View Full Version : whipping restrictions trial at Woodbine
trottin' hopples
04-08-2009, 06:40 PM
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/notices/4-8-09/whipping-pilot-program-at-weg.html
Sea Biscuit
04-08-2009, 11:16 PM
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/notices/4-8-09/whipping-pilot-program-at-weg.html
These experiments at Woodbine are making me sick.
God what will they think up next.
They are effectively trying very hard to destroy harness racing as we know it.
Sea Biscuit.:ThmbDown:
Zenyatta To Crush
04-08-2009, 11:22 PM
I actually can't wait until harness racing is no more. I think its pretty ridiculous...and boring. I'm surprised people still watch it.
Sea Biscuit
04-09-2009, 01:59 AM
I actually can't wait until harness racing is no more. I think its pretty ridiculous...and boring. I'm surprised people still watch it.
I don't know where you are coming from Zenyatta.
There are millions of harness racing fans across North America and around the world for that matter who don't find harness racing boring.
I am sure you have a long wait ahead of you before harness racing dies in-spite of the idiots you have in the ORC.
Sea Biscuit.
Zenyatta To Crush
04-09-2009, 04:02 AM
That's just my opinion Sea Biscuit...Its just hard to get into since "normal" racing is just much funner to watch. In harness racing, there doesn't seem to be as much switching of positions, and if you want to pass on the turn, you have to go well out in the middle of the track sometimes. I understand that there are people on this board that enjoy it, but if they ever started showing harness racing on tv, many people would lose interest in horse racing. Horses pulling gigantic buggies racing against each other just doesn't interest me.
Sea Biscuit
04-09-2009, 05:45 AM
That's just my opinion Sea Biscuit...Its just hard to get into since "normal" racing is just much funner to watch. In harness racing, there doesn't seem to be as much switching of positions, and if you want to pass on the turn, you have to go well out in the middle of the track sometimes. I understand that there are people on this board that enjoy it, but if they ever started showing harness racing on tv, many people would lose interest in horse racing. Horses pulling gigantic buggies racing against each other just doesn't interest me.
Of course Zenyatta you have every right to your opinion. Its a free world you know.
Those gigantic buggies you mentioned are called sulkies in the harness lingo. Thought I'd correct you on that.
Sea Biscuit.
kenwoodallpromos
04-09-2009, 09:19 AM
Of course Zenyatta you have every right to your opinion. Its a free world you know.
Those gigantic buggies you mentioned are called sulkies in the harness lingo. Thought I'd correct you on that.
Sea Biscuit.
I'm not much of a fan of them, but I would not call what they ride on "Gigantic".
Besides not being able to run, and the usually predictable trip scenario, my qustioninf of Harness Racing is what they call the horses: What is the difference between Standardbreds, Trotters, Harness Horses, Pacers, and why was a Tbred called "Sulky" Sullivan?
I know of US Trotting Association, but all on here say "Harness Racing" Seriously, what is the difference between all the above? :confused:
wilderness
04-09-2009, 01:39 PM
I'm not much of a fan of them, but I would not call what they ride on "Gigantic".
Besides not being able to run, and the usually predictable trip scenario, my qustioninf of Harness Racing is what they call the horses: What is the difference between Standardbreds, Trotters, Harness Horses, Pacers, and why was a Tbred called "Sulky" Sullivan?
I know of US Trotting Association, but all on here say "Harness Racing" Seriously, what is the difference between all the above? :confused:
Technically there not called "sulkys or sulkies".
They are race bikes and jog carts.
The confusion over the terminology is traditionally the fault of writers that have been inconsistent (even non-traditional) in their use of the terms.
One term that I cringe every time I read is "bettors", which is simply a lazy writers way of reducing word counts and/or typing.
These linka at the USTA should answer all your questuions:
Breed Information (http://www.ustrotting.com/services/breed/harness.cfm)
Harness The Excitement (http://www.ustrotting.com/pdf/Fan_Book_Web.pdf)
Sea Biscuit
04-09-2009, 01:42 PM
I'm not much of a fan of them, but I would not call what they ride on "Gigantic".
Besides not being able to run, and the usually predictable trip scenario, my qustioninf of Harness Racing is what they call the horses: What is the difference between Standardbreds, Trotters, Harness Horses, Pacers, and why was a Tbred called "Sulky" Sullivan?
I know of US Trotting Association, but all on here say "Harness Racing" Seriously, what is the difference between all the above? :confused:
Heres one link where you may find all the answers to your queries
http://www.horserides.org/standardbreds.html
You can also do a wider Google search on Standardbred horses if you want do go a little deeper.
Sea Biscuit
wilderness
04-09-2009, 01:48 PM
This 1975 Hoof Beats article by Lou Cunningham is intended to be humor rather than providing insight.
Grandaddy What's a Trotter (http://www.mi-harness.com/publct/whatstrotter.html)
trottin' hopples
04-09-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm not much of a fan of them, but I would not call what they ride on "Gigantic".
Besides not being able to run, and the usually predictable trip scenario, my qustioninf of Harness Racing is what they call the horses: What is the difference between Standardbreds, Trotters, Harness Horses, Pacers, and why was a Tbred called "Sulky" Sullivan?
I know of US Trotting Association, but all on here say "Harness Racing" Seriously, what is the difference between all the above? :confused:
The t-bred that you make reference to was
"Silky Sullivan" not "Sulky"
wilderness
04-09-2009, 07:42 PM
Harness Tracks of America used to sell a book of cartoons named "Sulky Sam (http://web.archive.org/web/20010306065620/www.harnesstracks.com/sulkysam.htm)"
Sea Biscuit
04-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Boy was it funny to see the guys tapping the horses with the whip with the reins in each hand at Woodbine.
Love to hear the driver comments for tonight's racing.
What a joke
Sea Biscuit.
Sea Biscuit
04-25-2009, 02:15 AM
In the 12th race at Woodbine on April 25, Sylvain Filion aboard #2 Gentle Artist, I clearly saw him whipping the horse with one hand while holding the reins in one hand. You dont see much in the actual race footage but after the race is over the camera zooms on the winning horse and thats where you clearly see him do it.
Would appreciate any comments from members on this forum.
Sea Biscuit.
GregReinhart
05-04-2009, 03:44 AM
In the 12th race at Woodbine on April 25, Sylvain Filion aboard #2 Gentle Artist, I clearly saw him whipping the horse with one hand while holding the reins in one hand. You dont see much in the actual race footage but after the race is over the camera zooms on the winning horse and thats where you clearly see him do it.
Would appreciate any comments from members on this forum.
Sea Biscuit.
SB-
The whipping trial at Woodbine expired on April 21, so they are now allowed to whip one handed again within the existing rules at both WEG tracks.
They (the Ontario Racing Commission) are now switching the whipping "pilot" program to Rideau Carleton Raceway in Ottawa and Western Fair Raceway in London over the next couple weeks to get some input on how it works on the smaller tracks and with the "cheaper" stock that races there.
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