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cosmo96
06-14-2009, 04:23 PM
I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?

Joey D
06-14-2009, 04:32 PM
I have had that same experience especially when I'm competing in a tournament here in Vegas. If I am not contending, I will usually root for the guys and girls around me if they have a chance. It's just good sportsmanship and good Karma. Why be a hater?

dutchboy
06-14-2009, 04:51 PM
How did they know you were doing well?

I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?

andymays
06-14-2009, 04:57 PM
I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?

Getting pissed when someone wins is one of the worst qualities any gambler can have.

There's no reason for it unless you were getting in their face or something like that.

Stay away from them next time!

slew101
06-14-2009, 04:57 PM
Nothing wrong with verbally rooting your horse home. Unless you were saying "I'm a winner, boys, how'd you do?" I'd say they should not be upset. At the track and OTB, just about everyone is cheering in the stretch.

Tom
06-14-2009, 05:04 PM
Break dancing and chugging a beer every time you hit a winner might tend to alienate you! So ill giving the guy in front of you a noogie. ;)

DeanT
06-14-2009, 05:04 PM
Some horseplayers are well, stereotypical horseplayers....

I just finished teh new Dave Nevison book about betting in the UK. He always has some good stories. One of which........ a player is relieving himself at a bar parking lot after the races. He is a little snapped. A cop comes and tells him to stop. He decides to make a joke about spreading anthrax. So, after he is arrested he is dropping his belongings in a box. Out pops out of his pocket is a wad of bills. He decides to say to the cops all around him "take a look at that boys.... more than all you slobs make in three months."

So, sometimes horseplayers are an interesting lot :)

Imriledup
06-14-2009, 05:22 PM
Its fairly simple, people don't want other people to succeed. This is how losing players measure themselves against the pack, they feel that losing is acceptable if everyone else loses too....so, when someone wins, they don't like it, it makes them feel bad about themselves.

BillW
06-14-2009, 05:34 PM
Sounds like the bar scene in the movie "Let It Ride" :D

toussaud
06-14-2009, 06:08 PM
that is life

the only difference between when you are up anddown are the people who talk about you.

when you are down, people who are up talk about you ecuase you suck

when you are up, people who are down talk about you becuase you ovbiusly think you are better than everyone else

deal with it.

Tom
06-14-2009, 06:21 PM
I gotta admit, back in the day, when I used to go to the track every weekends with my buddies, me winning was as satisfying as them losing!
:blush:

CryingForTheHorses
06-14-2009, 07:12 PM
I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?

You get the same thing from the guys that finish second in a race,Geeze lots of them hang their heads when they get beat in a race. In this game Im always thankful of what purse money I get as its very hard to win.

toussaud
06-14-2009, 07:30 PM
i'm remindd of the scene in le it ride when the guy goes aroundand asks everyone who their pick for the race is and he crosses them out, and picks the1 horse no one mentioned, and he wins and everyone in the room gets pitch quiet and gets mad at him for not giving them a tip. like they would have listened in the first place, including the guy who was bragging about how much money he had.

that's horse racing.

Marshall Bennett
06-14-2009, 07:36 PM
Its fairly simple, people don't want other people to succeed. This is how losing players measure themselves against the pack, they feel that losing is acceptable if everyone else loses too....so, when someone wins, they don't like it, it makes them feel bad about themselves.
Yeah ... misery loves company . :)

WinterTriangle
06-14-2009, 09:58 PM
Has anyone else had this experience?

You must have not noticed some of the, um...invectives against "everything MTB" after he won the Derby.

It was sort of obvious that most people didn't "win" on him. :lol:

I love it when people win stuff. Even strangers.

I do admit to being "somewhat annoyed" when my boss won the LOTTO...over a million........twice. Considering he was already a millionaire before he won either. :eek: I'm only human. :blush:

fmolf
06-15-2009, 10:11 AM
You must have not noticed some of the, um...invectives against "everything MTB" after he won the Derby.

It was sort of obvious that most people didn't "win" on him. :lol:

I love it when people win stuff. Even strangers.

I do admit to being "somewhat annoyed" when my boss won the LOTTO...over a million........twice. Considering he was already a millionaire before he won either. :eek: I'm only human. :blush:
i love to be at the track and listen to people win.... i root my horses home as well and is part of the racetrack experience... anyone who gets angry over someone elses good fortune iseather jealous a bad handicapper or both in my opinion...although some people do celebrate in an annoying and excessive manner they are few and far between.. i have found most people at belmont to be gracious winners

jballscalls
06-15-2009, 11:06 AM
I don't ever begrudge anyone winning at the track, however there is nothing more annoying than the guy who feels the need to actually pull out his ticket and put in your face to show how great he is. so i guess i do begrudge those types of folks LOL

DeanT
06-15-2009, 11:09 AM
I would submit that the correlation between guys who shove winning tickets in your face is inversely related to long term winning.

46zilzal
06-15-2009, 11:10 AM
Just yesterday we had a clown, DRUNK as usual, yelling that the races were fixed and all the horses were on dope....Security was just about ready to show him the door until he won the nightcap on a 5/2 runaway winner.

onefast99
06-15-2009, 11:58 AM
You get the same thing from the guys that finish second in a race,Geeze lots of them hang their heads when they get beat in a race. In this game Im always thankful of what purse money I get as its very hard to win.
Well said!

rokitman
06-15-2009, 01:11 PM
I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?
That's not just a racetrack phenomenom. There is a whole world full of losers doing some version of this. They're just usually doing it behind your back.

Robert Fischer
06-15-2009, 01:55 PM
I remember hitting a big one earlier this year and having an "enthusiastic response".

A couple of looonnngshots and I didn't realize in the moment but the OTB was pretty much silent other than myself (because everybody bets favorites)

I happen to look out towards the door to the section with the tellers and my eyes meet a pair of very unfriendly eyes... Have to admit I had a few worries about safely getting to the parking lot.

1st time lasix
06-15-2009, 03:00 PM
only three types in the club house of my simulcast venue ever irk me.....1] the guy that loudly screams at the tv monitor for an "odds on" 3 to 5 shot to win. ....2} the drunk idiot who screams at the monitor for any horse to break a leg or get hurt.....3} the regular who constantly likes to hear himself all the time with any thought that goes through his head. You know---the guy that never ever shuts up...... and thinks all the races are fixed. Never been upset at anyone getting excited for a winner....like I said.... unless it is chalk over chalk. On Sunday I needed a 2-1 shot to win the final leg of a pick 3 that paid $550 at Churchill. I had it three times for a very modest outlay and still found a way to not cheer him home out loud. Bit my tongue to screem "wire" as he was almost caught in the last 100 yards. :ThmbUp: I find that handicapping process thoughtful and challenging...... dealing with self centered jerks who want to be the center of attention breaks my concentration/focus.

Sid
06-15-2009, 03:41 PM
Annoying blather abounds at the track, from winners and losers alike. At least I find a lot of it annoying.

Most of the annoying types are either seriously clueless or no more than 10 percent as sage as they think they are. On days when I lose my ass and I am walking out the door beside a clueless type who has added two house payments to his wallet while I emptied mine, I find that to be a very useful experience (and if you have never had that experience, you either are better than any horseplayer I ever met or are lying).

The reason I find it useful is that few other experiences at the track are such excellent teachers of humility, which is not just a virtue (who needs virtue?) but an important part of a horseplayer's tool kit. Reminding oneself, on such days, exactly who beat you and sent you to Mickey D's on the way home helps keep reality in play.

andymays
06-15-2009, 04:06 PM
Annoying blather abounds at the track, from winners and losers alike. At least I find a lot of it annoying.

Most of the annoying types are either seriously clueless or no more than 10 percent as sage as they think they are. On days when I lose my ass and I am walking out the door beside a clueless type who has added two house payments to his wallet while I emptied mine, I find that to be a very useful experience (and if you have never had that experience, you either are better than any horseplayer I ever met or are lying).

The reason I find it useful is that few other experiences at the track are such excellent teachers of humility, which is not just a virtue (who needs virtue?) but an important part of a horseplayer's tool kit. Reminding oneself, on such days, exactly who beat you and sent you to Mickey D's on the way home helps keep reality in play.


Going through the ash tray for enough quarters to get a couple of cheesburgers on the way home has happened to most of us at one time or another!

Sid
06-15-2009, 04:09 PM
Going through the ash tray for enough quarters to get a couple of cheesburgers on the way home has happened to most of us at one time or another!
If you're Detroiter playing at Windsor Raceway, it's always best to leave enough for bridge toll in your glove box. Damned embarrassing to be stranded in another country because you tried to beat the chalk in the getaway race.

andymays
06-15-2009, 04:14 PM
If you're Detroiter playing at Windsor Raceway, it's always best to leave enough for bridge toll in your glove box. Damned embarrassing to be stranded in another country because you tried to beat the chalk in the getaway race.


Or in my younger days being in Tijuana at Agua Caliente and having enough for a taxi to the border and enough to get out of the parking lot on the other side! By the way there's a McDonalds about 50 feet after crossing into the U.S.!

fmolf
06-15-2009, 04:58 PM
the guy i dislike the most is the gent that always feels the need to yell to anyone within earshot why a particular horse won after the race and then complains that his horse was either doped held back or fouled! and that he should have had the winner! :bang:

CryingForTheHorses
06-15-2009, 07:28 PM
I went to the GP casino last winter and was playing this slot machine to the tune of 100 bucks with no luck...I gaveup on that machine and moved two machines over...Lo and behold,A little old lady sat at my old machine and played for 5 mins and hit for 500 bucks...YES I was resentfull...

Marshall Bennett
06-15-2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah , you see it in casinos more than anywhere . The person next to you on a slot machine is more concerned with what you're doing than themselves . Someone at the blackjack table does the unexpected so when others bust or lose they blame it on him for taking cards . You see it everywhere .

dutchboy
06-15-2009, 08:25 PM
I think there was a news story a few years ago about someone at Hollywood or Santa Anita who wins the pick 6 and insists on taking it in cash and making a scene about all of the money he won. He was followed out of the track and killed and robbed as he was driving down the street a few blocks away from the track.

People who win at the track or casino and are followed home and robbed seems to occur fairly often.

onefast99
06-15-2009, 09:10 PM
I think there was a news story a few years ago about someone at Hollywood or Santa Anita who wins the pick 6 and insists on taking it in cash and making a scene about all of the money he won. He was followed out of the track and killed and robbed as he was driving down the street a few blocks away from the track.

People who win at the track or casino and are followed home and robbed seems to occur fairly often.
So he should of taken the check or he should of kept his mouth shut which one? Or both? Many people brag about winning at both the track and casinos if you win a substantial amount there is no need to tell the whole world especially in this economic climate.

The Judge
06-15-2009, 09:28 PM
if the game is fixed and you are winning you must be "lucky" or "in on the fix". If you are "in on the fix" then you are not sharing the inside information with the drunks and the hard knock crowd. It can't be because of hard work and skill that you are winning. So you are having all the luck and they are unlucky or you are cheating/unfair advanage. Either way you deserve no respect.

Off course some people are just nasty and thats the only explanation.

how cliche
06-15-2009, 10:36 PM
The fellows who get my blood boiling are the jockey bashers. You know who you are.

Robert Fischer
06-15-2009, 10:41 PM
it can be tough with friend or family member that isn't winning.

CincyHorseplayer
06-15-2009, 10:41 PM
I love to see other people win even if I'm not.Especially if it's a familiar face but we don't talk much.Always quick with the high five or something etc!!Enthusiasm for the game and winning is contagious.If somebody is on a role I'm rooting for them and me.I can't stand the bitterness but it sure is amusing.Two goals at the track that should be universal IMO=fun and win,in that order.One is usually a given,the other is attainable.

If not why even go??

macguy
06-15-2009, 11:03 PM
If I'm not winning I generally don't say much...

But it's just so much more fun if you've bet a horse and it's rating in last place, and it's slowly creeping up on the field, even better if the horse is going super wide and gaining on the entire field down the stretch.

I'll yell my ass of in the grandstand if that's what it takes for the horse to get home. Thankfully, for the people around me, my horses don't usually seem to be in contention. :D

BlueShoe
06-15-2009, 11:42 PM
The resentful player is so commonplace that no longer pay any attention to it.It is human nature;these guys have the attitude that says,in effect,if I cant win then I dont want anyone else to win either.On the occsions that I have been alive in the last leg of a pick 3 or pick 4 with the race singled,have actually had a few of these cretins root against my horse and have a smile on their face after it gets beat.These types I want to punch,and now avoid them and only confide in close associates what I have going.

onefast99
06-16-2009, 09:16 AM
I went to the GP casino last winter and was playing this slot machine to the tune of 100 bucks with no luck...I gaveup on that machine and moved two machines over...Lo and behold,A little old lady sat at my old machine and played for 5 mins and hit for 500 bucks...YES I was resentfull...
My son likes the scratch off game where you have to "beat the dealer" when I buy lottery tickets I get one or two for him, last month I went to buy the mega millions but didn't get the scratch offs right away, a woman comes in after me and grabs 5 of the beat the dealer game, she hits the 2nd one for 10k I wasn't the least bit resentful, right.

fmolf
06-16-2009, 09:51 AM
their are rude people in every walk of life...knowing how to avoid them is a skill and an art.....i really hate when i am playing black jack and get accused by others at the table of taking the dealers bust card when i was playing my hand by the %'s.....i just tell them to be quiet and play their own hands....most of those loudmouths know nothing about odds....percentages or what is the right move to make in blackjack!

DanG
06-16-2009, 09:53 AM
“Never associate with people who don’t want to see you win”

We’ve all heard this and someone told me this many, many years ago and it is the gospel truth. There is jealousy in virtually every line of work and it can be rampant in gambling. A % of your success is directly attributable to the persons failure who is watching you cash.

Speaking of racetrack code: If you do attend the races with people outside the life and tout them into profit…they must pick up the dinner check or they reserve an infamous wing in the racing hall of shame.

thespaah
06-16-2009, 10:58 PM
I had a real good day at River Downs Saturday. I played Churchill, Louisiana Downs, and River Downs, plus spot bets. I had a great ROI at all three tracks. I noticed Saturday and other times as well, when I have done well people around me resent it. I've gotten dirty looks and heard snide remarks. I don't brag or rub it in. I guess it doesn't matter, but people are funny. Has anyone else had this experience?
I am just the opposite.
If I am having a bad day and someone in my group hits, I am happy for them. I feel the same way about a perfect stranger who may be nearby when he/she wins.

thespaah
06-16-2009, 11:21 PM
Yeah , you see it in casinos more than anywhere . The person next to you on a slot machine is more concerned with what you're doing than themselves . Someone at the blackjack table does the unexpected so when others bust or lose they blame it on him for taking cards . You see it everywhere .there is a basic strategy to blacjack.
Now some experts do not buy into the "third base theory".
That is the hand can be screwed by a poor player who is last to act before the dealer. For example a player with a soft 19 or 20 who takes a hit when the dealer has a 3,4,5 or 6 showing.
Some casinos do not allow new players to begin play until the shoe is complete.

Hajck Hillstrom
06-17-2009, 02:40 AM
...but not at the track, as I seriously worry about the individual's safety. Few things get me pumped up like a detailed description of what it took to land a really big trout.... like about 6 figs worth. Rarefied air. Ten stacks o' high society or more. Love hearing these stories, and love reading about them even more. Is there a greater motivation in this game? Unless maybe the Robin Hood syndrome where the life changing score was accomplished on a tiny cost effective ticket.

Shelby
06-17-2009, 01:44 PM
You must have not noticed some of the, um...invectives against "everything MTB" after he won the Derby.

It was sort of obvious that most people didn't "win" on him. :lol:

I love it when people win stuff. Even strangers.

I do admit to being "somewhat annoyed" when my boss won the LOTTO...over a million........twice. Considering he was already a millionaire before he won either. :eek: I'm only human. :blush:

Is he single?



Wait, I'm married.

Never mind


:lol: