GRAVEYARD OF FAVORITES

[IRISHLADSTABLE]

YEAR FAVORITE ODDS FINISH WINNER

2003 EMPIRE MAKER 7-5 ? ?

2002 HARLAN'S HOLIDAY 6-1 7TH WAR EMBLEM

2001 POINT GIVEN 9-5 5TH MONARCHOS

2000 FUSAICHI PEGASUS 2-1 1ST FUSAICHI PEGASUS

1999 EXCELLENT MEETING 9-2 5TH CHARISMATIC

1998 INDIAN CHARLIE 5-2 3RD REAL QUIET

1997 CAPTAIN BODGIT 3-1 2ND SILVER CHARM

1996 UNBRIDLED'S SONG 7-2 5TH GRINDSTONE

1995 TIMBER COUNTRY 3-1 3RD THUNDER GULCH

1994 HOLY BULL 2-1 12TH GO FOR GIN

1993 PRAIRIE BAYOU 4-1 2ND SEA HERO

1992 ARAZI 4-5 8TH LIL E TEE

1991 HANSEL 5-2 10TH STRIKE THE GOLD

1990 MISTER FRISKY 9-5 8TH UNBRIDLED

1989 EASY GOER 4-5 2ND SUNDAY SILENCE

1988 PRIVATE TERMS 3-1 9TH WINNING COLORS

1987 DEMONS BEGONE 2-1 EASED ALYSHEBA

1986 SNOW CHIEF 2-1 11TH FERDINAND

1985 CHIEF'S CROWN 6-5 3RD SPEND A BUCK

1984 LIFE'S MAGIC 5-2 8TH SWALE

1983 MARFA 2-1 5TH SUNNY'S HALO

1982 AIR FORBES WON 5-2 7TH GATO DEL SOL

1981 PROUD APPEAL 2-1 18TH PLEASANT COLONY

1980 ROCKHILL NATIVE 2-1 5TH GENUINE RISK

1979 SPECTACULAR BID 3-5 1ST SPECTACULAR BID

JIMMY /ILS

[ceejay]

The Median "winning betting choice" of the ones you listed was 5th. That's also the mode.

[Tom]

The one race that probably has the absolute most information available to everyone, and the public's performance in betting it is just terrible. I have made my biggest killings on this race over the years ( not the last couple, though) by using dossage and Beyer numbers in graded stakes at at least a mile and a sixteenth.
Pace figures have actually worsened my performance. I don't want to know about workouts.
This weekend, if nothing else, I will consume far too many mint juleps and apologize now for anything I may post after after the race (hehehe - kidding, PA).

[Rpd]

Tom,

Just curious :D

Who is your pick for last this year?

:rolleyes:

[Kentucky Bred]

...not to get caught up in the hype.

Kentucky Bred

[Tom]

Originally posted by Rpd
Tom,

Just curious :D

Who is your pick for last this year?

:rolleyes:

Hmmmm. They never forget! :rolleyes:

OK....I'll take Peace Rules to bring up the rear.
I'll hold off on the beaten lengths for now.

[Observer]

Jimmy:

Let me start off by saying that's a pretty nice list you've put together for us .. thanks for taking the time. I do think there were a couple of years that the favorite was a coupled entry .. like I believe Excellent Meeting in 1999 was part of an entry for Baffert, and I believe in 1984 Life's Magic was part of an entry from Lukas. And I think in 1995 Timber Country was also part of a Lukas-trained entry. I'll see if I can do some research on this.

[plainolebill]

Originally posted by Tom@HTR
Hmmmm. They never forget! :rolleyes:

OK....I'll take Peace Rules to bring up the rear.
I'll hold off on the beaten lengths for now.

How 'bout Domestic Dispute, going from Baffert to Gallagher's barn is probably pretty depressing. Like moving from Beverly Hills to Cleveland. Probably took his sun glasses away. :cool:

[Rpd]

Thanks Tom!

I hope you know I was just kidding! :)

Steve

[WINMANWIN]

Originally posted by Observer
Jimmy:

Let me start off by saying that's a pretty nice list you've put together for us .. thanks for taking the time. I do think there were a couple of years that the favorite was a coupled entry .. like I believe Excellent Meeting in 1999 was part of an entry for Baffert, and I believe in 1984 Life's Magic was part of an entry from Lukas. And I think in 1995 Timber Country was also part of a Lukas-trained entry. I'll see if I can do some research on this.

I dont believe thats the case with any of the above. I remember
cause I bet the other half of the UnCoupled entry. It may be in 84
but the Baffert/Lukas colts were UNCOUPLED to my knowledge.:mad:

[Observer]

In 1999 filly Excellent Meeting was coupled with General Challenge

In 1995 Timber Country was coupled with filly Serena's Song

In 1984 filly Life's Magic was coupled with filly Althea

The following link is pretty interesting, and in it you will see notations for the couplings I have given above.

Derby Info (http://thoroughbredchampions.com/library/kyderby.htm)

[Observer]

My time ran out on editing ... so just to add to my previous post ..

WINMANWIN .. to clarify .. Lukas did start winner Thunder Gulch in 1995, who was not part of the Timber Country-Serena's Song coupling. In 1999, Baffert's Prime Timber was not part of the Excellent Meeting-General Challenge coupling.

Oh, and one more thing .. Easy Goer-Awe Inspiring were coupled in 1989 .. Marfa-Balboa Native in 1983 .. Proud Appeal-Golden Derby in 1981

[PaceAdvantage]

I increased the editing time to 10 minutes......