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Show Me the Wire
09-15-2009, 12:15 PM
An insightful comment from a profound op-ed piece by David Brooks:


"It’s funny how the nation’s mood was at its most humble when its actual achievements were at their most extraordinary." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/opinion/15brooks.html?_r=1

DJofSD
09-15-2009, 12:24 PM
From your lead in comments, I knew it would be something relating to WWII.

Regarding the authors topic, I chalk it up to narcissism.

ddog
09-15-2009, 12:55 PM
nah, that's too easy.

There are just too many that have never faced REAL hard times anymore.

I don't mean not getting a raise or having to settle for a Ford instead of a BMW.

I mean real life and death struggles to feed your family or to defend the country.

The draft would go a long way to fixing this.

You have to recall how many were taught hard lessons from those times.
How many of them saw they were lucky to get a chance to live here.
How many didn't survive.

They knew you didn't have a free ride to the "shining city on a hill".

Others had died and worked their whole lives to build it never expecting to reap the rewards of all their work.

If they did , fine, but they didn't expect it as their right.

I disagree with the ending of his piece. It's not the end of the world, but it's certainly diminished this country.

That, i don't think can even be argued.

Warren Henry
09-15-2009, 12:58 PM
nah, that's too easy.

There are just too many that have never faced REAL hard times anymore.

I don't mean not getting a raise or having to settle for a Ford instead of a BMW.

I mean real life and death struggles to feed your family or to defend the country.

The draft would go a long way to fixing this.

You have to recall how many were taught hard lessons from those times.
How many of them saw they were lucky to get a chance to live here.
How many didn't survive.

They knew you didn't have a free ride to the "shining city on a hill".

Others had died and worked their whole lives to build it never expecting to reap the rewards of all their work.

If they did , fine, but they didn't expect it as their right.
Why can't everyone see this.

Show Me the Wire
09-15-2009, 01:02 PM
It is certainly a valid reason why this country is so politically divided and the resulting ineffiency in the Belt-way.

ddog
09-15-2009, 01:09 PM
I fear it goes deeper(imo), it's all the endless marketing to YOU, YOU NEED this YOU deserve this YOU MUST HAVE THIS.

ON and on.

The consumption at all costs society is lifted to the holy grail of American life that feeds on the lack of "the old attitudes".

Live beneath your means, live modesty.

Maybe that is all just way out of fashion. I am too old for the times.

Show Me the Wire
09-15-2009, 01:25 PM
I believe it goes deeper. It sseks the end of the American experiment, that no person is morally superior to or has more individual rights to exist than another person.

Tom
09-15-2009, 01:46 PM
We might all be created equal, but that changes rather quickly.
Some of Obama's people would still be doing abortions long after that changed.