What Bullcrap

[MartyZee]

Kill 270 people-spend 8 years in jail-compassionate release-did he give a shit who he killed-may you rot in hell -does anyone associated with his release have compassion for the victims' families? The bastard is going to get a hero's welcome in Libya-

[Bochall]

They should just blow up the plane they send him home on...deal done.

[Bochall]

...but wait until it's over Libyan air space, and let it rain fuselage all over Tripoli!

[Rookies]

They should just blow up the plane they send him home on...deal done.

Interesting answer and probably the correct one.:ThmbUp:

I never get this "compassionate grounds" nonsense for terrorists or mass murderers bullshit. I feel exactly the same about the guards, commandants and designers of the concentration camps of WWII. Pursue them until they take their last breath, imprison them (if you're not going to execute them) and throw away the key.

I don't give a damn whether they're 85. Every young scumball mass murderer/terrorist around the world should know that they will be pursued forever.

How about asking the 270 families whether THEY want this guy released you Scottish wanker ?

[LottaKash]

I don't give a damn whether they're 85. Every young scumball mass murderer/terrorist around the world should know that they will be pursued forever.

And, by a "much higher power", than man's....It is written.....:cool:

best,

[Marshall Bennett]

They should just blow up the plane they send him home on...deal done.
Why destroy a perfectly good plane . Simply open the door on take-off and throw the bastard out . :)

[robert99]

Many of the UK families are not even convinced we have imprisoned the right one. Many more must have been involved and the second defendant offered was found not guilty. The "compassion" is not for the crime it shows that society can still act in a humanitarian and benign way even for the most atrocious deeds. Which is what a country founded on Christianity does.

"News of his (potential) release provoked a split among bereaved families. While many of the British relatives of those killed have doubts about the extent of Megrahi's guilt and support his being freed, a number of US families who lost loved ones expressed outrage at the prospect.

However, many British families believe Megrahi is innocent. The Libyan was part-way through an appeal against his 2001 conviction, at a trial held in the Netherlands heard under Scottish law.

Pamela Dix, from UK Families Flight 103, said there had been a "lack of justice" for those killed in the tragedy.

Dix, whose brother Peter was killed in the atrocity, told BBC2's Newsnight she was "baffled" by much of the evidence in the trial that led to Megrahi's conviction.

Dix, said last night it was still far from clear whether Megrahi was innocent or guilty since the trial had left so many unanswered questions.

"Almost 21 years after the Lockerbie bombing, I would expect to know who did it, why they did it and how they did it. Instead, we're left in the situation of really knowing very little about what happened."

Dr Jim Swire, who lost his 23-year-old daughter Flora, said it would be to Scotland's credit if the Libyan was released. "I am someone who does not believe he is guilty," he said. "The sooner he is back with his family the better.

"On reasonable human grounds it is the right thing to do and if it's true that he is to be returned on compassionate grounds then that would be more to Scotland's credit than returning him under the prisoner transfer agreement.

Martin Cadman, who lost his son Bill, aged 32, in the disaster, agreed.

"I hope it is true as it's something we've been wanting for a long time," he said.

"I think he is innocent and even if he were not innocent I still think it's certainly the right thing to do on compassionate grounds."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/13/relatives-split-lockerbie-bomber-release

[ddog]

The Rev John Mosey, who lost his 19-year-old daughter, Helga, called the decision "incredibly frustrating" but not unexpected. "The relatives of those who died have been denied access to the evidence that was uncovered by a three-year investigation by the Scottish criminal cases review commission. Unfortunately it is what we expected from the beginning because the authorities – in Scotland, London and Washington – do not want any more information on this coming out."

Jean Berkley, whose son Alistair died in the bombing, agreed the decision was a blow but said the focus would now shift to getting a full independent inquiry. "The families are used to setbacks so we will continue the campaign, but this is difficult because people set lots of store by the appeal and now we are not going to hear the evidence that persuaded the [commission] to grant the hearing in the first place." Alistair's brother, Matt, said: "Many people with a deep understanding of this case have serious concerns about it which are unlikely to go away."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/18/lockerbie-bomber-drops-appeal



dirty linens and gvts not wanting to air???.

If, they cut him loose you gotta ask yourself, why , given the easy and politically safe course of letting him rot, they want to quash the appeal?

[robert99]

ddog,

More comment about the problems of the conviction here.
CIA and FBI accused of bribing witnesses.
No comfort at all for the families seeking justice.

"After conducting an exhaustive three-year review of the case, the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission reported in June 2007 there may have been a miscarriage of justice in Megrahi's case.
Insiders claim there is fresh evidence implicating an extremist Palestinian terror group which had financial backing from Iran. "


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1206467/Is-man-really-guilty-killing-270.html

[JustRalph]

They didn't want to pay for his end of life treatment....

that's why they let him out........plain and simple

[Warren Henry]

They didn't want to pay for his end of life treatment....

that's why they let him out........plain and simple
Once again, JR cuts through the fog.

Would that be considered rationing health care?

[NJ Stinks]

Once again, JR cuts through the fog.



And right into the reef. :sleeping:

[Valuist]

Another great policy out of Europe :rolleyes:

BTW, why would anyone in this country want to emulate any of the policies over there? Excuse me, this country was built by people who wanted to get the hell out of there.

[ddog]

You sure this is OUT OF EUROPE?

If there is/was a deal - this guy for something was it worth it?

1 guy that MAY HAVE been guilty of murder of a couple of 100 v ??????


Maybe a good deal?

[Tom]

If the SOB has cancer, they should pour vinegar on it everyday! They should be torturing him just for practice.

This is why we should always kill terrorists on the spot - slit their throats and bleed them out. No trials, no jail. Kill the bastards and feed them to the pigs.

Scotland has a stain on it today that will never come out.

[Marshall Bennett]

Liberals have a history of wanting to protect these worthless shitbags . After all , they have rights . They don't care that they've killed hundreds , torn familes apart , caused endless suffering . It's their rights they're concerned about .

[Valuist]

You sure this is OUT OF EUROPE?

If there is/was a deal - this guy for something was it worth it?

1 guy that MAY HAVE been guilty of murder of a couple of 100 v ??????


Maybe a good deal?

How would you feel if one of your relatives was one of the 270 people that were killed? We don't give a $hit if this was a so-called "good deal" for them. If they had any foresight, they should've known that this "deal" would be terrible PR. But I'm sure the bleeding hearts in Western Europe won't see it that way.

[Tom]

How many of the victims were returned to life for humanitarian reasons?

Find this POS and kill him, kill his family, kill his friends, burn his house, shoot his dog, salt his garden, burn his children's homes and shoot their dogs.

[robert99]

How many of the victims were returned to life for humanitarian reasons?

Find this POS and kill him, kill his family, kill his friends, burn his house, shoot his dog, salt his garden, burn his children's homes and shoot their dogs.

With his pre-existing condition I don't think they all qualify for an American Health Care Plan, Tom.

[exactaplayer]

Liberals have a history of wanting to protect these worthless shitbags . After all , they have rights . They don't care that they've killed hundreds , torn familes apart , caused endless suffering . It's their rights they're concerned about .
Liberals did not release this scum, it was the Queen Mom and her co-hearts. It like Iraq, is all about OIL!!

[Marshall Bennett]

Liberals did not release this scum, it was the Queen Mom and her co-hearts. It like Iraq, is all about OIL!!
I wasn't implying that liberals were responsible for his release , only that they're ( most of them ) are okay with it , whether they'd ever admit it or not .

[Rookies]

I wasn't implying that liberals were responsible for his release , only that they're ( most of them ) are okay with it , whether they'd ever admit it or not .
Marshall, I'm calling b.s. here ! There is no association with liberalism ( not that I'm one- more of a Social Democrat) with releasing terrorists/ mass murderers from captivity for crimes against humanity.

[NJ Stinks]

I have no problem letting him go home and die if it's OK with the Scottish. I'm sure they have given it a lot of thought.

(FYI, I'm not convinced the guy was guilty of anything either.)

[Marshall Bennett]

Case in point ^^^

[Tom]

Let's not forget it was CLINTON, a lib, who agreed to allow the trial to be in Scotland where there is no death penalty. So, a lib influenced his release...if he was executed, as he should have been, it would be a moot point.

Now, the big ? is, will Obama meet with Khadaffy Duck when he pitches his tent in Jersey this week? Will he legitimize this murdering terrorist? Will he BOW to him>

I have my opinion......

[robert99]

Let's not forget it was CLINTON, a lib, who agreed to allow the trial to be in Scotland where there is no death penalty. So, a lib influenced his release...if he was executed, as he should have been, it would be a moot point.

Now, the big ? is, will Obama meet with Khadaffy Duck when he pitches his tent in Jersey this week? Will he legitimize this murdering terrorist? Will he BOW to him>

I have my opinion......

Tom,

It was Bush1 that handed this over to the United Nations.
The trial has to be under Scottish Law as that is where the offence occurred.
As no jury was allowed in the Netherlands trial I doubt that even USA law could give the death penalty. There was no actual evidence apart from circumstantial and the second defendant was freed as they did not even have that against him. US law gives a minimum of 20 years otherwise. FBI and CIA really messed up by bribing the few witnesses there were who could have testified.

US has been friendly with Libya since the UN sanctions were lifted plus Libya paying agreed compensation to all families. Obama will handle this well as he always does.

"Germantown, MD:
Why is it taking so long to bring these terrorists to justice?

Mark Zaid: The two suspects are presently in hiding, or under protection, in Tripoli, Libya. Unlike President Reagan's response to the 1986 terrorist attack in Germany which led to the bombing of Tripoli that April, President Bush decided to turn the matter over to the United Nations. Thus, a diplomatic rather than a military solution is being sought"

http://www.law.syr.edu/academics/centers/glap/lockerbie.aspx

[Tom]

Texas.
They've got an express line.

[PaceAdvantage]

Obama will handle this well as he always does.And this guy called my credibility into question in a separate thread?

Priceless.

[robert99]

And this guy called my credibility into question in a separate thread?

Priceless.

What credibility?

A whole 7 hours and not one of Uncle Tom and the Chimps have put in a mindless post to support.

[Tom]

So you post a picture of the Queen?????

[PaceAdvantage]

What credibility?The scary part in all of this is that you're serious.

[boxcar]

So you post a picture of the Queen?????

She has improved with age, I see.

Boxcar