Pirates no more !!

[cj's dad]

How long before the Pittsburgh (MLB) and Oakland (NFL) franchises are asked to change their names ?? Pirates and Raiders are surely not to be revered, are they ??

A fact: 41 Colleges have changed their names in the last 30 years or so, most of them were previously referred to as, in no particular order:

indians (Stanford for example)
chiefs
warriors
redmen (St. John's University)
savages
& various tribe names.

Cleveland has the "Indians"
Atlanta has the "Braves"
KC has the "Chiefs"

and in the NFL the Redskins are continued to allowed to be the Redskins !!

Imagine a team from the old NFL being called the Sambos, or the Brownskins, or the "fill in the blank" _________________ and the name was allowed to live on; little chance of that happening.

Why does PC only apply to youth leagues with co-ed soccer and no winners in some t-ball games but PC does not extend to pro sports ??

[kenwoodallpromos]

From the Jockey Club. prohibited names:
"10. Names that are suggestive or have a vulgar or obscene meaning; names considered in poor taste; or names that may be offensive to religious, political or ethnic groups;
11. Names that appear to be designed to harass, humiliate or disparage a specific individual, group of individuals or entity;"
I guess racing is the good guy!

[BillW]

Pirates have a legitimate name. I think it was the baseball pirates although there was also a football and hockey club of the same name. They received it way back when they borrowed a few players from the Philadelphia club. :lol:

[cj]

I umpired a high school baseball game last week and was amazed the home school's name was the Savages.

[OTM Al]

In the case of Cleveland, they were given the moniker as a tribute to a Native American player for the team that was much loved and had passed away. Fla. St. got the support of the Seminole nation to keep their name. Can't speak much for the others.

Of course there always is the "Fightin' Irish" is you really want to go for negative stereotypes.....

[toetoe]

In another thread, I recommended Terrorists for Pirates. Kinda proud, but no --- don't thank me. :blush: .

[Marshall Bennett]

The LSU " Fighting " Tigers . PETA may jump in to have that removed .

[Valuist]

The name "Pirates" will not change. It seems like names only get changed due to what some feel are ethnic slurs, like Redskins, Red Men, etc. Funny how the Irish never complained about the Fighting Irish, or the Minutemen of UMass haven't had threats to force the name change.

[Floyd]

The Fighting Whites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites)

[ezrabrooks]

I umpired a high school baseball game last week and was amazed the home school's name was the Savages.

Southeastern State University in Durant, OK, were called the Savages...but, think they recently went PC, and changed to the Savage Storm. They will always be the Savages to me. Savage Storm...WTH is that?

Ez

[cj's dad]

Heres the list - no guarantee as to its' accuracy:

This is a List of university and college nickname changed in the United States.



Adams State Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_State_College), now the "Grizzlies"
Arkansas State Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_State_Red_Wolves), now the "Red Wolves". Previous nicknames include "Aggies", "Gorillas", and "Warriors".
Chowan Braves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chowan_University), reverted to "Hawks" in 2006
Carthage Redmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_College), reverted to the "Red Men"
Cumberland Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Cumberlands), now the "Cumberlands Patriots", known as Cumberland College until 2005, when it became the University of the Cumberlands. The nickname change came earlier.
Dartmouth Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_Big_Green), disused since the 1970s in favor of continuing existing nickname, "Big Green"
Dickinson State Savages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickinson_State_University), renamed the "Blue Hawks" in 1972
Eastern Michigan Hurons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Michigan_University), now the "Eagles"
Eastern Washington Savages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Washington_University), now the "Eagles"
FIU Sunblazers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University), changed to "Golden Panthers" in 1987
George Washington Hatchetites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_George_Washington_University), changed to "Colonials" in 1928
Hofstra Flying Dutchmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_University), now the "Pride"
IUP Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_University_of_Pennsylvania), renamed the "Crimson Hawks" in 2006
Louisiana-Monroe Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Louisiana_at_Monroe), now the "Warhawks"
Marquette Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquette_Golden_Eagles), became the "Golden Eagles" in 1994
Maryland Old Liners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_Terrapins), now the "Terrapins", other names included "Aggies" and "Farmers" when the school was known as the Maryland Agricultural College.
UMass Redmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMass_Minutemen), became the "Minutemen" in 1972 (According to the University, "Redmen" and "Redwomen" referred to the uniforms worn by the athletic teams. It was changed to "Minutemen" and "Minutewomen" out of sensitivity to American Indians.)
MCLA Mohawks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_College_of_Liberal_Arts), today the "Trailblazers"
Miami Redskins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_RedHawks), in mid-1997, officially changed their names to the "RedHawks"
Mississippi Flood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Miss_Rebels), changed to "Rebels"
Midwestern State Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_State_University), changed to "Mustangs"
Nebraska Wesleyan Plainsmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Wesleyan_University), today the "Prairie Wolves"
Oklahoma City University Chiefs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_University), now the "Stars"
Quinnipiac Braves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinnipiac_University), became the "Bobcats" in 2002
Rio Grande Redmen and Redwomen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Rio_Grande), renamed the "Red Storm" in 2008.
Rutgers Queensmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_Scarlet_Knights), the "Scarlet Knights" since 1955
St. Bonaventure Brown Indians and Brown Squaws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bonaventure_University), renamed the "Bonnies" in 1979
St. John's Redmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._John%27s_University_%28New_York_City%29), became the "Red Storm" in 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995), to be gender-neutral and to avoid any appearance of racism. St. John's website indicates that the name did not refer to American Indians, but to the school color, a bright cardinal red.
Simpson Redmen and Lady Reds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson_College), renamed the "Storm" in 1992
Southeast Missouri State Indians and Otahkians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Missouri_State_University), renamed the "Redhawks"
Southeastern Oklahoma State Savages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Oklahoma_State_University), renamed "Savage Storm" in 2006
Seattle Chieftains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Redhawks), now the "Redhawks"
Southern Colorado Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_Colorado), renamed the ThunderWolves in 1995. It is currently Colorado State University-Pueblo, the nickname change came earlier.
Southern Nazarene Redskins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Nazarene_University), now the "Crimson Storm"
Springfield College Chiefs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_College), now the "Pride"
Stanford Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_Cardinal), now known as the Stanford "Cardinal" (singular - for the school color, a shade of red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_%28color%29))
Stonehill Chieftains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehill_College), today the "Skyhawks"
Syracuse Orangemen and Orangewomen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse_Orange), indigenous to Ireland, renamed "Orange" in 2004
Central Florida Golden Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights), renamed "Knights" in 2007.
Virginia Tech Fighting Gobblers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Polytechnic_Institute_and_State_Universit y), originally the "Fighting Gobblers" but its nickname gradually transitioned into Hokies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_Hokies).
William & Mary Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_%26_Mary_Tribe), now known as the "Tribe".

[dav4463]

The Fighting Whites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites)

I played on an intramural basketball team. We wanted to be called the Crackers. They wouldn't let us do it. We even said it was because we all liked Nabisco crackers. They didn't buy it!

[sandpit]

Rutgers Queensmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_Scarlet_Knights)

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[Overlay]

At one time, the Pekin, Illinois high school team was called "The Pekin Chinks" (I assume because of the link to the former name of what is now Beijing). Surely (one would hope) that's been changed by this time.

As far as pirates are concerned, will the Tampa Bay Buccaneers be changing their name also? (Or is a buccaneer considered more swashbuckling and Errol Flynnesque in nature than a garden-variety pirate?)

[sandpit]

At one time, the Pekin, Illinois high school team was called "The Pekin Chinks" (I assume because of the link to the former name of what is now Beijing). Surely (one would hope) that's been changed by this time.

As far as pirates are concerned, will the Tampa Bay Buccaneers be changing their name also? (Or is a buccaneer considered more swashbuckling and Errol Flynnesque in nature than a garden-variety pirate?)

The Tampa Bay Swashbucklers?

[Floyd]

At one time, the Pekin, Illinois high school team was called "The Pekin Chinks" (I assume because of the link to the former name of what is now Beijing). Surely (one would hope) that's been changed by this time.

As far as pirates are concerned, will the Tampa Bay Buccaneers be changing their name also? (Or is a buccaneer considered more swashbuckling and Errol Flynnesque in nature than a garden-variety pirate?)
The Pekin Chinks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin,_Illinois) changed their name in 1983.
The Freeport Pretzels (http://www.freeportpretzelathletics.com/) on the other hand have withstood the pressure from Pretzel-Americans and still proudly take the field.

[Bubbles]

There's discussion every few years at Ithaca College over whether or not to do away with our mascot, the Bombers. Rumor has it they were thinking of calling us the Penguins, but nothing ever came of it except a bunch of angry students who couldn't see why people were getting angry about it.

[cj's dad]

The Pekin Chinks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin,_Illinois) changed their name in 1983.
The Freeport Pretzels (http://www.freeportpretzelathletics.com/) on the other hand have withstood the pressure from Pretzel-Americans and still proudly take the field.

are you putting a twist on that story ??

[Floyd]

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are you putting a twist on that story ??
I sure am! Take it with a grain of salt.

And a beer.

[ranchwest]

A couple of interesting notes:

Louisiana Lafayette (formerly University of Southwestern Louisiana, USL) previously used the name Bulldogs, but now they're the Ragin' Cajuns. Reverse PC?

There's actually at least two Cleveland Indians. Cleveland HS in Texas goes by the Indians, too.