We Were Warned

[Pell Mell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

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[exactaplayer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

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Why didn't you say this was a link to the perpetrator of the Iran-contra scam ?

[DJofSD]

Why didn't you say this was a link to the perpetrator of the Iran-contra scam ?
What f'ing difference does that make?

[46zilzal]

That is a classic BOUGHT and PAID for by the AMA. Same line of crap was put out here before medical insurance came in.

[ddog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

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about all the wrong things, but yeah, you were warned.
:lol:

[exactaplayer]

What f'ing difference does that make?
If i had known I would not have wasted my time clicking on the link. That is the f'ing difference.

[DJofSD]

Sounds like another opportunity to utter the line by Jack in "A Few Good Men": you can't handle the truth!

[exactaplayer]

Here is another warning or moment of truth as you say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

[riskman]

Government funded programs include:

* Medicare, generally covering citizens and long-term residents 65 years and older.
* Medicaid, generally covering low income people in certain categories, including children, pregnant women, and the disabled. (Administered by the states.)
* State Children's Health Insurance Program, which provides health insurance for low-income children who do not qualify for Medicaid. (Administered by the states, with matching state funds.)
* Various programs for federal employees, including TRICARE for military personnel (for use in civilian facilities)
* The Veterans Administration, which provides care to veterans, their families, and survivors through medical centers and clinics.
* National Institutes of Health treats patients who enroll in research for free.
* Government run community clinics
* Medical Corps of various branches of the military.
* Certain county and state hospitals

All of the above are subsidized by the U.S. govt. In the case of the VA, , the government owns, operates and pays the Doctors, Nurses ,.Medical Technicians,administrative, security, maintenance etc. What in pray tell should we do with this "socialistic" program. Oh, what the hell, lets do away with the VA, Medicare and let the vets and the elderly find coverage in the private market. The $95 a month Medicare premium will buy you a top notch Health Insurance policy !

While we are at it lets do away with the tax subsidies that are given to Employers that provide Group Medical Benefits to their employees. Who needs these tax breaks-- it is "socialistic" to accept these government subsidies.

And the the SCHI Program for the kids--the hell with them we do not want our kids to accept subsidies from the guberment who needs this "socialistic" program.

Lets all go "natural" --the hell with Medical Insurance.

[Tom]

There is a huge difference between funding and running.

[Pell Mell]

There is a huge difference between funding and running.

Exactly:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[riskman]

I think it is good that we are having this ongoing political debate centering around questions of improving access, efficiency, quality, and sustainability of health care. I do not believe that a government-mandated system of universal health care will approved at this time. As you know, this is a hotly debated political topic, with Americans divided in many different ways. Many compromises will be made along the way and I just cannot envision healthcare reform that does not benefit insurance companies or the private health care industry. I could be off base---I hope not.

[riskman]

Exactly:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

There is no nationwide system of government-owned medical facilities open to the general public except the VA system which is for the benefit of the military and their families.
In the United States, ownership of the health care system is mainly in private hands and will remain that way.The health care system in the U.S. has a vast number of players. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of insurance companies in the U.S.

So how is the government going to"run" these companies? Are we going to "nationalize" them? Are we going to put the HMO's, PPO's under government control? Are we going to take over the hospitals, clinics ,private doctor practices, pharmacies, the third party administrators that process and settle claims.

This industry is already highly regulated.ie,the United States Department of Health and Human Services ,The agencies of the Public Health Service are the Health Administration, which regulates health care to people without health care, the Food and Drug Administration, which certifies the safety of food, effectiveness of drugs and medical products, the Centers for Disease Prevention, which prevents disease, premature death, and disability, the Agency of Health Care Research and the Agency Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, which regulates hazardous spills of toxic substances.

So tell me --how is the government going to "run" the health care system?

[cj's dad]

If the BO plan is passed, what effect will it have on the employment rate in the USA?? Has this been factored in ?? I doubt it !!

[BenDiesel26]

Oh, what the hell, lets do away with the VA, Medicare and let the vets and the elderly find coverage in the private market.

Remember back to March, when Obama actually did want Vets to cover combat related injuries with their private insurance? I'm assuming that's since off the table.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Remember back to March, when Obama actually did want Vets to cover combat related injuries with their private insurance? I'm assuming that's since off the table.

Remember when Obama's FY10 budget blueprint was released in late Febraury of this yr and he proposed increasing VA spending by 10.9% in FY10 vs. the 9.3% increase in FY09 (a budget he did not set)?

[riskman]

Remember back to March, when Obama actually did want Vets to cover combat related injuries with their private insurance? I'm assuming that's since off the table.

Yes, the issue is dead. There was such an uproar that it was DOA. .

There are many cases where Vets that have a service connected disability would receive better care in the private sector. The VA could work with these providers and agree on a fair reimbursement but I do not know if a change in the law is required.

[JustRalph]

If i had known I would not have wasted my time clicking on the link. That is the f'ing difference.


Alas, we found the guy who voted for Mondale in 84..............