Why MTB was gelded

[jognlope]

Little nugget from A. Brown:

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/28/this-morning-at-woodbine-racet/

[Bettowin]

Little nugget from A. Brown:

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/28/this-morning-at-woodbine-racet/


And two little nuggets from MTB :)

[bishlap]

:ThmbUp: And two little nuggets from MTB :)
ouch LoL LoL

[Greyfox]

To be of value a race horse has to win races.
A colt is of no value if he can't train, run, and learn to race.
The decision to geld comes off their behavior.
Once that decision and action is taken, there is no use looking back in the rear view mirror.
In this instance, MTB was a $ 9500 purchase. Obviously they had no idea how far he'd develop. Then if he wasn't gelded, maybe he wouldn't have won either.
I've seen colts that were bought for hundreds of thousands of dollars at auction and then later gelded.
That's always a puzzle to me, but they're of no value in the breeding shed if they don't win races.

[macguy]

To be of value a race horse has to win races.
A colt is of no value if he can't train, run, and learn to race.
The decision to geld comes off their behavior.
Once that decision and action is taken, there is no use looking back in the rear view mirror.
In this instance, MTB was a $ 9500 purchase. Obviously they had no idea how far he'd develop. Then if he wasn't gelded, maybe he wouldn't have won either.
I've seen colts that were bought for hundreds of thousands of dollars at auction and then later gelded.
That's always a puzzle to me, but they're of no value in the breeding shed if they don't win races.


It shouldn't be a puzzle for you, you answered your own question.
John Henry was a good example.
There's no point in keeping a colt if it's so high strung that it can't be trained properly and brought to the races.

To tell you the truth, I really think it's unfair to keep colts around (assuming they really have no stud value). I can only imagine their frustrations seeing filly after filly parading by the stall, and not being able to do anything about it.

Gelding in general is just better for everyone involved, IMHO.

[Greyfox]

It shouldn't be a puzzle for you, you answered your own question.
John Henry was a good example.
There's no point in keeping a colt if it's so high strung that it can't be trained properly and brought to the races.

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Yes, I know I answered it. But if I invested hundreds of thousands in a colt, I would wait until well into the 3 rd year before even considering such a move.
Funny Cide was also in the same state.
The puzzle is not that they do it. It's that ...ah nuts..."They're off."

[Dave Schwartz]

I have always felt that gelding could be all but eliminated if what was about to happen could be conveyed to the horse.

:eek:

[MNslappy]

I have always felt that gelding could be all but eliminated if what was about to happen could be conveyed to the horse.

:eek:

I dont know. Plenty of women have told me they were gonna chop mine off too, but it hasn't really changed my behavior much.

[joanied]

I have several good things I'd love to say...all in jest...but better not (XXX :eek: :D )...
but, they gelded MTB because they couldn't do a thing with him...they said as soon as the stall door opened, he'd be on his hind legs...he was very, very studdish....sorta like some of you guys;)

[Brogan]

One thing I feel some of you don't grasp...when a colt is acting "studdish" he's downright dangerous to be around.

Its a quick and easy decision to geld when the colt is of modest breeding. Its a little more difficult when they have top notch bloodlines.

[DerbyTrail]

Story and more about his breaking was told weeks ago in the Toronto Star...

Horse goes from troublemaker to moneymaker

Jennifer Morrison
SPECAL TO THE STAR

http://www.thestar.com/sports/horseracing/article/632694

Gemini and Paul Caine have no trouble recalling the seven months Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird spent at their Pine Valley Training Centre in Maple, just north of Toronto.
How could they forget it? It started as a kicking, leaping, biting nightmare.

[jognlope]

They can act studdish even after "clipping." Chasing mares, acting bullish.

[Shelby]

And two little nuggets from MTB :)

OMG :lol::lol::lol:

[Fingal]

I have always felt that gelding could be all but eliminated if what was about to happen could be conveyed to the horse.

:eek:

Paging Mr. Ed, paging a Mr. Ed, Mr. Ed to the White Courtesy Phone...............

[dartman51]

I dont know. Plenty of women have told me they were gonna chop mine off too, but it hasn't really changed my behavior much.

Age will take care of that for you sooner or later........no, wait, there's always Viagra. :D