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JustRalph
03-16-2009, 10:17 PM
As Nancy Pelosi tries to save her friends in the Liberal media............

I laugh my ass off. :lol:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/16/MNIA16GCBO.DTL

I hope all of these Liberal pieces of Trash go out of business. I used to love newspapers. I used to buy three a day........ Then I grew up. All of that was prior to the web of course.

I don't mind them going to the Web. It evens the playing field. Now they will have to compete on even ground. Giant family owned monsters of Liberalism and their brethren corporate whores with newsrooms full of brain washed lackeys with journalism degrees as their excuse to be biased, are dying a slow death. Hooray!! A hundred dollar a year website is now their competition. I love it............. :lol: :lol:

From the article:
"The Chronicle's largest union, representing nearly 500 employees, ratified a contract Saturday that will clear the way for at least 150 job cuts while also eliminating certain rights and benefits. Another Hearst paper, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, will cease publication Tuesday and become a web-only news outlet, Hearst said Monday."

Who do you think Nancy is really working for ? :lol: :lol:

Marshall Bennett
03-16-2009, 10:21 PM
She's America's number one evil , bar none !!

Tom
03-16-2009, 11:01 PM
So many fish, so few newspapers.

NJ Stinks
03-17-2009, 01:51 AM
Rooting for newspapers to die is pathetic. What's next? Movies, TV, magazines? Anybody who doesn't agree with you? :rolleyes:

Lefty
03-17-2009, 02:07 AM
what is pathetic, stinks, is media that is supposed to be objective are not anymore. Frauds must die.

Tom
03-17-2009, 07:30 AM
If papers are not selling, that should tell you something.

NJ Stinks
03-17-2009, 12:34 PM
Circulation isn't the problem - advertising revenue has plummeted.

PaceAdvantage
03-17-2009, 12:40 PM
Circulation isn't the problem - advertising revenue has plummeted.People tend to advertise where they can get the most bang for their buck.

Would you spend your ad dollars on a paper read by 10 people or 100 people? Circulation and advertising go hand in hand. And in this climate, the weaker (less read) papers are going to die first.

cj's dad
03-17-2009, 12:49 PM
Newspapers are not non-profit orginizations. They print stories and slant the same to foster a relationship with their perceived customer base. In most large cities, that base is left of center. They will not print articles that they believe will damage that relationship.

In an ideal world, a journalist would be a person of such high moral fiber that he/she would risk their job to print the facts and only the facts. And quite possibly/probably there are still some of that type around. But to think that reporters, editors and the like are not biased is, I think, to be naive.

Newspapers have replaced the hard-core cigar smoking reporter of 30- 40 years ago with the politically correct type.

News stories are editorialized, facts that are deemed to be insensitive are not reported, pressure from high ranking city officials keep many stories from seeing the light of day.

People have simply gotten away from reading newspapers. The electronic age is exploding and with that comes the demise of the print media.

Newspapers have a right to print, within reason, what they will. We have the right to refuse to buy. Apparently, that is exactly what has happened in cities like San Francisco and Seattle, and will continue to happen as long as the print media fails to realize that they are driving away those who truly want a fair and accurate reporting of the NEWS.

cj's dad
03-17-2009, 12:57 PM
Circulation isn't the problem - advertising revenue has plummeted.

Circulation dictates ad fees, does it not?

I certainly can't speak for NJ and you can't speak for Baltimore, but I can tell you that here, circulation is down significantly. Sidewalk newstands have vanished and coin operated boxes are few and far between. The local convenience stores are selling fewer and fewer copies of the local paper, The Sun. Layoffs there are occuring monthly.

I work next door to the Baltimore Sun hq's in downtown Baltimore and we share the same parking garage. The place is less and less full each month as monthly permits are not renewed and this is not coming from my company.

Like the Preakness, it's a matter of time.

sandpit
03-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Circulation dictates ad fees, does it not?



I work in the periodical industry, and I can tell you that our circulation has held steady or grown slightly, but our ad revenues have dropped dramatically in the past year. The change in our ad fee structure is a direct result of us trying to entice advertisers to our print publications. Selling online advertising is a completely different ballgame in terms of how the buys are composed, and just like print ads, it's tough to get exact measurements on how many eyeballs are seeing your ads. Just like television, there's no way to tell how many eyeballs are looking at that one screen at the other end of the pipeline.

NJ Stinks
03-17-2009, 01:19 PM
According the The Daily Weekly website, "The San Francisco Chronicle has a daily circulation exceeding 300,000...."

If circulation is the problem, the Chronicle would not be in trouble.

NJ Stinks
03-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Time Magazine did an article on the 10 newspapers in the US in the most trouble. Ad revenue - not circulation - seems to be the culprit:


http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1883785,00.html?iid=tsmodule

BlueShoe
03-17-2009, 01:59 PM
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer will print its final edition today.Considered to be far left,this paper has often been zinged by Bill O'Reilly.While all papers have suffered from declining circulation and revenues,it seems that those left of center have sufferd the most.Meanwhile,conservative talk radio and Fox News are thriving,while Air America is a failure and MSNBC is sputtering.Am sure that advertisers have taken note.

ddog
03-17-2009, 04:21 PM
People tend to advertise where they can get the most bang for their buck.

Would you spend your ad dollars on a paper read by 10 people or 100 people? Circulation and advertising go hand in hand. And in this climate, the weaker (less read) papers are going to die first.


You want to win an easy contest?

I will bet you that if you actually look hard at most of the failures you will find debt service as the culprit and that the daily ops and income to support that are still ok for many of the ones going under.

The problem was that many were bought up using big time leverage and then as times got tougher more and more of the staff were let go and eventually you reach a point where what you have is of so little value and with growing inability of many in this country to get through anything of more than twitter length playing a part , you can't service the debt load and out you go.


check it out.

Tom
03-17-2009, 07:01 PM
Duplicity Alert.

Nancy the Disgrace is now talking about easing up on monopoly laws to let some newspapers merge to save themselves. Even though she supported the law to prevent right-side papers from growing.

Can billion dollar bail out be far behind?

JustRalph
03-17-2009, 08:41 PM
how the hell do they bail out a newspaper?

I read today that 41% of the money that Went to AIG went trickle down style to American Banks........that AIG insured.

58% went to foreign banks ............. so we are bailing out foreign banks.


What the hell is next................

ddog
03-17-2009, 08:48 PM
the bailout for newspapers is called TALF.

it will be specifically tailored for small biz it seems.

ANYONE with some kind of collateral is going to be in on it.

like i said long ago,once you start the process you are holding onto the tiger and dare not stop to hop off.

i am waiting to see when the various "programs" will be phased out.

:sleeping:

Tom
03-17-2009, 09:15 PM
Ralph, that is what this diversion about bonuses is all about-keeping the focus off the laundering going on.

I think it was Chickenhead who said something like when Obama speaks, look away to see what he is deflecting your attention from. :lol:

Like this POG Upchuckschummer, last month, no one cared about a billion of pork here and there, but now, 1/10th of 1 percent - 165 million - is the end of the world. What a total jerk this doof is.

PaceAdvantage
03-18-2009, 06:55 PM
You want to win an easy contest?

I will bet you that if you actually look hard at most of the failures you will find debt service as the culprit and that the daily ops and income to support that are still ok for many of the ones going under.

The problem was that many were bought up using big time leverage and then as times got tougher more and more of the staff were let go and eventually you reach a point where what you have is of so little value and with growing inability of many in this country to get through anything of more than twitter length playing a part , you can't service the debt load and out you go.


check it out.I don't disagree with anything you wrote. Excellent observation.

Lefty
03-18-2009, 09:53 PM
dog, that's certainly what's happening with casino conglomerates here in Vegas. they expand and buy up other operations all on credit, and now can't make the pmts.

Suff
03-19-2009, 09:12 AM
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer will print its final edition today.Considered to be far left,this paper has often been zinged by Bill O'Reilly.While all papers have suffered from declining circulation and revenues,it seems that those left of center have suffered the most.Meanwhile,conservative talk radio and Fox News are thriving,while Air America is a failure and MSNBC is sputtering.Am sure that advertisers have taken note.

Newspaper circulation here and abroad is directly tied to the market penetration of Broadband Internet. Markets that have high broadband see significant drops in print sales.

Markets with the highest broadband penetration are the markets with the highest earners, highest educated, most mobile, highest home values, highest percentage of population with health insurance, college degrees, self funded retirements, longer life spans and so on.

If you live in a town that has not seen significant declines in print media that is bad sign. Not a good sign. If your primary way of communicating to your audience is with television and radio that is not a good thing. Those audiences and margins are shrinking rapidly.


Now just for your edification, Rush Limbaugh does in fact have the #1 AM radio show in America, with a recorded audience of 14.5 million listeners.

The # 2 AM radio show in America is "Morning Edition" with 13.5 million listeners, and # 3 AM radio show in America is "All Things Considered" also with 13.5 million listeners. Both of these shows are syndicated by PBS. Who, before people go all stupid on me, gets exactly 2% of its funds in the form of Federal Grants. 55% of its operating budget comes from listener contributions.

carbonite!:lol:

ddog
03-19-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't disagree with anything you wrote. Excellent observation.


Pa--- i hate when that happens.
:)

I drag you in because i am curious what you have to say on the subject.

You are right sometimes, yes i admit it.

:kiss: