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Pell Mell
03-15-2009, 07:23 AM
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91539

I didn't need this study to tell me to get out of NJ but it confirms what I already knew. Of course, there are those who don't want or need freedom because they have never tasted it.

You can click on a link from the above link that will give the complete details of the study.

NJ does stink!

ArlJim78
03-15-2009, 12:54 PM
#42 Illinois, pretty far down on the list.

the bright spot for us is that the new governor just announced a plan to raise the income tax by 50%. Blagoyevich was right after all!:lol:

sandpit
03-15-2009, 01:22 PM
#42 Illinois, pretty far down on the list.

the bright spot for us is that the new governor just announced a plan to raise the income tax by 50%. Blagoyevich was right after all!:lol:

Wouldn't a 50% tax hike cause a revolution in most places? How is this playing in the Illinois media? Is this guy trying to get himself run out of office? http://paceadvantage.com/forum/images/smilies/49.gif

boxcar
03-15-2009, 02:17 PM
Very interesting stuff, PM. Thanks for starting this thread.

Boxcar

wes
03-15-2009, 04:00 PM
STATE OF SHOCK


wes

Tee
03-15-2009, 04:14 PM
I'll just jump across the border.





Into Colorado!! :D

Tom
03-15-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm in New York.
What's left for me?
Nowhere to go but up!
Leaving NY will not be a new idea......almost all of our businesses ave done that.

NY sucks, and is most deserving of it's place.
NY is run but dangerous morons who actually believe the BS they spout.
And our Governor is a total embarrassment - the parody they do of him on SNL makes him look far too smart. Far too smart.


GD NYS
GD NYS
GD NYS

BELMONT 6-6-09
03-15-2009, 05:07 PM
Agree with you 100% Tom...you should see the daily hijinks working for the city and dealing with the masses on a daily basis. OUCH!

chickenhead
03-15-2009, 05:11 PM
The California government does just about everything wrong. And a good percentage of the population is batshit crazy. But I love it here.

Boris
03-15-2009, 06:50 PM
Rather than starting a new thread, this will fit nicely here.


Ten happiest, saddest House districts

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Ten_happiest_saddest_House_districts.html


And there seems to be a partisan pattern. Seven of the 10 most content districts were represented by Republicans -- nine of the 10 unhappiest were represented by Democrats.

Two interesting exceptions: Coal Country Republican Hal Rogers (R-Kent.) represents the unhappiest district of all, and Silicon Valley Democratic Rep. Anna Eshoo sits atop the happy heap.

Top Ten Happiest:
1. Anna Eshoo (D-California-14) Silicon Valley ( $77,985) 73.5
2. Tom Price (R-Georgia-6) Marietta/Golden Crescent ($71,669) 73.2
3. John Campbell (R-California-48) Orange County ($69,663) 72.9
4. Mike Coffman (R-Colorado-6) Littleton ($73,393) 72.8
5. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-New Jersey-11) Morris County ($79,009) 71.3
6. Brian Bilbray (R-California-50) San Diego, Solana Beach ($59,813) 71.2
7. Henry Waxman (D-California-30) Hollywood, Beverly Hills ($60,713) 70.9
8. Chris Van Hollen (D-Maryland-8) Bethesda, Potomac, Kensington ($68,306) 70.9
9. Dana Rohrabacher (R-California-46) Huntington Beach ($61,567) 70.8
10. David Drier (R-California-26) San Gabriel Valley ( $68,968) 70.5

Top Ten Unhappiest
435. Hal Rogers (R-Kentucky-5) Hazard, E. Kentucky coal fields ($21,915) 56.2
434. Jose Serrano (D-New York-16) South Bronx ($19,311) 58.7
433. Bennie Thompson (D-Mississippi-2) The Delta ($26,894) 59.0
432. Nick Rahall (D-West Virginia-3) Huntington ($25,630) 59.1
431. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio-17) Youngstown ($36,705) 59.7
430. Ed Towns (D-New York-10) East New York, Bed-Sty, Brooklyn Heights ($30,212) 59.8
429. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-Michigan-13) Detroit, Grosse Pointe ($52,510) 59.8
428. Zack Space (D-Ohio-18) Zanesville, Dover ($34,462) 59.8
427. Bob Brady (D-Pennsylvania-1) South Philly, Chester ($28,261) - 60.2
426. Marcia Fudge, (D-Ohio-11) Cleveland ($31,998) 60.2

wes
03-15-2009, 07:45 PM
If only the south had been using cannon balls instead of those dam cotton balls!


wes

BlueShoe
03-15-2009, 08:08 PM
Notice on the graphs that the higher pc the Dems got the lower the freedom ratings.Some surprises.Isnt New Hampshire heavily Democratic and far left like most Eastern states?The front range Colorado cities are mostly far left,lots of loons.Those two are surprises.As a SoCal resident not a bit surprised at our bottom level ranking.Did not think Washington would rate so low,below Oregon,nor Arizona so high.Idaho is looking very tempting as a final destination.

NJ Stinks
03-15-2009, 10:49 PM
Still picking on Jersey I see, Pell Mell. :rolleyes:

Anyway, about NJ. It's true we have the highest real estate taxes and auto insurance in the nation. And it's also true that the NJ Legislature would tell me when I could sneeze if they thought they could enforce it. Even worse, traffic cameras are starting to appear and tobacco and alcohol taxes are increasing every year. Finally, we are densely populated. Open space is a big problem and getting bigger.

On the other hand, we have race tracks, casinos, and some of the best beaches around. We make more money than most states and have better school systems than most states. Plus this state is Blue. So Blue GWB didn't even try to sell his BS here in either election. It's also worth adding the fact that we can visit Philly and NYC and go home the same day.

We do have a 7% sales tax and a state income tax. But the state income tax rates are dirt cheap which is why we have a huge deficit. Plus, we freeze real estate taxes for our seniors if they don't make over 60G's a year and that is very cool!

Overall, I feel fortunate to live here. We've got three big international airports within 90 miles of my house; NY, Philly papers, and the DRF available down the street; and we're not New York. :cool:

Pell Mell
03-16-2009, 07:07 AM
Still picking on Jersey I see, Pell Mell. :rolleyes:

Anyway, about NJ. It's true we have the highest real estate taxes and auto insurance in the nation. And it's also true that the NJ Legislature would tell me when I could sneeze if they thought they could enforce it. Even worse, traffic cameras are starting to appear and tobacco and alcohol taxes are increasing every year. Finally, we are densely populated. Open space is a big problem and getting bigger.

On the other hand, we have race tracks, casinos, and some of the best beaches around. We make more money than most states and have better school systems than most states. Plus this state is Blue. So Blue GWB didn't even try to sell his BS here in either election. It's also worth adding the fact that we can visit Philly and NYC and go home the same day.

We do have a 7% sales tax and a state income tax. But the state income tax rates are dirt cheap which is why we have a huge deficit. Plus, we freeze real estate taxes for our seniors if they don't make over 60G's a year and that is very cool!

Overall, I feel fortunate to live here. We've got three big international airports within 90 miles of my house; NY, Philly papers, and the DRF available down the street; and we're not New York. :cool:

Also, the stress of the aggressive drivers with them trying to kill themselves and everyone in their path. The noise, going into a store and not being able to understand what the clerks are saying and people pushing and shoving, etc. The regulations; before I left NJ I had to put a furnace in my house and it took 5 permits @ $75. each plus endless waits for inspections from inspectors that I think were looking for a handout. I needed a permit to install a new hot water heater and a dishwasher and a deck. You need a permit to put up a dog coop. And let me say this, I've been where you are but you haven't been where I am so how would you know what you are suffering or the benefits your missing? I know a lot of people who have left NJ and after being away a year or so they all say the same thing; "How did I ever live there".
I, like you, lived within reach of the same things. Going to NYC was a hassle because if you drove it would cost $25. or more to park and taking the train and then a taxi was another pain, that is, if there was anything worth going to the trouble. NYC is like a big sewer, and I know because I used to go there every day. Going to the beach is another pain in the ass. I had a house in Seaside which I sold because of the crowds and more regulations.
What is the advantage of being able to buy a NY newspaper or DRF? If one doesn't live there who cares? And if you did care you can read them on the Internet. Racetracks? Most go to OTB's anyway and I find it much more convenient to bet online.
No, I don't miss any of NJ's conveniences but I sure enjoy the stress free, friendly atmosphere of E. TN.
Just because we disagree doesn't mean I don't like you. I wish you well and hope you enjoy your life there. Maybe someday you will find that NJ is not an ideal place to live.