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JustRalph
07-18-2009, 08:13 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/17/AR2009071702093.html

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What's Next, Mr. President -- Cardigans?
By Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie
Sunday, July 19, 2009

Barely six months into his presidency, Barack Obama seems to be driving south into that political speed trap known as Carter Country: a sad-sack landscape in which every major initiative meets not just with failure but with scorn from political allies and foes alike. According to a July 13 CBS News poll, the once-unassailable president's approval rating now stands at 57 percent, down 11 points from April. Half of Americans think the recession will last an additional two years or more, 52 percent think Obama is trying to "accomplish too much," and 57 percent think the country is on the "wrong track."

From a lousy cap-and-trade bill awaiting death in the Senate to a health-care reform agenda already weak in the knees to the failure of the stimulus to deliver promised jobs and economic activity, what once looked like a hope-tastic juggernaut is showing all the horsepower of a Chevy Cobalt. "Give it to me!" the president egged on a Michigan audience last week, pledging to "solve problems" and not "gripe" about the economic hand he was dealt.

Despite such bravura, Obama must be furtively reviewing the history of recent Democratic administrations for some kind of road map out of his post-100-days ditch.

So far, he seems to be skipping the chapter on Bill Clinton and his generally free-market economic policies and instead flipping back to the themes and comportment of Jimmy Carter. Like the 39th president, Obama has inherited an awful economy, dizzying budget deficits and a geopolitical situation as promising as Kim Jong Il's health. Like Carter, Obama is smart, moralistic and enamored of alternative energy schemes that were nonstarters back when America's best-known peanut farmer was installing solar panels at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Like Carter, Obama faces as much effective opposition from his own party's left wing as he does from an ardent but diminished GOP.

And perhaps most important, as with Carter, his specific policies are genuinely unpopular. The auto bailout -- which, incidentally, is illegal, springing as it has from a fund specifically earmarked for financial institutions -- has been reviled from the get-go, with opposition consistently polling north of 60 percent. Majorities have said no to bank bailouts and to cap and trade if it would make electricity significantly more expensive.



more at the link

Tom
07-18-2009, 11:44 PM
Kudos to Ohio - his rating is under 50% three!
Ohio gets it.

rastajenk
07-19-2009, 09:15 AM
I think we'll always be the swingiest of the swing states.

JustRalph
07-19-2009, 03:37 PM
115 views, only 2 comments............

Somebody is whistling past the graveyard here..............

boxcar
07-19-2009, 04:03 PM
I have BO's number, so this is all old news. He has no interest in getting this economy on track. In fact, just the opposite. He wants to derail it even more to create more "urgent crises" which will demand attention yesterday, and give congress more excuses to pass gazillion-page bills that no one will ever read -- until after the fact.

Furthermore, his Treasury Secretary just [essentially] said last week that this recession is good the country. Well then...if this is so, then how much better would a depression be?

Boxcar

dartman51
07-19-2009, 06:13 PM
I have BO's number, so this is all old news. He has no interest in getting this economy on track. In fact, just the opposite. He wants to derail it even more to create more "urgent crises" which will demand attention yesterday, and give congress more excuses to pass gazillion-page bills that no one will ever read -- until after the fact.

Furthermore, his Treasury Secretary just [essentially] said last week that this recession is good the country. Well then...if this is so, then how much better would a depression be?

Boxcar

And if you recall, in a recent interview, Oblame-a, said the "STIMULUS" package was "working as intended". So I guess he intended for the unemployment to go north of 10%, and the rest of the economy to continue to tank. Is anyone really surprised? The ONLY thing that I am surprised at, is that there are STILL those that defend him, and think he is making the right moves. Unbelieveable! :confused:

BlueShoe
07-19-2009, 07:58 PM
The Washington Post is considered to be far left,and if they are critical that really spells bad new for Obama.If and when the NY Times op ed page starts taking shots,then the Annointed One will know for sure that the rats are deserting the ship.

Tom
07-19-2009, 10:08 PM
It is getting harder and harder for the press to ignore the gross failure that is BO and not look like total morons. BO himself is becoming unglued and showing signs of frustration. His little tirade the other day was hysterical - like a spoiled little brat having a tantrum. :lol::lol::lol:

NJ Stinks
07-20-2009, 12:28 AM
The Washington Post is considered to be far left,and if they are critical that really spells bad new for Obama.If and when the NY Times op ed page starts taking shots,then the Annointed One will know for sure that the rats are deserting the ship.

Only a rightie in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean Ocean would consider the Washington Post to be "far left".

But any independent can tell the New York Post is "far right'.

Track Collector
07-20-2009, 01:18 AM
The Washington Post is considered to be far left,and if they are critical that really spells bad new for Obama.If and when the NY Times op ed page starts taking shots,then the Annointed One will know for sure that the rats are deserting the ship.

Yes, but if you read the whole article you will see that along with their criticism of Obama, they continued to lump the blame along with Bush numerous times. Some things may never change.

ddog
07-20-2009, 10:07 AM
bama is the kid late to the party, all the party people are already drunk and doped out of their minds via years and years of hearing what they wanted to hear and doing what their childish desires demanded and now comes bama with a frosty keg and some premo coke.

the revelers all make some gurgling noises and small protests , but dive right in to the next round.


the post and the other "press" are not even awake anymore, they passed out in a pool of their own vomit long ago.


that ain't whistling you are hearing, that's death rattles.

BlueShoe
07-20-2009, 10:19 AM
Only a rightie in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean Ocean would consider the Washington Post to be "far left".

But any independent can tell the New York Post is "far right'.

There are no "far right" big city newspapers left in the United States,only far left ones.There are a few independent papers in small and medium sized cities that are center right.My local paper,the Orange County Register,is Libertarian,not conservative,but at least it is one of the very few large papers that does not endorse,but vigorously opposes,the wave of socialism and statism that is overwhelming the nation.

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 11:22 AM
My local paper,the Orange County Register,is Libertarian,not conservative,but at least it is one of the very few large papers that does not endorse,but vigorously opposes,the wave of socialism and statism that is overwhelming the nation.
The Register was always a right wing rag: was for years spewing out crap about how great the John Birch society was and the danger of Communism that was never there....What a joke that one is

Tom
07-20-2009, 11:50 AM
Lenin was to the right of you!:D

boxcar
07-20-2009, 11:54 AM
The Register was always a right wing rag: was for years spewing out crap about how great the John Birch society was and the danger of Communism that was never there....What a joke that one is

Wake up, 46er, communism has always been with us. Want proof positive: Look who the country now has for its president. And there's always been and always will be plenty of other "community organizers" ready to step into his shoes when he's gone.

Boxcar

Marshall Bennett
07-20-2009, 12:09 PM
Wake up, 46er, communism has always been with us. Want proof positive: Look who the country now has for its president. And there's always been and always will be plenty of other "community organizers" ready to step into his shoes when he's gone.

Boxcar
Even a communist would say Nancy Pelosi is tilted too far left . :)

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 12:44 PM
Wake up, 46er, communism has always been with us. Want proof positive: Look who the country now has for its president. And there's always been and always will be plenty of other "community organizers" ready to step into his shoes when he's gone.

Boxcar
Old tail Gunner Joe and the cross dresser FBI director never found a one

BlueShoe
07-20-2009, 01:03 PM
The Register was always a right wing rag: was for years spewing out crap about how great the John Birch society was and the danger of Communism that was never there....What a joke that one is

The fact that Zilly blasts this paper certainly means that it is doing something right.More to the point,conservatives,including myself,often have major objections to the OCR's Libertarian positions.As for the JBS,in all the years of reading this paper,cannot recall a single instance of the Society being mentioned.Thats a pity,since I tend to agree with many of their conspiracy theories.

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 01:10 PM
The fact that Zilly blasts this paper certainly means that it is doing something right.More to the point,conservatives,including myself,often have major objections to the OCR's Libertarian positions.As for the JBS,in all the years of reading this paper,cannot recall a single instance of the Society being mentioned.
Johnny Come Lately's have always missed the boat

boxcar
07-20-2009, 01:52 PM
Old tail Gunner Joe and the cross dresser FBI director never found a one

That's 'cause they never looked hard enough or in the right places or chose to ignore what they found.

There are plenty of freedom and capitalism-hating pinko commies in this country. You, zilly, don't have to look any further than in your nearest mirror.

Boxcar

Tom
07-20-2009, 02:04 PM
Johnny Come Lately's have always missed the boat

You've got me on this one......what does the photo have to do with anything????

boxcar
07-20-2009, 03:48 PM
You've got me on this one......what does the photo have to do with anything????

It's a product of his overworked and environmentally unsound imagination.

Boxcar

Marshall Bennett
07-20-2009, 04:13 PM
There are plenty of freedom and capitalism-hating pinko commies in this country. You, zilly, don't have to look any further than in your nearest mirror.

Boxcar
... or if he doesn't use a mirror he could try his own hometown , after-all , he says they join in his opinion that our soldiers who gave their lives in Vietnam were sacrificed for nothing . Typical filth spewed from pinko commie's mouth .

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 04:19 PM
... or if he doesn't use a mirror he could try his own hometown , after-all , he says they join in his opinion that our soldiers who gave their lives in Vietnam were sacrificed for nothing . Typical filth spewed from pinko commie's mouth .

Invade a country in the midst of a civil war ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD and then try to "sell it" as important. Important for the arms dealers who made a lot of money BUT NO ONE ELSE

The war accomplished NOTHING except universal disdain by the rest of the civilized world

BlueShoe
07-20-2009, 05:17 PM
Invade a country in the midst of a civil war ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD

Civil war?Try a war of conquest and invasion and you will get it right.The invading nation,was of course,supported by two totalitarian larger world powers.Bet you still think that Ho Chi Minh was some kind of a hero.Do you still have your "Uncle Ho" posters,or do you prefer the ones with the likeness of the psycopathic one time physician turned killer,Ernesto "Che" Guevara?

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 05:24 PM
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0850869.html

It escalated from a Vietnamese civil war into a limited international conflict in which the United States was deeply involved, and did not end, despite peace agreements in 1973, until North Vietnam's successful offensive in 1975 resulted in South Vietnam's collapse and the unification of Vietnam by the North.

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 05:28 PM
or from another source: "Following the defeat of the French Army at Dien Bien Phu in May 1954 in the First Indo-China War, Vietnam was partitioned at the 17th Parallel. The communist Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam) (DRV) took control in the northern half of the country and the non-communist Republic of Vietnam (RVN) in the south. From the late 1950s, a civil war developed in South Vietnam between the communist supported National Liberation Front (NLF) with its military arm the Viet Cong (VC) and the US backed Government of Ngo Dinh Diem. The war intensified in 1963, following the assassination of Diem and his replacement by a series of unstable ‘revolving door’ governments."

NJ Stinks
07-20-2009, 06:03 PM
There are no "far right" big city newspapers left in the United States,only far left ones.There are a few independent papers in small and medium sized cities that are center right.My local paper,the Orange County Register,is Libertarian,not conservative,but at least it is one of the very few large papers that does not endorse,but vigorously opposes,the wave of socialism and statism that is overwhelming the nation.

Here's the link to today's Opinion page at the NY Post website, BlueShoe. If this paper is not "far right" enough for you, I guess you are right.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/postopinion.htm

Marshall Bennett
07-20-2009, 07:34 PM
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0850869.html

It escalated from a Vietnamese civil war into a limited international conflict in which the United States was deeply involved, and did not end, despite peace agreements in 1973, until North Vietnam's successful offensive in 1975 resulted in South Vietnam's collapse and the unification of Vietnam by the North.
In the end , Vietnam brought closure to the massive expansion of communism . We didn't win a war but we stood strong and made it clear that their desire to conquer wasn't worth the price . Vietnam was a symbol to the free world that at last they could be assured these tyrants would try no more . While you zilly feel our soldiers died for nothing , there are many more elsewhere they know they didn't . The history is plain and simple , you're simply to hard-headed to read into it . Either that or you are indeed a " commie pinko " .

boxcar
07-20-2009, 07:35 PM
Here's the link to today's Opinion page at the NY Post website, BlueShoe. If this paper is not "far right" enough for you, I guess you are right.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/postopinion.htm

Hey, Silly (I mean zilly), what part of this letter to the post did you disagree with?

SICKENING HEALTH-CARE RX: SAY GOODBYE TO FREEDOM

Zil, the last time I asked you a question that required thought on your part, you kept your mouth shut and fingers snappin' instead of typin'. Now, I know why you're a statist: Evidently, you're not capable of thinking for yourself, which explains why you want the state to do it for you. You' re the type of person Larry King alluded to several months back when he essentially said (in so many words) that the government needs to do the thinking for us because if the government doesn't, then who will?

So, prove me wrong. Tell me why you disagree with above cited letter. Tell me why you think that the message conveyed therein amounts to right wing extremism.

Boxcar

46zilzal
07-20-2009, 09:56 PM
So, prove me wrong. Tell me why you disagree with above cited letter. Tell me why you think that the message conveyed therein amounts to right wing extremism.

I wouldn't waste my time

Warren Henry
07-20-2009, 10:02 PM
I wouldn't waste my time
46 is pretty good at spouting his BS and claiming it to be fact, but pretty poor at specific challenges.

boxcar
07-20-2009, 10:16 PM
I wouldn't waste my time

That's funny, silly, 'cause a mind-numbed robot has nothing but time to waste.
You really do need the state to take care of you!

Boxcar

JustRalph
07-21-2009, 04:34 AM
Wow..........another good thread left Stained by the Mad Doctor............

shut it down PA........no reason to leave it open

nobody is talking about the topic anymore