Frankin

[Pell Mell]

What's the story with the Al Frankin recount. I thought I read somewhere that a judge was deciding what to do.

[jballscalls]

is it possible for him to be worse as a senator as he his a comedian?

[rgustafson]

The panel of three judges has decided to look at and count around 400 disputed absentee ballots sometime next week. With Coleman behind 225 votes it is unlikely he can overcome the deficit. His legal team has already said they will appeal to the state supreme court.

[JustRalph]

coleman statistically needs to recount over 2500 to have chance.

statistically speaking...........there are a few professors that say they can prove that statistically the Dem counties made up votes for Franken.

It should be interesting to read when all is said and done.

One professor says that Franken had to have won 400-1 in a couple of counties that were about even Dem and Repub, for the current numbers to be accurate. It will probably create some new law in the long run.

They have already kept Franken from voting on some stuff........the longer the better.

[hcap]

With Votes Counted, Franken Now Leads By 312 Votes
By Eric Kleefeld - April 7, 2009, 1:08PM

Minnesota has just finished counting the 351 previously-rejected ballots approved by the three-judge panel as having been legally cast and rejected in error. The numbers: Al Franken 198, Norm Coleman 111, Other 42.

This means that Al Franken's lead has increased from the 225 he had going into today, up to 312 votes out of roughly 2.9 million

The only way for Coleman to overcome this lead would be to win an appeal against the election court's prior rulings in favor of strict standards to let in new ballots, or to somehow win his much more far-fetched proposal to retroactively declare a number of absentee votes illegal and deduct them from the totals based on countywide averages. The first one is more likely in terms of feasibility, and even that's a long shot, leaving the Coleman camp at their other proposal to "set aside" the election result entirely.

[Tom]

So this election and the one in Alaska were both "fixed."
Interesting.
But we do not whine on the right...we move one and come back later.
Imaging the crying if it were the other way around in either state!

[Dahoss9698]

But we do not whine on the right...we move one and come back later.
Imaging the crying if it were the other way around in either state!

How did you type this with a straight face? You don't whine? You move on? When?

[Tom]

Now. Buh-bye.

[hcap]

One more time.
"The Republicans, in particular, have lost quite a bit of support over the past several years; those persons who continue to identify as Republicans are a hardened -- and very conservative -- lot. Just 24 percent of voters identified as Republican when Pew conducted this survey in March, which is roughly as low as that total has ever gotten."Franken will take it. A matter of republican obstructionists blocking another election.

Mr Nukular, take a deep breath, bend over as far as you can, and kiss your neocon ass
Now. Buh-bye.

[PaceAdvantage]

How did you type this with a straight face? You don't whine? You move on? When?He took his cue from the best and brightest these past eight years, who did nothing but whine about Bush every moment of every day. Karma's a bitch.

What, you want to take away our right to act like Democrats? Act like patriotic dissenters? How hypocritical of you. But, you know that. You're "just having fun."

[rastajenk]

A matter of republican obstructionists blocking another election.More like a matter of Democrats stealing another election.

[dutchboy]

Still no official Senator for Mn which may not be the worst thing based on the two dudes that ran. Next step is the MN supreme court and then a road trip the the US Supreme Court.

$6 million combined has been spent just on the recount. Franken owes 1.3 million. Coleman owes more but I am not sure of the figure. A total of 12 million bucks between the two parties has been spent on various things since the November election.

The job of Senator must "pay" more than what is published.

[hcap]

Meanwhile another repug loses.

Republican Jim Tedisco concedes to Democrat Scott Murphy in the razor-thin election in the NY-20. The concession came in a phone call from Tedisco to Murphy.

[kenwoodallpromos]

I thought they were just stalling until Al's souvenir drinking steins were ready!

[toetoe]

Tom --- indeed all my circojercular brethren,

I propose a website for us to just move on, ya know ? How about
move-on-dot-scam ? Lemme know if it's already taken.

[Secretariat]

Interesting it was Coleman who publicly asked after the election for Franken to concede becasue he was concerned about the cost of the recount to Minnesota voters, and for "the healing to begin."

Now ole' Norm is taking this to the Minn. Supreme Court, and i expect the US Supreme Court after that. It continues to reveal the hypocrisy of what ws once a grand old party. The only part still relevant is the "old".

[Tom]

You do know they are using different standards in different counties to count votes? Again!

And you, Sec, of all people. Remember all your whining posts about nothing being done to correct voting machines, until a rep lost, then silence?

Why don' t you update us all on how all the machines were fixed and voting fraud is no longer an issue? We would love to hear it. A time line would be nice, to, if it not too much trouble. :lol:

[hcap]

Another Repug obstructionist. What else is new?

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/43699772.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD 3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU?ref=fp4

Minnesota Poll: Most want Coleman to call it quits

The Republican should end his recount fight, most say, and fatigue over the six-month ordeal is clear.

By KEVIN DUCHSCHERE, Star Tribune

Nearly two-thirds of Minnesotans surveyed think Norm Coleman should concede the U.S. Senate race to Al Franken, but just as many believe the voting system that gave the state its longest running election contest needs improvement.

A new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll has found that 64 percent of those responding believe Coleman, the Republican, should accept the recount trial court's April 13 verdict that Democrat Franken won the race by 312 votes.

[Tom]

So the system is flawed, but he should just accept it?
Would you have told Gore the same thing?

[Rookies]

So the system is flawed, but he should just accept it?
Would you have told Gore the same thing?

No, he shouldn't accept the fact that part of the system is FUBARed. But like Gore, there's nothing that can be done about it.

However, why is it that these things continue to happen over at least the 8 year period in question, if not decades before ? It makes U.S. democracy look like some 3rd. world banana republic . As I asked before, why isn't there one uniform, consistent, verifiable and positive standard set for all states ?

[Tom]

100% agree.
There is no excuse for the crappy voting systems we have.

[Warren Henry]

Be VERY careful. Election mechanics are determined locally. This is as it should be. One thing we do not want to have is federally operated polling places.

[Tom]

No, but some sort of recognized standard is a must.
The integrity of the election process is paramount.

[hcap]

http://www.bartcop.com/franken-rules.jpg

[Tom]

How true.......

[Boris]

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[Tom]

Not only that, Al is also a Ham Burger. :lol: