me.....I see you deleted one of my cartoons stating that 80% of Faux viewers believe Saddam was behind 911. It was pretty and it is the truth. I know it had F*uck in the caption. When are you going to give up your archaic "Hill Street Blues" regulatory criteria. James Joyce is a better model. Dirty, but fine literature.

If you think denying who really attacked us is somehow going to change the historical record, you are delusional as Georgie. And as wrong.

hcap

09-23-2009, 05:12 AM

Ok Hill street it is. Edited out why you deleted the cartoon.

The original at.......

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/mommy_stupid.jpg

The cleaned up Hill Street version.....

Tom

09-23-2009, 07:53 AM

So hcap, you justify the war in Afghanistan because they attacked us?
Do you also justify Obama's plan for the war that doesn't include victory?
He himself has said he doesn't want victory, and we all know congress is chomping at the bit for us to lose. Do you justify putting our troops in harms way and NOT fighting to the best of our ability?

Curious. I was all over Bush for that same thing.
Perhaps Prez Hussein has other plans......he did start using his Hussein name when he addressed the muslem world, that same name we were not supposed to use here at home durning the campaign. Curious?

Tom

09-23-2009, 08:27 AM

Actually, it was NOT Afghanistan that attacked us, it was Al Qeda and the Taliban. They are in Pakistan now, even more powerful than they were in Afghanistan. Why are we not invading Pakistan?

GaryG

09-23-2009, 10:06 AM

The guns and other stuff that he has put on the back burner is making for a great market in guns.........that were purchased over the last year and are now coming back to market in private sales at much discounted prices.......
over all the "minority" is doing a pretty good job of tying up Mr. Popularity in her first year........I almost bought an M1 at a recent gun sale. We have quite a few of them out this way. I just couldn't afford it. Maybe later.

http://usera.imagecave.com/receivers/Picture%20249.jpg

PaceAdvantage

09-23-2009, 09:59 PM

First off hcap, it's not Hill Street, but NYPD Blue...how long have you been a member here? Nice try though...

Second, I will ask again...how is it you're so sure "Afghanistan attacked us."

Because BUSH said so? :lol:

All the evidence points otherwise...you know, like way back when you guys liked to point out that most of the 9/11 hijackers were of SAUDI descent...

I knew you weren't going to directly address my points...