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botster
08-31-2009, 07:14 PM
This is live to say the least.I haven't had time to even look over the past performances.

This guy Ritchie training and driving the #1 is one that knows how to set one up.He is taking some action off the 15-1 morning line.I will try him in a box here.

1/2-3-4-5-9 in an exacta.

He should drift up some on the win end.8-1, or better, a win bet.

camfella
08-31-2009, 07:22 PM
Nice price on #8 Ms Pollyanna, Zeron getting bet down

camfella
08-31-2009, 07:28 PM
only 15-1 for Drury,they must have had him right

botster
08-31-2009, 07:33 PM
This is live to say the least.I haven't had time to even look over the past performances.

This guy Ritchie training and driving the #1 is one that knows how to set one up.He is taking some action off the 15-1 morning line.I will try him in a box here.

1/2-3-4-5-9 in an exacta.

He should drift up some on the win end.8-1, or better, a win bet.

What an underlay 7-2?:ThmbDown:

camfella
08-31-2009, 07:40 PM
Race 2- the favorite was sucked along in races against 2 of the biggest 2 year olds, did close well, but #2 King of Rock has shown a steady progression, it looks like #8 at 5/2 is too low,but has a chance ,#5 is drawing some wagering money, 4th back was a good race

botster
08-31-2009, 07:41 PM
only 15-1 for Drury,they must have had him right

Down the road...You would think they had to have had him:eek:.

botster
08-31-2009, 07:45 PM
Race 2- the favorite was sucked along in races against 2 of the biggest 2 year olds, did close well, but #2 King of Rock has shown a steady progression, it looks like #8 at 5/2 is too low,but has a chance ,#5 is drawing some wagering money, 4th back was a good race

#8 goes a bit like a trotter up front:D.Nice looking horse.

botster
08-31-2009, 07:56 PM
9 KASH AND CREDIT seems to have gotten even better since his last win here against weaker.Clint has always had success when shipping up North.RUSSELL HILL is a nice three year old, he would be the favorite in here.

I think the #4 is very vulnerable coming out of a fifteen and he will be bet.

2-9/2-9/all in a triple

win/place #9

2-9 exacta BOX looks pretty good here IMO.

botster
08-31-2009, 08:06 PM
9 KASH AND CREDIT seems to have gotten even better since his last win here against weaker.Clint has always had success when shipping up North.RUSSELL HILL is a nice three year old, he would be the favorite in here.

I think the #4 is very vulnerable coming out of a fifteen and he will be bet.

2-9/2-9/all in a triple

win/place #9

2-9 exacta BOX looks pretty good here IMO.

Couldn't run over the $12 number there:ThmbDown:.

botster
08-31-2009, 08:12 PM
I must send it in here on #4 IT'S MY BEST.An absolute giant improvement for this four year old in last out of town.Horse has won 6-24 lifetime starts gets the switch to Saftic.Using with 1-5-6-7 in a box.

triple 4-5/1-4-5-6-7/all

Geez... is Zeron running for Mayor...what a bull*******!!!:rolleyes:

camfella
08-31-2009, 08:16 PM
I must send it in here on #4 IT'S MY BEST.An absolute giant improvement for this four year old in last out of town.Horse has won 6-24 lifetime starts gets the switch to Saftic.Using with 1-5-6-7 in a box.

triple 4-5/1-4-5-6-7/all

Geez... is Zeron running for Mayor...what a bull*******!!!:rolleyes:
Ricky is a slick one:liar:

camfella
08-31-2009, 08:18 PM
4th - Joe Hudon might have the best horse,but who wants to put money down on him??:confused:

botster
08-31-2009, 08:18 PM
I must send it in here on #4 IT'S MY BEST.An absolute giant improvement for this four year old in last out of town.Horse has won 6-24 lifetime starts gets the switch to Saftic.Using with 1-5-6-7 in a box.

triple 4-5/1-4-5-6-7/all

Geez... is Zeron running for Mayor...what a bull*******!!!:rolleyes:

Wow... 24-1 GP totally ignoring him here...not surprised.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 08:20 PM
Race 4


#6 Ciano Man W/P
6-1 Exacta Box


SB

camfella
08-31-2009, 08:21 PM
4th - Joe Hudon might have the best horse,but who wants to put money down on him??:confused:
1,2,4,5, box, I'm not happy that the #6 is drawing wagering attention,looks like a sign?

botster
08-31-2009, 08:25 PM
It appeared that the person who hung up the #7, didn't line the hangers even.

botster
08-31-2009, 08:31 PM
Wow... 24-1 GP totally ignoring him here...not surprised.

No good..WAY OFF!

camfella
08-31-2009, 08:32 PM
1,2,4,5, box, I'm not happy that the #6 is drawing wagering attention,looks like a sign?
that was a twilight zone finish,wow

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 08:39 PM
Race 5

#6 Opens up with $9000 in the win column.

Man O Man



SB

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 08:44 PM
Race 5

#10 W/P

6-1-10 Box Exacta

1610/1610/164102 Tri

SB

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 08:49 PM
Power outage at Mohawk

Thats all we needed

SB

botster
08-31-2009, 08:49 PM
I am gonna sit it out until the ninth after that one.

4 ERICSKARRI impressed me bigtime last week with that effort.Brad Maxwell had this horse as a youngster and he had some kind of ability and class.He had to suffer a major health issue.He plumeted in class and was sold.He is back in the Maxwell barn again and his last I believe was the indicator.He drops here and it should be "lights out", he is the other major play this evening.

WIN 4 at 3-1 or better.

4/1-2-6 exacta

4/1-2-6/all triple

camfella
08-31-2009, 08:51 PM
well, the lights are out here, may be back later ,but think they are going to cancel,so....see ya later

botster
08-31-2009, 08:52 PM
Power outage at Mohawk

Thats all we needed

SB

The way I have been going SB, this may help me and my online wagering account;).

botster
08-31-2009, 08:53 PM
well, the lights are out here, may be back later ,but think they are going to cancel,so....see ya later

I wish they would have lost the lights before the fourth:p.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 08:58 PM
I am gonna sit it out until the ninth after that one.

4 ERICSKARRI impressed me bigtime last week with that effort.Brad Maxwell had this horse as a youngster and he had some kind of ability and class.He had to suffer a major health issue.He plumeted in class and was sold.He is back in the Maxwell barn again and his last I believe was the indicator.He drops here and it should be "lights out", he is the other major play this evening.

WIN 4 at 3-1 or better.

4/1-2-6 exacta

4/1-2-6/all triple

Hi Bots It me again trying to pick your brain.

I notice that #4 Erikskarri has a shoeing change from Aluminiun to Steel today.

How positive is that from a handicapping point of view.Please comment

SB

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 09:00 PM
I wish they would have lost the lights before the fourth:p.

Now thats funnnnny. :lol:

SB

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 09:33 PM
Race 6


#5 to win

5/4 Box

SB

botster
08-31-2009, 09:55 PM
Hi Bots It me again trying to pick your brain.

I notice that #4 Erikskarri has a shoeing change from Aluminiun to Steel today.

How positive is that from a handicapping point of view.Please comment

SB

The lights are back on!

Steel is heavier than aluminum, so this change will have him break over slower in front where the change is being made. I assume that J.J could have thought the horse was not grabbing the track as well as he could last week and suggested steel.Sometimes trainers will add borium(or a grab) to the shoe to even break them over even slower.Maybe he thought he is going well enough now to switch back to the way he is usually shod.He may have had a problem that wasn't having him go his best, so they made that change to compensate and help.

It could be NOT A GOOD THING either.He may have not been in sync the way he had been during last weeks race and JJ suggested the change to compensate...I hope not!

I believe this change will only help him tonight.I have MUCH faith in this combo.

botster
08-31-2009, 10:02 PM
As a handicapper and one who watches how these animals go when they race.I would believe from what I saw last week that this change WILL ONLY HELP, unless something happened during his time off from his last race.

Let's watch him on the track.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 10:11 PM
Race 8

Pass


SB

botster
08-31-2009, 10:18 PM
Many times horses get infections or absesses that start unnoticeable for weeks sometimes that many times result in cracks.A trainer who generally always uses one standard shoe type may switch to steel to help a horse in early stages of these ailments.A pad is used as well to eleviate soreness,but at the same time adds more weight and for some trotters and this could throw them off.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 10:26 PM
Race 9

A small cautious bet on #10 W/P


SB

botster
08-31-2009, 10:29 PM
As a handicapper and one who watches how these animals go when they race.I would believe from what I saw last week that this change WILL ONLY HELP, unless something happened during his time off from his last race.

Let's watch him on the track.

He looks fine jogging unlike the #8 who is dragging his right hind badly.#1 with the shoeing change looked noticeably sore up front in the post parade... anyway.

botster
08-31-2009, 10:37 PM
He looks fine jogging unlike the #8 who is dragging his right hind badly.#1 with the shoeing change looked noticeably sore up front in the post parade... anyway.

Broke off the gate.I would love to know what happened to this horse a few years back to stop his progress.His breaking tendendies must have something to do with a pretty bad injury.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 10:40 PM
Race 10


2-4 Exacta

2-4-8- Tri

SB

botster
08-31-2009, 10:50 PM
Race 10


2-4 Exacta

2-4-8- Tri

SB

Nice fractions in that one...HAHAHAHA!

botster
08-31-2009, 10:53 PM
I would say the 4 MCTAC TOE is the value.He still is reasonably fresh,in good form. and moves up for their price.I t could very well be a Mcnair double here.

4/9...??

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 10:57 PM
race 11

two speed balls on top at the qtr

box 2/6 exacta

race 12

best bet for me #8 richmond hanover

i have got my grand son in my lap desperately trying to get to the keyboard so excuse the typing

sb

botster
08-31-2009, 10:59 PM
I would say the 4 MCTAC TOE is the value.He still is reasonably fresh,in good form. and moves up for their price.I t could very well be a Mcnair double here.

4/9...??

Another underlay here...2-1 on the #4???

botster
08-31-2009, 11:00 PM
race 11

two speed balls on top at the qtr

box 1/6 exacta

race 12

best bet for me #8 richmond hanover

i have got my grand son in my lap desperately trying to get to the keyboard so excuse the typing

sb

Let him pick out a horsey on the screen and get back to me.I could use a winner tonight!

botster
08-31-2009, 11:03 PM
4-6/9 in the doule for me.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 11:12 PM
Let him pick out a horsey on the screen and get back to me.I could use a winner tonight!

bots you have a good sense of humor you really do

best


sb

botster
08-31-2009, 11:16 PM
race 11


best bet for me #8 richmond hanover


sb

I flat out missed this one last week.Distractions will kill you sometimes:bang:.

Mayottes good at clouding the lines for a price...hoping here.

5/2-6-8-9-10...Goodnight SB.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 11:17 PM
race 11

two speed balls on top at the qtr

box 2/6 exacta

race 12

best bet for me #8 richmond hanover

i have got my grand son in my lap desperately trying to get to the keyboard so excuse the typing

sb

well what do you know.#8 opens up as the favorite. somebody must have read my post hehe

justin13892002
08-31-2009, 11:18 PM
Here are Race 12's selections courtesy of STAKINGACES STABLES SELECTION SERVICE.... Good Luck.




Electric Energy 10
Stonebridge Master 9
Super Delight 2
Orr Hanover 3



BIG OVERLAY HERE as the top 2 selections are sitting at 19-1 at the moment!!!

botster
08-31-2009, 11:19 PM
bots you have a good sense of humor you really do

best


sb

SERIOUSLY SB...WHO DOES YOUR GRANDSON PICK??...lol!!!! ;)

botster
08-31-2009, 11:20 PM
Here are Race 12's selections courtesy of STAKINGACES STABLES SELECTION SERVICE.... Good Luck.




Electric Energy 10
Stonebridge Master 9
Super Delight 2
Orr Hanover 3



BIG OVERLAY HERE as the top 2 selections are sitting at 19-1 at the moment!!!

DO WORK!!!

justin13892002
08-31-2009, 11:24 PM
DO WORK!!!

Hit a nice place at 8-1.

Nice hit Bot.

botster
08-31-2009, 11:25 PM
I flat out missed this one last week.Distractions will kill you sometimes:bang:.

Mayottes good at clouding the lines for a price...hoping here.

5/2-6-8-9-10...Goodnight SB.

Got lucky and hit the exotics here.No clouding of the lines here just a garden trip tonight.

Sea Biscuit
08-31-2009, 11:26 PM
I flat out missed this one last week.Distractions will kill you sometimes:bang:.

Mayottes good at clouding the lines for a price...hoping here.

5/2-6-8-9-10...Goodnight SB.

good capping bots. gn

sb

botster
08-31-2009, 11:29 PM
Hit a nice place at 8-1.

Nice hit Bot.

Thanx, but after all the crap I posted about my top two selections tonight and theIR results, then to get lucky as I had purchased a scratch off lottery ticket on this win is pretty disturbing...LOL!!!

botster
08-31-2009, 11:30 PM
good capping bots. gn

sb

HAHAHAHAH...Now it's you with the sense of humor SB!!!:D...gn guys!

Sea Biscuit
09-01-2009, 06:15 AM
HAHAHAHAH...Now it's you with the sense of humor SB!!!:D...gn guys!

Actually I was quite serious. With Mayotte on top at $11.70 to 1 and with 10 and the 8

you hit a nice $194 Exacta and even nicer $1452 Tri. You only need one hit like that to make your day.

Hope you played it and not chickened out at the last moment.

Believe it or not I asked my GS to point to a horse and he pointed out the 5 but I was not convinced so I did not pass it on to you.

I personally stayed away from the race because my horse the #8 went below my required odds. They were betting him as if he was the only horse in the race. He did not disappoint me tho because he lost by only 2/3rd of a length. With the pace so slow it was a really a very good effort. He goes in my VS Stable.

Good luck

Sea Biscuit.

Sea Biscuit
09-01-2009, 06:48 AM
Hit a nice place at 8-1.

Nice hit Bot.

Justin: Your gauranteed percentage of 45% winners for first two horses does not mean much when the % of winning favorites at Mohawk is 40.5%

What is your win % for the top pick may I know?


Sea Biscuit.

justin13892002
09-01-2009, 07:30 AM
Top Pick at Mohawk is 37%.

It is really good at having longshots too though, not just favorites... Mohawk is actually one of the worst tracks for this software!

MOHAWK STATS
Top Selection his an average of 37%
Top 2 Selections on average of 49%
Top 3, have hit 89%.

ROI for Exactas with top 2 KEYED out front of all 4 selections is 1.18
ROI For Trifectas with Top 2 KEYED With all 4 selections is 1.49

Just some stats... Its not a stab in the dark. I use the software as a Betting Line basis. I also look at the PP's to see what I like and see how it ranks with the Software, and Betting Line, and go from there. I will post 1 full day's selections today....

Good hits at Mohawk bot, keep it up.

botster
09-01-2009, 10:14 AM
Actually I was quite serious. With Mayotte on top at $11.70 to 1 and with 10 and the 8

you hit a nice $194 Exacta and even nicer $1452 Tri. You only need one hit like that to make your day.

Hope you played it and not chickened out at the last moment.

Believe it or not I asked my GS to point to a horse and he pointed out the 5 but I was not convinced so I did not pass it on to you.

I personally stayed away from the race because my horse the #8 went below my required odds. They were betting him as if he was the only horse in the race. He did not disappoint me tho because he lost by only 2/3rd of a length. With the pace so slow it was a really a very good effort. He goes in my VS Stable.

Good luck

Sea Biscuit.

"Chickening out" is something I very rarely do anymore.I had both exotics, exacta and triple for $1.No win bet because I was just shooting in the dark pretty much.I knew your grandson would pick that winner...LOL!

Your right about the pace there.Actually there were a few tonight that were pretty uneventful in where closers were hurt.

botster
09-01-2009, 10:23 AM
Top Pick at Mohawk is 37%.


Good hits at Mohawk bot, keep it up.


Thanx justin...Sometimes you get lucky.That triple made up for a tough couple of days for me actually.

If it wasn't the finale I may have not even played it!!!

This game is so unpredictable at times.

botster
09-01-2009, 10:34 AM
I personally stayed away from the race because my horse the #8 went below my required odds. They were betting him as if he was the only horse in the race. He did not disappoint me tho because he lost by only 2/3rd of a length. With the pace so slow it was a really a very good effort. He goes in my VS Stable.

Good luck

Sea Biscuit.

That was a ridiculous price on that horse #8.A few big underlays in the win hole tonight seen in comparison of the exacta payouts with these horses.