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DeanT
04-22-2009, 11:04 PM
Thanks to everyone for their comments. We have some excellent members.

Here is an email we sent out tonight. Thanks again everyone.

We would like to take a moment to update you on a couple of things this week.

First, last week we had decided to pick Turf Paradise as this weeks race to bet into. We have been doing some good with the wager, thanks to all of you, and we thought it was a perfect time to play Turf Paradise and highlight a couple of issues. These were mainly the Arizona ADW law which makes it a felony to accept internet bets from Arizona, which some horseman, and most bettors find insulting and exactly the opposite of what we should be doing.

However, after we announced the play, members spoke loud and clear – they wanted nothing to do with Arizona as a target. The negative comments were very strong, and players cited both the Arizona Law and the high takeouts at Turf as the main reasons. So we announce we will not be playing Turf Paradise this weekend as planned.

We are happy to say that we are moving this Saturday’s race to Hawthorne Race Course – Race 6. Expect free past performances, thorograph sheets, pacefigures, and more as usual.

Last, Jeff Platt HANA President was interviewed this weekend by Todd and Matt on TVG while at Keeneland. We have the video for those who missed it on the blog here.

http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/04/jeff-platts-hana-interview-on-tvg.html

As always, thanks very much for your support.

Your HANA Team: Jeff, Dean, Bill, Theresia and John

chickenhead
04-22-2009, 11:16 PM
Choosing them, and then having to change due to widespread player disgust probably highlights the issues at hand better than anything else could have -- it's certainly ends up being a stronger message than just not selecting them in the first place. It makes for a fairly compelling story. Maybe Paulick could pick it up.

Indulto
04-22-2009, 11:24 PM
Excellent decision! Good display of flexibility by HANA leadership and, as chick said, an opportunity for greater positive exposure. :ThmbUp:

RichieP
04-22-2009, 11:29 PM
I'll be there with bells on and will do my best to bring friends! :)

rwwupl
04-22-2009, 11:31 PM
Add my vote for a good decision :cool:

CBedo
04-22-2009, 11:50 PM
Thanks for listenint to my rants Dean. I realize this is all a work in progress. I'm in this weekend!

DeanT
04-22-2009, 11:53 PM
Thanks for listenint to my rants Dean.

I agreed with your rants, I just could not say so :)

Keep em coming!

InsideThePylons-MW
04-23-2009, 01:39 AM
When I saw the higher-ups at HANA had picked TuP, my first thought was that they are now qualified to become racetrack executives.

rrbauer
04-23-2009, 04:40 PM
Stuff happens. Good call to move the venue.

RichieP
04-24-2009, 12:08 PM
I'll be there with bells on and will do my best to bring friends! :)

I will be on the maiden :eek: #9 Cumulonimble in some way/shape/form.
The#10 Happy Henrietta runs sharp off extended layoffs also

Best of luck to all and enjoy the weekend. Gorgeous here in the Big Apple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io0uqrp9dco

GaryG
04-24-2009, 12:21 PM
I will be on the maiden :eek: #9 Cumulonimble in some way/shape/form.
The#10 Happy Henrietta runs sharp off extended layoffs alsoRichie, I will be all over Cumulonimble as well. Also #2 Miss Fontana could come up big off the layoff for Divito. Won her debut and working quite well.

DeanT
04-24-2009, 01:09 PM
Jim Miller Hawthorne Picks on the blog here:

http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/04/platt-letter-to-chrb-and-miller.html

Imriledup
04-24-2009, 10:24 PM
What pool? Exactas? Win?

BillW
04-24-2009, 10:28 PM
What pool? Exactas? Win?

Player's choice. Hit it where ever you wish.

DJofSD
04-24-2009, 10:44 PM
Jeff, excellent job during the TVG interview. Not every one could speak in a relaxed manner, keeping on point without going overboard. You represented both yourself and HANA is a highly professional manner.

RichieP
04-25-2009, 07:33 AM
Richie, I will be all over Cumulonimble as well. Also #2 Miss Fontana could come up big off the layoff for Divito. Won her debut and working quite well.

We have to meet up someday so I can trade you some of Aunt Rosie's homemade lasagna and Barolo for your sweet muffins and moonshine.

Keep rocking G! :)

Imriledup
04-25-2009, 02:38 PM
Player's choice. Hit it where ever you wish.

Gotcha. I'm in.

miesque
04-25-2009, 02:42 PM
This is a nice little betting race, full field of 11 and no scratches (at least as of the first Changes list posted on the Hawthorne site) and there are a lot of different ways you can go here. I ended up not using the horses coming off layoff with the exception of #2. I don't have a very strong opinion about this race and as such in the end was only able to pair it down to 5 horses, :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: . Normally I would take a pass since I don't have even close to a strong opinion but since I am playing the basic strategy is to throw a cast wide net and hope to snag some prices. The bets I have already placed since I don't know if I will be on a computer at racetime are as follows:

$1 Exacta Box :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: = $20

$1 Trifecta Box :1: :3: :6: :7: =$24

Dime Super Box :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: = $12

Total Bet = $56

If I had to select only one horse to win it would be :7: Bow Tie Pasta.

Good Luck Everybody!

CBedo
04-25-2009, 03:34 PM
I'll be using the maiden :9: keyed with :3::4::7: & probably :10::2:in some fashion. Keyed in all three spots with all five is $60 for a the $1 trifecta.

GaryG
04-25-2009, 03:37 PM
I am betting #9 win and place and exactas with 2 and 10.

Red Knave
04-25-2009, 04:12 PM
Today's bets are listed below
Bet Type Amount Horse# Total
TRI $1.00 - 3,4 / 3,4,6,7 / 3,4,6,7,9,10 --- $24.00
EX Box $1.00 - 3,4,6,7 --- $12.00
WIN $10.00 - 3,4 --- $20.00

DeanT
04-25-2009, 04:50 PM
I think I am going 7-4-a and 7-a-4 in supers and tris.

BUD
04-25-2009, 05:46 PM
im in---Thanks Bombs he emailed me in time----Super sick today---ms and heat dont mix well at all----

Cangamble
04-25-2009, 05:46 PM
:2::10::1::9: Had to eliminate a few contenders to come up with this batch.

Hajck Hillstrom
04-25-2009, 05:47 PM
$1 Exacta box :11: with ALL
$.10 Superfecta :7::9::10: / :7::9::10::11: / ALL / :1::2::3::7::9::10::11:
$1 Pik3 :7::9: / :6: / :1::5:

Swinging for the fences coming off the bench with my parlay from last week's winnings.

Hajck Hillstrom
04-25-2009, 06:00 PM
This is a nice little betting race, full field of 11 and no scratches (at least as of the first Changes list posted on the Hawthorne site) and there are a lot of different ways you can go here. I ended up not using the horses coming off layoff with the exception of #2. I don't have a very strong opinion about this race and as such in the end was only able to pair it down to 5 horses, :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: . Normally I would take a pass since I don't have even close to a strong opinion but since I am playing the basic strategy is to throw a cast wide net and hope to snag some prices. The bets I have already placed since I don't know if I will be on a computer at racetime are as follows:

$1 Exacta Box :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: = $20

$1 Trifecta Box :1: :3: :6: :7: =$24

Dime Super Box :1: :2: :3: :6: :7: = $12

Total Bet = $56

If I had to select only one horse to win it would be :7: Bow Tie Pasta.

Good Luck Everybody!

I hope you got down! Nicely done! A profit of over $400!

DeanT
04-25-2009, 06:00 PM
if they throw out the second, third, fourth and fifth place finishers I have this superfecta! :cool:

Man, wild angle on the head on there with the outrider trying to catch the nine horse. No dice, not even close. Poor outriding horse cant go like them.

miesque
04-25-2009, 06:03 PM
I hope you got down! Nicely done!

Thanks Hajck! I did actually get to watch the race and needless to say I am pretty satisfied with the results having all three of my bets come in as winners :cool:

DeanT
04-25-2009, 06:03 PM
Good job Theresia!!!! Imagine if you would have liked the race :)

BUD
04-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Thanks God my wife was born on the 7th--the win Wager covered the losers----Glad they mentioned us-----Back to bathing in ice---Thanks BoB--& Sire---&-Always JM.

miesque
04-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Seriously, then at least I would have hit the Super for more then a dime :D

BillW
04-25-2009, 06:06 PM
Way to go T. - I was half right :rolleyes:

DeanT
04-25-2009, 06:07 PM
400k pool there. Very large.

BillW
04-25-2009, 06:16 PM
Avg. per race last 16 mos.: $268K
Avg. Saturdays last 16 Mos. : $302K
Avg. Saturdays this year: $248K

Today: $385K

Note that all avgs. except for today have horiz. wagers included (i.e. the numbers are inflated by Pk wagers)

CBedo
04-25-2009, 09:27 PM
Well, keying the :9: made it a no stress race to watch, grrrrr!

Watcher
04-26-2009, 03:18 AM
Went with:

$10 Exacta 1,4,6,WT,1,3,4,6,7

Damn.

BillW
04-26-2009, 04:21 AM
Avg. per race last 16 mos.: $268K
Avg. Saturdays last 16 Mos. : $302K
Avg. Saturdays this year: $248K

Today's Race 6: $385K

Note that all avgs. except for today have horiz. wagers included (i.e. the numbers are inflated by Pk wagers)

Avg. for the day: $292K/race