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andymays
09-18-2009, 05:55 PM
A Tackle Box Full of Race Bait

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQ0MmEzNjU5MDQ1NjdmYTc0ZDUzNzExMDFjNDJkMDU=

Excerpt:

Of all the poisonous, ugly, and intellectually vapid controversies ginned up in my lifetime, the current breakout of St. Vitus’ Dance over the “racist” opposition to Barack Obama may be the most egregious.

Al Sharpton tells CNN’s Larry King that decent and racially sensitive Americans shouldn’t let a small minority make health care into a “racial issue.”

Someone in the control room surely yelled, “Cue the laugh track!”

In case you don’t get the joke, this entire “debate” over whether opposition to Obama’s health-care reform is racist is totally, completely, and in every way conceivable an invention of the Left.

Oh, sure, there are some racists who oppose Obama. Shocking news, that.

And, yes, a tiny, tiny fraction of the signs at the Tea Party protests last weekend were racially insensitive. But if that’s how we’re going to score, then opposition to the Iraq War is anti-Semitic. After all, I saw a bunch of signs at antiwar protests that said bigoted things about Jews.

andymays
09-18-2009, 06:25 PM
Focus on Race Veils the Main Causes of Rage and Fear

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703598.html

Excerpt:

Jimmy Carter is a southerner who grew up witnessing Jim Crow segregation in all its forms, so when he told NBC News that he believes "an overwhelming portion" of the public animosity directed at President Obama recently is "based on the fact that he is a black man," many Americans listened. But pointing at racism as the chief source of rage is a trap into which liberals have fallen too often, for reasons we'd better face quickly.

andymays
09-18-2009, 07:23 PM
Obama: Health care anger not motivated by his race!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090918/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Friday that angry criticisms about his health care agenda are driven by an intense debate over the proper role of government — and not by racism.

"Are there people out there who don't like me because of race? I'm sure there are," Obama told CNN. "That's not the overriding issue here."

ArlJim78
09-18-2009, 07:29 PM
he basically said yes there are racists out there. just not so many.
its his way of appearing to take the high road but really just fanning the flames.

andymays
09-18-2009, 07:45 PM
he basically said yes there are racists out there. just not so many.
its his way of appearing to take the high road but really just fanning the flames.


If he would have said there are some racists on both sides he would have credibility!

andymays
09-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Bob Barker Not Racist

http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/18/bob-barker-price-is-right-lawsuit-deborah-curling/

Excerpt:

A judge threw out a case against Bob Barker -- the former host of "The Price is Right" -- ruling the claim by a former black show employee that Barker tolerated racism was bogus.

Deborah Curling sued Barker, alleging racial, anti-Semitic and sexist jokes were rampant on the set.

The judge had previously thrown out most of the case -- but now the fat lady has sung on Curling's case.

The only issue "The Price is Right" has with color involve the choices for some of the cars they give away -- a burnt-orange Pontiac ... please.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/18/bob-barker-price-is-right-lawsuit-deborah-curling/#ixzz0RVPiXuHD

Tom
09-19-2009, 10:29 AM
Give Obama credit - he is far smarter than most of his supporters.

LottaKash
09-19-2009, 12:09 PM
I think anything "Al Sharpton" speaks, smacks of "racism"....That is what he is all about....He is just a" racist troublemaker", masquerading as a good-doer that is continually stirring up the racial pot.....

"Tawana Brawley" can back me up on this...

Get a "real job" Rev-Al....:jump:

And Carter, please go back to your peanuts and building the houses that fall apart after 10-or so years....You are needed there...(not really)

best,

andymays
09-19-2009, 07:16 PM
Real Racism: Lessons in “To Kill a Mockingbird”

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/asking/2009/09/19/race-lessons-in-to-kill-a-mockingbird/

Excerpt:

My name is Bob Ewell. We’re all Bob Ewells if you check with the Left and their media mouthpieces.

Who is Bob Ewell? Well, if you’ve ever watched the movie To Kill a Mockingbird, you’d know that Ewell is the racist character who destroyed the life of an innocent man.

To Kill A Mockingbird is a classic American film, based on Harper Lee’s novel of life in 1936 Alabama and racial injustice that resided there.

The importance of this movie is that the cries of racism today, most recently by former president Jimmy Carter — which are not true — damage and set back the real cases of racism. This movie shows us real racism, which thankfully, we don’t see much of today. Jimmy Carter is screeching that we’re racist, that we don’t think Obama is qualified because he’s Black.

Watch To Kill a Mockingbird and see for yourself.

JustRalph
09-19-2009, 07:56 PM
Skip "To Kill a Mocking Bird" and just read up on the Scottsboro boys

that's where she got the idea anyway............and the Scottsboro boys is a damn bit worse than anything in the Mockingbird book

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottsboro_Boys

andymays
09-19-2009, 09:30 PM
Jimmy Carter’s Record on Race

http://newsrealblog.com/2009/09/17/jimmy-carters-record-on-race/

Excerpt:

As Jimmy Carter portrays conservatives as violent racists, it’s worth remembering Carter’s own history of racial demagoguery. Carter campaigned for governor of Georgia as a self-proclaimed “redneck,” in an era when that word had pronounced racial connotations. His campaign distributed a photo of his gubernatorial opponent Carl Sanders being embraced by black basketball players to a Ku Klux Klan rally. Carter pledged to invite Alabama’s infamous segregationist governor George Wallace to Georgia if elected. He once said he was “proud” to have the equally segregationist Lester Maddox as his lieutenant governor following the 1970 election, calling Governor Axe-handle “the essence of the Democratic Party” (which he was).

cj's dad
09-19-2009, 09:36 PM
Real Racism: Lessons in “To Kill a Mockingbird”

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/asking/2009/09/19/race-lessons-in-to-kill-a-mockingbird/

Excerpt:

My name is Bob Ewell. We’re all Bob Ewells if you check with the Left and their media mouthpieces.

Who is Bob Ewell? Well, if you’ve ever watched the movie To Kill a Mockingbird, you’d know that Ewell is the racist character who destroyed the life of an innocent man.

To Kill A Mockingbird is a classic American film, based on Harper Lee’s novel of life in 1936 Alabama and racial injustice that resided there.

The importance of this movie is that the cries of racism today, most recently by former president Jimmy Carter — which are not true — damage and set back the real cases of racism. This movie shows us real racism, which thankfully, we don’t see much of today. Jimmy Carter is screeching that we’re racist, that we don’t think Obama is qualified because he’s Black.

Watch To Kill a Mockingbird and see for yourself.

Just a point of information:

The only novel ever written by Harper Lee

andymays
09-20-2009, 12:15 PM
Must Listen/Watch Video

This is one of the best interviews you will ever hear!

Breitbart.tv ESPN s Stephen A. Smith Tells Mark Levin Why He s Alarmed by Obama s Direction

http://www.breitbart.tv/espns-stephen-a-smith-tells-mark-levin-why-hes-alarmed-by-obamas-direction/

He listens to Levin every day!

Excerpt:

"You are about to turn me into a conservative."

Stephen A. Smith :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

robert99
09-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Focus on Race Veils the Main Causes of Rage and Fear

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703598.html

Excerpt:

Jimmy Carter is a southerner who grew up witnessing Jim Crow segregation in all its forms, so when he told NBC News that he believes "an overwhelming portion" of the public animosity directed at President Obama recently is "based on the fact that he is a black man," many Americans listened. But pointing at racism as the chief source of rage is a trap into which liberals have fallen too often, for reasons we'd better face quickly.

andy,

There is a subtle difference between the old racism of mobs hanging innocent black Americans and many people not being ready to accept a black man as President (which is closer to what Carter actually said). The white vote in the old race States for Obama was as low as 10%. That does not make them KKK members, but part of the living older generation who were indoctrinated from birth with racism from school, to church to college as being right. They won't adjust easily. You also cannot blame free thinking liberals for the views of one man. The other 100M + have not played any cards. He spoke, as is his right, as he saw things from his background - maybe he was wrong, maybe he was right). Liberals cherish the freedom to base their thinking based on the facts, rather than doctrine, and you cannot second guess them.

The other aspects are the coded racial signals being used by minority fractions - the plentiful supply of Confederate flags at the Washington rally (a silent signal that the race war is not over); the tea partyists (regain control from a Government with an alien black president simply throwing our money away); the "berthers" ( this man is not American but some other, an outsider, a socialist ; a communist; a muslim; a terrorist); the tenthers (Fed Gov should not intervene with State laws - actually we really want our Jim Crow laws back).

The trap the Republicans are falling into is that the Republicans are not leading the opposition debate let alone controlling it. The "you lie" statement being the formal admission to the country of their powerlessness. They are allowing the groups, which do include some old style racists, to do that for them. Splinter groups now are the opposition. Splinter groups are by their nature weak and have no real solutions to complex issues that the majority of voters will trust. Once the Health Bill is passed they will die away with no galvanising cause to replace them.

andymays
09-20-2009, 02:36 PM
andy,

There is a subtle difference between the old racism of mobs hanging innocent black Americans and many people not being ready to accept a black man as President (which is closer to what Carter actually said). The white vote in the old race States for Obama was as low as 10%. That does not make them KKK members, but part of the living older generation who were indoctrinated from birth with racism from school, to church to college as being right. They won't adjust easily. You also cannot blame free thinking liberals for the views of one man. The other 100M + have not played any cards. He spoke, as is his right, as he saw things from his background - maybe he was wrong, maybe he was right). Liberals cherish the freedom to base their thinking based on the facts, rather than doctrine, and you cannot second guess them.

C'mon Robert. Liberals base their thinking on facts and I cannot second guess them? :rolleyes:

There is much more racism practiced by the left in this country and it's been that way for the last 30 years. Most clear thinking people here refuse to accept the false blame game that has been going on.

The other aspects are the coded racial signals being used by minority fractions - the plentiful supply of Confederate flags at the Washington rally (a silent signal that the race war is not over); the tea partyists (regain control from a Government with an alien black president simply throwing our money away); the "berthers" ( this man is not American but some other, an outsider, a socialist ; a communist; a muslim; a terrorist); the tenthers (Fed Gov should not intervene with State laws - actually we really want our Jim Crow laws back).

The misconception that the Confederate flag is racist is typical of someone who wants to see it that way. The overwhelming majority of people that show it are not showing it for racist reasons!

The overwhelming majority of people opposing Obama do so because of his policies and accept his citizenship!

I don't think that there is any question that Obama is Socialist and/or Marxist! All factual information available points to it!

Believing in smaller government and States Rights doesn't mean people are racist at all!


The trap the Republicans are falling into is that the Republicans are not leading the opposition debate let alone controlling it. The "you lie" statement being the formal admission to the country of their powerlessness. They are allowing the groups, which do include some old style racists, to do that for them. Splinter groups now are the opposition. Splinter groups are by their nature weak and have no real solutions to complex issues that the majority of voters will trust. Once the Health Bill is passed they will die away with no galvanising cause to replace them.


Forget Republicans. They are not driving anything. It's Traditionalists and Conservatives that want fiscal and personal responsibility first. That doesn't mean they want people living under bridges and dying in the streets. To say that is a form of racism in and of itself.

If you think this will die away you are dillusional. If people could go back in time knowing what they know now Hillary would have won the primary easily and would most likely be President today.

LottaKash
09-20-2009, 02:53 PM
If people could go back in time knowing what they know now Hillary would have won the primary easily and would most likely be President today.

And that would be a "good thing" ???.....Boy, are we in trouble....:D

best,

andymays
09-20-2009, 02:56 PM
And that would be a "good thing" ???.....Boy, are we in trouble....:D

best,


McCain was hopeless. But if I had a choice between Hillary and Obama it's an easy choice but not a good choice!

LottaKash
09-20-2009, 03:08 PM
McCain was hopeless. But if I had a choice between Hillary and Obama it's an easy choice but not a good choice!

I agree, Andy, but I reiterate, "boy, are we in trouble"....some choices, hunh ?

best,

andymays
09-20-2009, 03:16 PM
I agree, Andy, but I reiterate, "boy, are we in trouble"....some choices, hunh ?

best,


I think it depends of how much damage Obama does. If the country can get him out in the next election we may come back stronger.

The whole Liberal/Socialis/Marxist thing is out there for everyone to see and more people are rejecting it every day. With people like Obama/Pelosi/Frank and others this idealogy will be rejected for years to come if we can just get past the next few years.

boxcar
09-20-2009, 03:34 PM
I think it depends of how much damage Obama does. If the country can get him out in the next election we may come back stronger.

The whole Liberal/Socialis/Marxist thing is out there for everyone to see and more people are rejecting it every day. With people like Obama/Pelosi/Frank and others this idealogy will be rejected for years to come if we can just get past the next few years.

That or if he really overreaches. A lot of people already believe he and his socialist comrades in the congress are overreaching with this health care reform nonsense that would intrude into people's personal lives -- into their personal choices. Even the fact that he wants to force participation by everyone into this socialist-minded scheme doesn't sit well at all with very many people.

Like Rush, I truly hope he does overreach. This, I believe, would force a showdown between this administration and the people.

Boxcar

andymays
09-20-2009, 03:38 PM
Must Listen/Watch Video

This is one of the best interviews you will ever hear!

Breitbart.tv ESPN s Stephen A. Smith Tells Mark Levin Why He s Alarmed by Obama s Direction

http://www.breitbart.tv/espns-stephen-a-smith-tells-mark-levin-why-hes-alarmed-by-obamas-direction/

He listens to Levin every day!

Excerpt:

"You are about to turn me into a conservative."

Stephen A. Smith :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:


If some of you guys missed this interview it's outstanding!

ArlJim78
09-20-2009, 03:54 PM
an Obama voter who now says he's turning conservative? this Steven A Smith guy must be a racist.


oh wait a minute...

andymays
09-20-2009, 04:05 PM
an Obama voter who now says he's turning conservative? this Steven A Smith guy must be a racist.


oh wait a minute...


:lol:


When you hear Smith express himself in the interview you have to believe there's a little hope.

robert99
09-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Forget Republicans. They are not driving anything. It's Traditionalists and Conservatives that want fiscal and personal responsibility first. That doesn't mean they want people living under bridges and dying in the streets. To say that is a form of racism in and of itself.

If you think this will die away you are dillusional. If people could go back in time knowing what they know now Hillary would have won the primary easily and would most likely be President today.

Well I can admire your zeal.
If you agree that the Republicans can be forgotten then who is going to lead the splinter groups into electoral victory - Glenn Beck -or do you see an armed march on Washington?

I would not think the Democrats are too happy either about inheriting the financial mess America is in. If the banks were a day from closing down the ATM machines then the only responsible action is reluctantly to bail out. The staggering losses made by the banks is where the money is going to patch things up.
If they did not it was the peoples' savings and pensions down the drain. Without cash and employment people are not able to be self responsible. I don't want anybody to die either.

If you only consider your point of view and only get reinforcement of your point of view from what you read, listen to and watch you get a very distorted view of what people actually think. The vast silent majority in USA are not marching. You are also posting too many "ifs" which is like the Confederates saying how they really won the war but actually lost it.

Time will tell but the"movement" is already dieing as Washington has taken the agenda over. The President can calmly put his point of view, what the health problem is and how it can start to be solved and the people will think it far more reasonable than what the splinter groups have been shouting. They then realise, as most already have, who is actually telling the lies and then the groups are finished. Mobs are very noisy but gutless when confronted head on.

andymays
09-20-2009, 04:26 PM
Well I can admire your zeal.
If you agree that the Republicans can be forgotten then who is going to lead the splinter groups into electoral victory - Glenn Beck -or do you see an armed march on Washington?

It's a little more than a splinter! Are you making fun of our right to bear arms in this country?

I would not think the Democrats are too happy either about inheriting the financial mess America is in. If the banks were a day from closing down the ATM machines then the only responsible action is reluctantly to bail out. The staggering losses made by the banks is where the money is going to patch things up.

The Democrats played no role in the financial mess right? :lol:

If they did not it was the peoples' savings and pensions down the drain. Without cash and employment people are not able to be self responsible. I don't want anybody to die either.

If you only consider your point of view and only get reinforcement of your point of view from what you read, listen to and watch you get a very distorted view of what people actually think. The vast silent majority in USA are not marching. You are also posting too many "ifs" which is like the Confederates saying how they really won the war but actually lost it.

What does that mean? Are you living it when I'm only reading, listening, and watching?

Time will tell but the"movement" is already dieing as Washington has taken the agenda over. The President can calmly put his point of view, what the health problem is and how it can start to be solved and the people will think it far more reasonable than what the splinter groups have been shouting. They then realise, as most already have, who is actually telling the lies and then the groups are finished. Mobs are very noisy but gutless when confronted head on.

Liberal Mobs are very noisy and gutless when confronted head on. We agree! I have to say your not coming off so tolerant of opposing points of view yourself. What about it?

Tom
09-20-2009, 05:34 PM
So bobby, how about the 90% of districts were the black vote went to him?
Were they racists, too?

I see you are as clueless as the libs here are.
BTW, the movement is dying? :lol::lol::lol:
That what King Gorgeous Georgie said back in 1776.

Valuist
09-20-2009, 09:32 PM
For a guy who claims the U.K. is so great, Robert certainly seems obsessed with U.S. politics. Its obvious that from afar, one can get their thoughts manipulated by the main stream media.

robert99
09-21-2009, 06:41 AM
So bobby, how about the 90% of districts were the black vote went to him?
Were they racists, too?

I see you are as clueless as the libs here are.
BTW, the movement is dying? :lol::lol::lol:
That what King Gorgeous Georgie said back in 1776.

Well Tommie I appreciate you have special needs difficulty with comprehension and the English language but I have not said any voters are or were racist.

As far as the "movement" goes there are no English left to plan, organise and fight for the new "revolution". Just a clueless, flabby, ignorant bunch of elderly leaderless whiners who have no clue what to do next except moan. That's why they will disintegrate and die away and join the long line of losing hopeless causes you support. Real grown up life is tougher than posting on the internet, Tom.

Tom
09-21-2009, 07:35 AM
We like to think that we have evolved from being English.
You know, like moneys to man. that sort of thing.
Tough talk is more convincing when it comes fro the winners, which excludes the English. You guys couldn't even take GHANDI! And he wouldn't fight! ;)

robert99
09-21-2009, 11:16 AM
We like to think that we have evolved from being English.
You know, like moneys to man. that sort of thing.
Tough talk is more convincing when it comes fro the winners, which excludes the English. You guys couldn't even take GHANDI! And he wouldn't fight! ;)

Well Tommy you have certainly evolved the money. It is now nearly extinct in USA. What has USA ever won on its own bat - zilch? Wait a minute, oh yes was forgetting the Mexicans in 1848. Then nearly 140 years later took on the real big guys of Grenada and Panama - scary stuff.
We could not even take out Osama bin Laden - oh, no that was for your lot and he only posts videos.

Tom
09-21-2009, 11:41 AM
What has USA ever won on its own

You guys never would have gotten on the mainland in WWII without us. You guys were dead and you know it. The French resistance were more useful than the British were. Even the women. :eek: :lol:

But enjoy your fantasy, Robby, being British, that is all you have left.

robert99
09-21-2009, 01:06 PM
You guys never would have gotten on the mainland in WWII without us. You guys were dead and you know it. The French resistance were more useful than the British were. Even the women. :eek: :lol:

But enjoy your fantasy, Robby, being British, that is all you have left.

Ah Tommy never answer the point and topic of the thread but bring in the Hollywood remake fantasy version made for the consumption of the American market.

I know you are not one for history books but they will tell you we were already in France when France fell in May 1940. Where were the Americans?
The French resistance were then recruited, trained in and supported by Britain. They were not going to stand by and watch. Where were the Americans?
The German airforce was defeated in the Battle of Britain in fall of 1940 when we stood alone with our Commonwealth allies. Where were the Americans?
Hitler lost the war when he attacked our Russian allies in June 1941. Where were the Americans? December 41 Oh, sh#t, the Japs have attacked USA now USA will have to join in on the winning side.
The land war was fought in North Africa, 42 and Italy, 43. Defeating the Germans and Italians. In 43 the Germans surrendered to the Russians at Stalingrad.
Not until June 44 did the Canadians, British and USA attack the Normandy beaches. That was the easy bit.

46zilzal
09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
WW II was a joint effort. Even the Cosa Nostra helped out in Italy and Corsica

Tom
09-21-2009, 02:33 PM
Like football is a team effort, but take out Manning and the Giants lose.
Robert, keep dreaming boy.

Where were the Americans in 1940? Home where we belonged. It was YOUR war not ours, and we foolishly believed you guys could fight your own battles. You know thegrat Empire and all that rot. Silly us, but we were a relatively young nation, just recovering from a depression and yet still supplying you guys with war materials. Then we had that nasty set back at Pearl Harbor.....took us a year to go from devistation to world power. We needed Britain, though, I'll give you that. You guys left us nowhere to land in France, so we had to basically start from scratch, but once we go going, it was about a half a year to Berlin.

Good thing for you guys our WOMEN had the wherwithall to run the factories while our men mopped up your mess. A mess, btw, enables much in part to Chamberlin's idiotic ezcuse for leadership. I suspect in reality, he shit his pants when Hitler looked him in the eye and had to come up with something to tell everyone at home. That's ok, to be born British is to know your role.

PaceAdvantage
09-21-2009, 04:49 PM
It's not like robert99 to get all down and dirty like this. He must think you have lots of credibility Tom...good for you!

Hank
09-21-2009, 10:29 PM
It's not like robert99 to get all down and dirty like this. He must think you have lots of credibility Tom...good for you!

:lol::lol: Who needs football?

andymays
09-22-2009, 09:54 AM
ACORN: Getting Rich Off Racism

http://www.pjtv.com/v/2467

andymays
09-22-2009, 10:39 AM
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/anathan/2009/09/22/meet-the-cry-wolf-racists-dowd-garofalo-carter/

Excerpt:

What do actor/comic Janeane Garofalo, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd and former President Jimmy Carter all have in common? They commit racism in the name of fighting it, but still expect to be taken seriously. In short, their grasp of self-awareness has the finely tuned grip of a yak opening a jar of jelly.

Our health care debate has fortunately exposed much ugliness too long ignored. Like most political animals (elephants or donkeys), these three give a pass to their own for that which they never tolerate from others. They’re the kind of individuals rightly scorned by Shakespeare’s Antonio in The Merchant of Venice when he said, “Oh what a goodly outside falsehood hath,” Act I, Scene iii. More specifically, Garofalo, Dowd and Carter have morphed into the very beings most of us loathe – those who accuse others of the very evil they have done themselves. They are cry-wolf racists.

46zilzal
09-22-2009, 10:50 AM
Like football is a team effort, but take out Manning and the Giants lose.
Robert, keep dreaming boy.

Where were the Americans in 1940? Home where we belonged. It was YOUR war not ours, .
No it was what it was from the outset, and strangely enough was called what it was a WORLD war.

boxcar
09-22-2009, 11:22 AM
No it was what it was from the outset, and strangely enough was called what it was a WORLD war.

And what even stranger is that the entire world wasn't involved in it! And good thing it wasn't and that the U.S. took the leadership role in that war. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar

BlueShoe
09-22-2009, 03:20 PM
The German airforce was defeated in the Battle of Britain in fall of 1940 when we stood alone with our Commonwealth allies. Where were the Americans?Not until June 44 did the Canadians, British and USA attack the Normandy beaches. That was the easy bit.
Hey Bobby,is revisionist history your hobby?Did you ever hear about Lend Lease?Or how about the Battle of the Atlantic?Recall a fellow named Karl Doenitz?He was the head of a ltttle group called Unterseebootes.Without American convoys and the US Navy his U boats would have strangled Britain.Normandy?What about North Africa,Sicily,and Italy?We were there.Our bomber crews suffered horrible casualties on runs from England into occupied Europe.Remember that?Interesting in that most Americans from general down to private generally disliked the Brits and regarded them with contempt during the War.We could start,of course,with Monty,but then if we did,we would all be here a very long time,so will skip it for now.We Yanks saved your Limey arses,and the rest of the world as well,which seems convenient for most of you Euros to forget these days.

robert99
09-22-2009, 06:26 PM
Hey Bobby,is revisionist history your hobby?Did you ever hear about Lend Lease?Or how about the Battle of the Atlantic?Recall a fellow named Karl Doenitz?He was the head of a ltttle group called Unterseebootes.Without American convoys and the US Navy his U boats would have strangled Britain.Normandy?What about North Africa,Sicily,and Italy?We were there.Our bomber crews suffered horrible casualties on runs from England into occupied Europe.Remember that?Interesting in that most Americans from general down to private generally disliked the Brits and regarded them with contempt during the War.We could start,of course,with Monty,but then if we did,we would all be here a very long time,so will skip it for now.We Yanks saved your Limey arses,and the rest of the world as well,which seems convenient for most of you Euros to forget these days.

Total rubbish. :ThmbDown:
You are embarrassingly ignorant of even the most basic facts. :ThmbDown:

robert99
09-22-2009, 06:28 PM
And what even stranger is that the entire world wasn't involved in it! And good thing it wasn't and that the U.S. took the leadership role in that war. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar

How can you take the leadership when you are not even in it? :bang:
80% of Americans did not even want to get involved and that was 2 years after it started.

robert99
09-22-2009, 06:48 PM
Like football is a team effort, but take out Manning and the Giants lose.
Robert, keep dreaming boy.

Where were the Americans in 1940? Home where we belonged. It was YOUR war not ours, and we foolishly believed you guys could fight your own battles. You know thegrat Empire and all that rot. Silly us, but we were a relatively young nation, just recovering from a depression and yet still supplying you guys with war materials. Then we had that nasty set back at Pearl Harbor.....took us a year to go from devistation to world power. We needed Britain, though, I'll give you that. You guys left us nowhere to land in France, so we had to basically start from scratch, but once we go going, it was about a half a year to Berlin.

Good thing for you guys our WOMEN had the wherwithall to run the factories while our men mopped up your mess. A mess, btw, enables much in part to Chamberlin's idiotic ezcuse for leadership. I suspect in reality, he shit his pants when Hitler looked him in the eye and had to come up with something to tell everyone at home. That's ok, to be born British is to know your role.


So where were the Americans?
You think that the Depression only effected USA?
We were still getting over WW1 where a whole generation of men had been sacrificed plus the Depression. Chamberlain actually declared war on Germany.
In the years before and during World War II the United States Congress, the Roosevelt Administration, and US public opinion expressed concern about the fate of Jews in Europe but consistently refused to permit large-scale immigration of Jewish refugees. Britain opened up its doors to Jewish refugees from Germany.
You think that our women did not take on factory work for the war effort?
You think the US Army could even find France without our guidance?
USA got 749 of its own servicemen killed when simply training off the beach at Slapton Sands, Devon, UK - more than got killed at Utah beach.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O129-SlaptonSands.html
You think it was only the USA in France?
You got 9/11 - we got 9/11 every night for months on end in every town and city. So where were the Americans?

Tom
09-23-2009, 07:39 AM
I love it when they try to rationalize failure. :lol:

andymays
09-25-2009, 09:38 PM
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/24/dislike-obama-you-must-be-racist/

Excerpt:

The obvious explanation for his low ratings are his unpopular policies, writes MARK STEYN, but don’t go there

by Mark Steyn on Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:00am - 272 Comments

A year ago, in the final stretch of the U.S. election campaign, I would find myself in New York or Los Angeles or points in between and asked for my thoughts on who would win. I usually answered “John McCain,” more in hope than expectation: I’ve no use for the soi-disant “maverick,” who was a catastrophic candidate, but in those heady days between Sarah Palin’s boffo convention speech and McCain’s characteristically inept response to the economic meltdown there was briefly a faint chance that the Alaskan governor might yet save the Republican party from its rendezvous with destiny.

And at that point the worldly liberal Democrat who had sought my views would nod thoughtfully and agree: yes, McCain would win. Not because of Sarah Palin. But because Americans were too racist to stomach the thought of a black man in the White House.