How Low Will He Go?

[lsbets]

:lol: :lol:

After reading this, I couldn't resist:

At six months in office, Obama's 55% approval rating puts him 10th among the 12 post-World War II presidents at this point in their tenures. When he took office, he ranked seventh.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-20-obama-poll-economy_N.htm

I'm sure Hcap will take great offense to this and post a bajillion graphs and charts about Bush, but I thought since Hcap so loves polls (which I have said repeatedly mean nothing to me), I would show him this link as a kind of public service.

If you are to believe polls, they pretty much show that people like Obama personally but don't trust him on much anymore. Not surprising considering he is the most irresponsible President of my lifetime. Maybe he is smart enough politically to do a 180 if he can't jam his agenda through, but I have little faith in that happening.

Anyway, 10th out of 12. Down from 7 out of 12. Maybe it's just because he throws like a girl? :lol:

Come on Obamabots, explain how great the messiah is. :lol:

[Warren Henry]

If the President is really a pathological narcissist as some claim, things are about to get ugly.

I just reread an article by Ali Sina - published prior to the election. I thought it was a little spooky at the time, now it is downright frightening.

I don't know anything about the author or the organization behind the website. They may be the worst kind of radical fringe in existence. What I do know is that some of the stuff he says in this piece seems(to me, at least) to have accurately predicted some of what we have seen between the date of publication and now.

Read and judge for yourself.

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Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

By Ali Sina

2008/09/22



http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

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[ArlJim78]

Imagine how low it would be if he didn't have a slobbering fawning media. He'd be 12th out of 12. No president has been as reckless and destructive for our country. He replaced the War On Terror with the War On America.

[boxcar]

If the President is really a pathological narcissist as some claim, things are about to get ugly.

I just reread an article by Ali Sina - published prior to the election. I thought it was a little spooky at the time, now it is downright frightening.

I don't know anything about the author or the organization behind the website. They may be the worst kind of radical fringe in existence. What I do know is that some of the stuff he says in this piece seems(to me, at least) to have accurately predicted some of what we have seen between the date of publication and now.

Read and judge for yourself.

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Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

By Ali Sina

2008/09/22



http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

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Great piece! This guy truly nails the real Obama. Thanks for posting the link.
This is a real keeper and I shall be distributing this to various people.

And this all confirms what I said months ago about this president: He is the most dangerous man in the world because his presidency has always been about trying to satisfy his unquenchable thirst for Power. He is a power addict and this is what makes him so very dangerous.

If anyone ever doubted that at some point in time, the entire world will flock after and virtually worship a charismatic, charming, enchanting, eloquent and captivating messianic-type leader, such as the antichrist will be, then think again. The BOs, Hitlers and Stalins of this world teach us how gullible and self-deceived we mortals can be because man's sinful nature drives us to misplace our faith -- to believe in things that we should not -- proving that idolatry is alive and well in this age. (Look, for example, how easy it was for our newest arrival Horsepicker to condemn me for wanting BO to fail because he looks at this president as his personal "navigator" in life. He places his trust in BO -- a proven serial liar, to boot! Well, sadly, the world is full of Horsepickers, Suffs, Hcaps, NJs, 46ers and Secretariats. The world is, in fact, ripe. It's ready for the pickin, as evidenced by this latest narcissist to take its center stage.

Boxcar

[ArlJim78]

an example (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/07/21/obama-press-conference-bumped-britains-susan-boyle) of how far the messiah has fallen in stature, he had to bump the time of his press conference tomorrow to accomodate NBC who has a big show with singing sensation Susan Boyle.:lol:
Fox of course will not be carrying the press conference. A wise move.
__________________________________________________ ___
"In another example of Barack Obama's appeal diminishing with the public, the White House was forced to reschedule Wednesday's press conference to 8PM from 9PM as NBC didn't want its summer hit "America's Got Talent" to be pre-empted.
Appearing on Wednesday's program will be an interview with "Britain's Got Talent's" Susan Boyle, who became an international star earlier this year with her miraculous performance of "I Dreamed a Dream" from "Les Miserables."

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/we-love-telly/assets_c/2009/04/susan-boyle-pic-itv-150409-thumb-450x324.jpg

[NJ Stinks]

an example (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/07/21/obama-press-conference-bumped-britains-susan-boyle) of how far the messiah has fallen in stature, he had to bump the time of his press conference tomorrow to accomodate NBC who has a big show with singing sensation Susan Boyle.:lol:
Fox of course will not be carrying the press conference. A wise move.
__________________________________________________ ___
"In another example of Barack Obama's appeal diminishing with the public, the White House was forced to reschedule Wednesday's press conference to 8PM from 9PM as NBC didn't want its summer hit "America's Got Talent" to be pre-empted.
Appearing on Wednesday's program will be an interview with "Britain's Got Talent's" Susan Boyle, who became an international star earlier this year with her miraculous performance of "I Dreamed a Dream" from "Les Miserables."



Murdoch won't broadcast the press conference. Why that's shocking! :rolleyes:

[ArlJim78]

Murdoch won't broadcast the press conference. Why that's shocking! :rolleyes:
shocking? I'd call it smart as the ratings will be better for them if they don't.
you are aware that not all networks covered Bush press conferences either.

Also, with the president publicly trashing Fox news every chance he gets, why should they give him the courtesy?

[NJ Stinks]

shocking? I'd call it smart as the ratings will be better for them if they don't.
you are aware that not all networks covered Bush press conferences either.

Also, with the president publicly trashing Fox news every chance he gets, why should they give him the courtesy?

Yes, I'm aware that all networks did not cover GWB's pc's. But I'll bet FOX covered more of them than any other network.

As an aside, I hate the idea that an Australian (Murdoch) has invested billions to influence American politics. Obviously, he's succeeding with some....

[jballscalls]

Also, with the president publicly trashing Fox news every chance he gets, why should they give him the courtesy?

why would he not trash them?? Beck and Hannity are on a total witch hunt with him. He could cure cancer and they would say it somehow it tinkers with God's law and they would still bash him.

granted they aren't lying about anything their reporting, but they are obviously out to get him out of there, and it's their right to as entertainers, not journalists to do so. Thats why i watch fox, its the most entertaining

[DJofSD]

If the President is really a pathological narcissist as some claim, things are about to get ugly.

I just reread an article by Ali Sina - published prior to the election. I thought it was a little spooky at the time, now it is downright frightening.

I don't know anything about the author or the organization behind the website. They may be the worst kind of radical fringe in existence. What I do know is that some of the stuff he says in this piece seems(to me, at least) to have accurately predicted some of what we have seen between the date of publication and now.

Read and judge for yourself.

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Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

By Ali Sina

2008/09/22



http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

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For additional insight, look at this book (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Narcissism-Epidemic/Jean-M-Twenge/e/9781416575986/?itm=1) .

[ArlJim78]

why would he not trash them?? Beck and Hannity are on a total witch hunt with him. He could cure cancer and they would say it somehow it tinkers with God's law and they would still bash him.

granted they aren't lying about anything their reporting, but they are obviously out to get him out of there, and it's their right to as entertainers, not journalists to do so. Thats why i watch fox, its the most entertaining
umm, because he is the president of the entire country, not only his supporters, and it's not the duty of the president to publicly attack certain people who are exercising the right of dissent.

he shouldn't be so petty, so thin-skinned that he would react to criticism and call out certain people, like he does by mentioning Hannity or Rush by name, that is seriously beneath the presidency. it's not becoming for the president to take sides against certain networks, it makes it look like he is against free speech, which I'm sure he is.

do you remember Bush lashing out at networks, naming people that he felt were out to get him? he had far more material to work with as it was much more than two guys from one news network.

[LottaKash]

If the President is really a pathological narcissist as some claim, things are about to get ugly.


Read and judge for yourself.

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Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

By Ali Sina

2008/09/22



http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

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Yikes, quite an illuminating and insighful article, to be sure.....Especially since it was written before the Election and the ensuing "Hall of Fame" ceremonies....How prophetic, since the reality of it all, is happening right before our very eyes...

It seems we are stuck with a Pathological-Narcissistic leader that has never led anything, but his own self will, and would have others do the same for him, and they are !...."Change has come alright" !...Oh my , hasn't it....?

best,

[Tom]

Yes, I'm aware that all networks did not cover GWB's pc's. But I'll bet FOX covered more of them than any other network.

As an aside, I hate the idea that an Australian (Murdoch) has invested billions to influence American politics. Obviously, he's succeeding with some....

How do you feel about Soros?

[ddog]

On the one hand you have some goofy singer/mental case that is all the rage(i hear) , never seen or heard her and don't intend to waste a second on either and that bumps the step-in-fetch-it clown/mouthpiece/front man for the fascist oligarchy this place has become.


Yet some good men and women are giving their lives for this POS.
I yearn for the day when those few realize they are being played and leave this nuthouse to the rest of you.

To the rest of you who buy this failed crap , it is YOUR fault, no pol, no banker,no scam artist can MAKE you fall for the crap they push in this country.
You chose to believe in "something for nothing".

You chose to believe in free bubble-nomics and those who hyped it.

As to the book, it's good but the problem is a "national ethos of narcissism"
that masquerades as "today's patriotism" that inhibits any type of sustained probing and focus of the problems in the country.

How can it not be so when the vast majority of the under 50 crowd has been brought up within the false constructs outlined in the book?


Voltaire : "Those who can get you to believe absurdities can get you to commit atrocities."

[ArlJim78]

Yes, I'm aware that all networks did not cover GWB's pc's. But I'll bet FOX covered more of them than any other network.

As an aside, I hate the idea that an Australian (Murdoch) has invested billions to influence American politics. Obviously, he's succeeding with some....

dude, are you serious? at least you know who Murdoch is because he own publicly traded companies.

nobody knows who funded Obama, it was all hidden. Soros can be traced to a lot of funding for sure, but I suspect there are other patrons (Saudis?).

but you make me laugh when you express dismay about foreigners like Murdoch influencing things in the US. do you know how much Chinese money the Clintons raked in? please, talk about selective outrage.

[jballscalls]

do you remember Bush lashing out at networks, naming people that he felt were out to get him? he had far more material to work with as it was much more than two guys from one news network.

how come it's Ok around here to bring up the good things Bush did in office, but when someone brings up the bad things he did, the righties all go "Bush is not president anymore" or "dont blame bush" or "we must talk about who's president now"

i always find that amusing. your points above are well taken though Jim, i agree it's not that tactful of Obama to call them out, but both those two are scumbags and if anything, all he's doing is making them more money

[rastajenk]

The point is, he didn't do anything bad. :cool:

[NJ Stinks]

Soros came here to live and work in 1956. Murdoch became a U.S. citizen in 1985 so he could own a TV station here. :rolleyes:

How do I feel about George Soros? The fact that he wanted GWB defeated in 2004 and backed it up with cash makes me think he can't be all bad! :lol:

[JustRalph]

Soros came here to live and work in 1956. Murdoch became a U.S. citizen in 1985 so he could own a TV station here. :rolleyes:

How do I feel about George Soros? The fact that he wanted GWB defeated in 2004 and backed it up with cash makes me think he can't be all bad! :lol:

What are the odds.........he is also a socialist.........admitted by the way

[rastajenk]

Which is to say, he wants socialism for the rest of us, but not for him. Can't imagine him being all right with the rationed benefits of modern society.

[Tom]

Like Congress wants a health care program for us that THEY are not part of.

NJ, that is really weak. You are reaching on that one! :rolleyes:

[ArlJim78]

Soros came here to live and work in 1956. Murdoch became a U.S. citizen in 1985 so he could own a TV station here. :rolleyes:

How do I feel about George Soros? The fact that he wanted GWB defeated in 2004 and backed it up with cash makes me think he can't be all bad! :lol:
yeah it's too bad we didn't get to experience how marvelous a Kerry presidency would have been.:rolleyes:

[NJ Stinks]

yeah it's too bad we didn't get to experience how marvelous a Kerry presidency would have been.:rolleyes:

Don't make me change my avatar again! :mad:

:D

[happy]

Being dyslexic I wondered if BARAK OBAMA was an anagram for OSAMA BIN LADEN?
They both seem to want to f...k America :lol:

[Lefty]

Fox News presents both sides of political arg uments hour after hour and the liberals on this board think that's radical They just hate it when liberal policies are questioned. :bang:

[Lefty]

To continue: Soros funds nothing but liberal organizations and has a so called journalist sitting on several of his boards and the aforementioned libs on this board thinks that's just great.

[PaceAdvantage]

As an aside, I hate the idea that an Australian (Murdoch) has invested billions to influence American politics.You mean, kind of like George Soros? From Hungary?

Funny how on Wikipedia, the first sentence about Soros proclaims him "an American currency speculator."

However, you have to scroll WAY DOWN on the Wiki article about Rupert Murdoch to discover he is an American as well....

Funny how that works...

[NJ Stinks]

You mean, kind of like George Soros? From Hungary?

Funny how on Wikipedia, the first sentence about Soros proclaims him "an American currency speculator."

However, you have to scroll WAY DOWN on the Wiki article about Rupert Murdoch to discover he is an American as well....

Funny how that works...

I already responded to this in Post 18. Tom said it was a weak response. I still think it's relevant.

I guess you missed my response in Post 23 too. :)

[PaceAdvantage]

I already responded to this in Post 18. Tom said it was a weak response. I still think it's relevant.

I guess you missed my response in Post 23 too. :)I have a bad habit of replying to posts as I read them....your idea of reading the entire thread before going back and replying to what I found interesting sort of takes the spontaneity out of things....and thanks for changing your avatar....

[NJ Stinks]

....and thanks for changing your avatar....

I can certainly understand the policy, PA. It's one thing to bust chops down here in Off Topic and another thing to potentially aggravate the vast majority who come this forum to discuss the primary topic - horseracing - and hopefully forget about politics for awhile.

But I have to admit I laughed like a kid today imagining the various reactions to that avatar! :p

[hcap]

:lol: :lol:

After reading this, I couldn't resist:

At six months in office, Obama's 55% approval rating puts him 10th among the 12 post-World War II presidents at this point in their tenures. When he took office, he ranked seventh.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-20-obama-poll-economy_N.htm

I'm sure Hcap will take great offense to this and post a bajillion graphs and charts about Bush, but I thought since Hcap so loves polls (which I have said repeatedly mean nothing to me), I would show him this link as a kind of public service.

If you are to believe polls, they pretty much show that people like Obama personally but don't trust him on much anymore. Not surprising considering he is the most irresponsible President of my lifetime. Maybe he is smart enough politically to do a 180 if he can't jam his agenda through, but I have little faith in that happening.

Anyway, 10th out of 12. Down from 7 out of 12. Maybe it's just because he throws like a girl? :lol:

Come on Obamabots, explain how great the messiah is. :lol:


The previous messiah-your messiah- pretty much at the same point in his presidency.....

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/05/10/cnn.poll/index.html

Honeymoon's over: Bush's approval rating drops

May 10, 2001
Web posted at: 5:46 PM EDT (2146 GMT)

From Keating Holland
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's approval rating has dropped from its honeymoon high amid rising concerns about the country's energy situation, but rising gas prices and West Coast blackouts are not the only reason for the decline in Bush's numbers, according to a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

Bush's job approval stands at 53 percent, compared to 62 percent last month, according to the poll.

At the same time, 58 percent of Americans now say that the energy situation in the country is very serious, a dramatic rise from early March when just 31 percent felt that way. Nearly half say that rising gas prices have hurt their family's finances, and a majority now believes that high gas prices are here to stay.

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Of course a year after 911 your messiah dropped like a stone. Not a "a bajillion graphs", just one.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/zFacts-Bush-approval-rating.gif

Let's see when Obama reaches 25%. If ever. And yes polls do matter at times. All the polls before the 2008 election pointed to the winner-Obama. Bush came into office with a substantial SURPLUS and only a mild recession.
Obama on the other hand has inherited much, much worse.

[hcap]

Obama has dropped. Most presidents do. But, don't look like you guys have picked up the slack.

Washington Post Poll.

Their question about who the public trusts on some key issues:

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/trust.jpg

[LottaKash]

The previous messiah-your messiah- pretty much at the same point in his presidency.....

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Yes, both JO's, imo, GWB just passed the "baton" of destruction" on to the next destroyer of our "old & cherished way of life"...(you know, the one that so many fought and died for)

best,

[Marshall Bennett]

Hcap and many like him keep dwelling on Bush as if he's still president , or perhaps they're simply tossing a blanket over Obama and all the dumb mistakes he's making .

[lsbets]

Hcap is so predictable. I'm not sure if its funny or sad. Whichever, he is also so out of touch with reality its unbelievable, so I guess I lean towards sad.

[DJofSD]

If there were popularity polls for Jesus Christ hcap would publish those too. "See that drop after the Pilot hearings, your leader is toast!"