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Cangamble
04-11-2009, 12:18 PM
http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/03/hana-track-ratings-21-through-65.html

We are going after an exactor. Race to be determined shortly.

Cangamble
04-11-2009, 04:06 PM
http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/03/hana-track-ratings-21-through-65.html

We are going after an exactor. Race to be determined shortly.
Wrong link:
http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/04/target-mountain.html

kenwoodallpromos
04-11-2009, 06:11 PM
I read Baird Estate horse are going to kill pens; Do you have a list of trainers whose horses go to slaughter (prior to betting the exactors)? Better yet, maybe HANA ca email the track and ask for a list!

kenwoodallpromos
04-11-2009, 06:17 PM
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Dale Baird has been heralded as the most winning trainer in US history, winning over 9,000 races before his death in 2007. Baird has been twice nominated for consideration by Racing's Hall of Fame. Thankfully, he was denied entry both times. What a lot of people didnít know about Dale Baird was that while he was no doubt America's winning-most trainer, he was also a man who thought nothing of sending hundreds if not thousands of horses to slaughter, once they were no longer of any use to him. He may very well have been the trainer who in his lifetime sent more horses to slaughter than any of his counterparts.

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BombsAway Bob
04-12-2009, 02:17 AM
Wrong link:
http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/2009/04/target-mountain.html

I know horseplayers love to gamble (& get value doing so), but I think we should be betting into a pool that actually shows up on the toteboard!
A HANA "SHOW of STRENGTH", betting into one races' show pool, would be much more effective in providing VISUAL evidence that we can "Rock the Tote" with our group! Doubling a tracks' exacta pool will only impress the track getting the handle & the HANA members willing to dig up the pool figs and compare them with previous numbers.
However, If there is $24,000 in the win pool, $11,000 in the place pool, & $30,000 IN THE SHOW POOL with no bridgejumping scenario, THAT WILL get the attention of the average joe!!! IMO.. Happy Easter, All. Peace,Bob Grant

BillW
04-12-2009, 12:32 PM
MNR Race #3 has been named the target for this Tuesday evening! Post time is at 7:50 PM EDST.

http://horseplayersassociation.org/

arno
04-14-2009, 09:17 AM
60% chance of rain tonight in downtown Chester W Va.

Handicap accordingly.

JustRalph
04-14-2009, 01:01 PM
exacta pool right?

DeanT
04-14-2009, 01:13 PM
exacta pool right?

Correct!

kenwoodallpromos
04-14-2009, 01:38 PM
2, 6.

Hajck Hillstrom
04-14-2009, 05:37 PM
2, 6.If the track comes up off, these two look strong. Amazing off-track stats on both with their pedigree and connections.

I will box the :9::2::6:, on an off track.

bobbyb
04-14-2009, 05:59 PM
I'll be using the 7**/3 as a keys o/u with 2,4,6,9

Should be fun - Best of Luck to all!!

bobby

Floyd
04-14-2009, 06:02 PM
I'll box :2: , :8: ,& :3: .
And hold my breath!
Good luck!

Onion Monster
04-14-2009, 06:29 PM
I like the 8 Hey Reemer as my key.

nativenova
04-14-2009, 06:46 PM
I am boxing 2-3-5
rain -shine -sleet -or snow

but no late jockey change..........:bang:

DeanT
04-14-2009, 07:56 PM
See how speed is tonight. The nine in the first should tell us according to CJ's figs

http://www.pacefigures.com/HANA/Mnr090414C.htm

6-5 looks more than fair on this horse in the 1st, imo, if speed is flashy.

Red Knave
04-14-2009, 08:19 PM
$2 box - 2, 6, 7, 8 --- $24

miesque
04-14-2009, 08:22 PM
Its been one of those days and I am fried, but this is a pool party so I am just going to go rather deep here and hope to make a splash, just haven't figure out how deep. By the way I checked the Past 24 Hour weather stats for Chester and they have had some light rain throughout the afternoon so I am a bit surprised the track condition is listed as fast, was expecting good.

cdax
04-14-2009, 08:22 PM
2,7 w 2,5,6,7

DeanT
04-14-2009, 08:31 PM
Wow, them Chester residents know how to promote, even Peter Berry is getting into the act! Now if we can get a close finish to get him to say "owwwwhhh nothing in it!"

exactaplayer
04-14-2009, 08:41 PM
:7:/:3::6::8:/:7:
$6.00 bet

Cangamble
04-14-2009, 08:43 PM
Box :1::5::9:

Part wheel :1::5: with :1::3::5::9:

Charli125
04-14-2009, 08:45 PM
It is race 3 right? I don't think youbet is very quick about updating pool totals. Right now it shows about $7,500 as opposed to 47 & 48K for the 1st two races.

ACCEPTED: 37304750895941 MNR #3 $10 Exacta 2,7,WT,3,6,8,9 <none> $ 80.00
ACCEPTED: 96986030714719 MNR #3 $2 Exacta 3,6,8,9,WT,2,7 <none> $ 16.00
ACCEPTED: 79618139601988 MNR #3 $5 Exacta 2,7,WT,2,7,8,9 <none> $ 30.00

DeanT
04-14-2009, 08:48 PM
I like 8. Went mostly 8-2359 and 2359-8

JustRalph
04-14-2009, 08:48 PM
:2: :3: :8: :1:

BUD
04-14-2009, 08:51 PM
How do are numbers look---Are we making an impact or are we making ourselves the fool??-----Havin fun---That Mark is a lotta fun to listen to--

JustRalph
04-14-2009, 08:55 PM
now I remember why I don't play this track

DeanT
04-14-2009, 08:56 PM
It is race 3 right? I don't think youbet is very quick about updating pool totals. Right now it shows about $7,500 as opposed to 47 & 48K for the 1st two races.

ACCEPTED: 37304750895941 MNR #3 $10 Exacta 2,7,WT,3,6,8,9 <none> $ 80.00
ACCEPTED: 96986030714719 MNR #3 $2 Exacta 3,6,8,9,WT,2,7 <none> $ 16.00
ACCEPTED: 79618139601988 MNR #3 $5 Exacta 2,7,WT,2,7,8,9 <none> $ 30.00

Nice hit!! I am kicking myself! Good job. We did good as well. The pools are all juiced by quite a bit.

miesque
04-14-2009, 08:56 PM
I am kicking myself for not also betting the tri in this race :bang:

Charli125
04-14-2009, 08:57 PM
Nice hit!! I am kicking myself! Good job. We did good as well. The pools are all juiced by quite a bit.

Thanks, but I sure wish it would've come 7-9 instead of 9-7. Still, a massive $10.60 profit on the day!

BUD
04-14-2009, 08:58 PM
I went fishing hopefully we looked good--

ACCEPTED: 58135599935723 MNR#3$1 ExactaBX,2,7,9<none>$ 6.00





I did what I could afford----Thanks it was fun----Loved getting mentioned----I bet that is gonna get good press for youz folks

DeanT
04-14-2009, 09:00 PM
I went fishing hopefully we looked good--

ACCEPTED: 58135599935723 MNR#3$1 ExactaBX,2,7,9<none>$ 6.00





I did what I could afford----Thanks it was fun----Loved getting mentioned----I bet that is gonna get good press for youz folks

Congrats!!! You deserve it.

DeanT
04-14-2009, 09:03 PM
I've gone through the results and that is the largest ex pool of hte year at the Mountain, and the mutuel pools were decent as well. We'll have some numbers in a bit. Mutuel pool avg is about $50k and ex pool around 55k usually, tri pool around 50k..

Hajck Hillstrom
04-14-2009, 09:04 PM
A net profit of $18 as a result of my $50 in buycott wagers.

$1 wheel/backwheel :9::2: with ALL
$1 BOX :9::2::6:
$4 BOX :9::6:

If the :6: holds on for second, that profit would have been to the tune of around $680.

I will take my 36% ROI on the evening and parlay it into next week's event.

DeanT
04-14-2009, 09:08 PM
coming out of retirement is fun huh Doug? This game is evil, like crack :)

Thanks.

CJ fig players might have done something there. His top two last out figs were 9 and 7.

miesque
04-14-2009, 09:17 PM
Per Equibase Charts

Pools Perfecta Trifecta

Race 1 59,631 58,315

Race 2 58,558 54,359

Race 3 72,604 57,497

DeanT
04-14-2009, 09:28 PM
Thanks to everyone. Looks like a solid bump from the averages at the Mountain, and it looks at first blush (especially with the bump in mutuel pool from the 55k average) we hit close to 30k this week, which would be a record for this little venture.

Thanks folks!!!

CBedo
04-14-2009, 09:58 PM
The pool was definitely bumped, but the amount is lower than I had hoped. Either people don't like Mountaineer, don't like exactas, or our HANA base has not grown over the three weeks of this project (or people are already getting burned out?).

Maybe this should me a monthly party instead of weekly?

(and by the way, I didn't have the 9 on top).

Cangamble
04-14-2009, 10:21 PM
Our impact was difficult to measure tonight. I suggest two bets the same race next week at Turf Paradise. A quinella and a double. Their double pools are around 5 grand and their quinella pools are around 3.5 grand.
Not crazy about an Arizona track since internet gambling is illegal there, but it is accessible for most, and many of the other pools are good since there is little competition on Tuesdays.

BUD
04-15-2009, 11:35 AM
Twinspires Can't bet TP----Can Express Bet??

I guess this highlights the problem--

BombsAway Bob
04-15-2009, 12:21 PM
I've gone through the results and that is the largest ex pool of hte year at the Mountain, and the mutuel pools were decent as well. We'll have some numbers in a bit. Mutuel pool avg is about $50k and ex pool around 55k usually, tri pool around 50k..
I know horseplayers love to gamble (& get value doing so), but I think we should be betting into a pool that actually shows up on the toteboard!
A HANA "SHOW of STRENGTH", betting into one races' show pool, would be much more effective in providing VISUAL evidence that we can "Rock the Tote" with our group! Doubling a tracks' exacta pool will only impress the track getting the handle & the HANA members willing to dig up the pool figs and compare them with previous numbers.
However, If there is $24,000 in the win pool, $11,000 in the place pool, & $30,000 IN THE SHOW POOL with no bridgejumping scenario, THAT WILL get the attention of the average joe!!! IMO

gopony
04-15-2009, 01:57 PM
I know horseplayers love to gamble (& get value doing so), but I think we should be betting into a pool that actually shows up on the toteboard!
A HANA "SHOW of STRENGTH", betting into one races' show pool, would be much more effective in providing VISUAL evidence that we can "Rock the Tote" with our group! Doubling a tracks' exacta pool will only impress the track getting the handle & the HANA members willing to dig up the pool figs and compare them with previous numbers.
However, If there is $24,000 in the win pool, $11,000 in the place pool, & $30,000 IN THE SHOW POOL with no bridgejumping scenario, THAT WILL get the attention of the average joe!!! IMO

The pools were up across the board. From the 3rd race to the 9th. So I think people were noticing, because a lot of people were putting money into the other pools besides the exacta.

But I like the idea of betting into the show pool, but the race track may not appreciate it.

Cangamble
04-15-2009, 03:08 PM
The pools were up across the board. From the 3rd race to the 9th. So I think people were noticing, because a lot of people were putting money into the other pools besides the exacta.

But I like the idea of betting into the show pool, but the race track may not appreciate it.
Unless it is a minus pool, show bets are the ones that give tracks the best breakage on average, though I am talking in a collective sense and not in an individual case.

gopony
04-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Unless it is a minus pool, show bets are the ones that give tracks the best breakage on average, though I am talking in a collective sense and not in an individual case.

Yes that is what I was assuming, HANA may create a minus pool and the race track may not appreciate that. Which would work counter to what is trying to be accomplished.

MNslappy
04-15-2009, 07:33 PM
A net profit of $18 as a result of my $50 in buycott wagers.

$1 wheel/backwheel :9::2: with ALL
$1 BOX :9::2::6:
$4 BOX :9::6:

If the :6: holds on for second, that profit would have been to the tune of around $680.

I will take my 36% ROI on the evening and parlay it into next week's event.


I hit the exacta because of your strong #9 ALR tout! Thank you kind sir...

2009-04-14 11:09:00 Bet Mountaineer 3 Exacta $1.00 8+9/3+6+7+8+9 $8.00 $68.30

carry on

BUD
04-15-2009, 08:38 PM
I trust you folks--

My question that Wasn't answered is the heart of the problem----we play the before mentioned track---The Spires does not offer wagers on it...

The Credit Card Co...Don't let some put money into a Wagering account----So Blokes like I--Have to get someone to get to Walgreen's to get a Green Dot Card--That off the Top--They Charge me 4.95---Now--I have to open a new account---To play some of the other tracks!!---This is Effin Nuts...

This is Why its vitally important that we stand together----

Being what I was in my former life we got screwed at every turn---Now with my disability I'm still getting screwed---Why--Soft BS union---NO ONE STANDS Together----Man we have the perfect opportunity---Don't let it pass..

kyle2227
04-20-2009, 12:10 AM
I know horseplayers love to gamble (& get value doing so), but I think we should be betting into a pool that actually shows up on the toteboard!
A HANA "SHOW of STRENGTH", betting into one races' show pool, would be much more effective in providing VISUAL evidence that we can "Rock the Tote" with our group! Doubling a tracks' exacta pool will only impress the track getting the handle & the HANA members willing to dig up the pool figs and compare them with previous numbers.
However, If there is $24,000 in the win pool, $11,000 in the place pool, & $30,000 IN THE SHOW POOL with no bridgejumping scenario, THAT WILL get the attention of the average joe!!! IMO.. Happy Easter, All. Peace,Bob Grant


Originally I thought that way was best but I am sure hanna knows the best way to do it so exacta is fine with me I am happy to bet it:)

kyle2227
04-22-2009, 12:03 PM
What did the pools end up being? Like how much higher?

Cangamble
04-22-2009, 01:50 PM
What did the pools end up being? Like how much higher?
We figure that in total, HANA members added another $25,000 to the race pools (13-16,000 in the exactor)