Wish List for NY Racing

[NY BRED]

Maybe a politician is lurking but IF,(big word) NY paused for a second
and blinked on tradition and successfully overturned any objections from the
Standardbred circuit, why not consider night time racing with the first race
starting at 7:30 pm with 15-17 minutes between racing?

The majority of the public don't have the ability or desire to go to the
track during the week,nor can they follow live racing while working, or doing their usual chores on the weekend.


Night time racing, coupled with a racino might create an entirely different
situation, especially during spring and fall.

I've already posted my preferred track for this wish list would be Belmont,
and most of my friends agree this would be a positive move for NYRA
to gain back their audience and possibly attract new customers should
the Racino finally evolve.

Add a high end Hotel, possibly a Steeplechase type amusement center,
decent food at reasonable prices, and maybe the attendance would rival
California.

Or, we can await the next round of political havoc and post new rec's..

[slewis]

Maybe a politician is lurking but IF,(big word) NY paused for a second
and blinked on tradition and successfully overturned any objections from the
Standardbred circuit, why not consider night time racing with the first race
starting at 7:30 pm with 15-17 minutes between racing?

The majority of the public don't have the ability or desire to go to the
track during the week,nor can they follow live racing while working, or doing their usual chores on the weekend.


Night time racing, coupled with a racino might create an entirely different
situation, especially during spring and fall.

I've already posted my preferred track for this wish list would be Belmont,
and most of my friends agree this would be a positive move for NYRA
to gain back their audience and possibly attract new customers should
the Racino finally evolve.

Add a high end Hotel, possibly a Steeplechase type amusement center,
decent food at reasonable prices, and maybe the attendance would rival
California.

Or, we can await the next round of political havoc and post new rec's..

I actually suggested that to Barry schawartz and Terry Meyocks years ago and Terry said "We could mever do that to the Rooney's"
Of course it's a very different situation today.
I think great idea.:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[the little guy]

Terry said "We could mever do that to the Rooney's"



Finally you have posted something I believe.

[slewis]

Finally you have posted something I believe.

You mean something you agree with...... by suggesting that that you dont believe posts that I claim as factual (for example: the fact that I've had guys like McLaughlin, Pletcher and Hennig ask me why Mud calks are effective resulting in them using them on their horses) you're posting to everyone on this forum that I'm full of s**t.

I challenge anyone to refute anything I've posted as "BS" or a fairytale story.

BTW, when is your employer going to force the tote company to replace the LCD TV/betting terminals that are 8 yrs old in the paid seating areas. I challenge Blubber boy Haywood or Duncker to tell me the order of horses crossing the finish line, which are just a BLURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. on those 15ms units. (If that's too much tech talk, google ms response time in LCD's)

It wont even come out of NYRA's pocket, it's the tote companies responsibility.

Do you see what Im talking about when I constantly yap about bad management.

[the little guy]

You have lost the credibility your accurate posts may deserve with the plethora of, at best, conjecture filled recent posts you have made.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

[Indulto]

Everyone is indeed entitled to his opinion, but some opinions are more informed than others in certain areas.

Slewis' perspective is much appreciated. The insights and even speculation he's been WILLING to share are among the most interesting and plausible of those I've encountered at racing-related websites and in the press. I doubt there are many other challengers to his credibility here.

[the little guy]

I'm WILLING to share this....I think you're a hoot and a half Indulto.....a literal internet Don Rickles. Though, I'm not sure he's got anything on you in the old cheap shot department. Keep fighting the dirty fight, dude, it seems to suit you.

[slewis]

You have lost the credibility your accurate posts may deserve with the plethora of, at best, conjecture filled recent posts you have made.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

When I post on this forum, I will often make it very clear when I give information that can be construed as opinion, as opposed to that which is factual.

Useing the word "plethora" in the context above is conjecture to an extreme that can be settled only one way.

Give everyone factual examples and refute what I say, or else....

Yes, it's very debatable what an outcome would have been had the NYRA situation been ajudicated. I still believe I'm correct, and have spoken to enough people in the legal field that agree with me. (Also, some that dont).


Regardless, as far as my credibility goes..... Take your best shot.....GIVE EXAMPLES AND COME TO MY WINDOW.

I'll take your action.

[the little guy]

Don't make me come up to the main floor and rough you up! The Irish dancers are next door.....I may bring them up as my army.

[Imriledup]

I actually suggested that to Barry schawartz and Terry Meyocks years ago and Terry said "We could mever do that to the Rooney's"
Of course it's a very different situation today.
I think great idea.:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

If Belmont had some night racing in the summer, Yonkers would benefit. The betting pools are so small there anyway, its not like they can get any smaller.

For every person who didn't go to YR because of the night racing at Belmont, they would make up handle by someone who was never going to bet Yonkers in the first place placing a few bets at Belmont.

There's money out there to be had, everyone has to work together to get this done.

[slewis]

If Belmont had some night racing in the summer, Yonkers would benefit. The betting pools are so small there anyway, its not like they can get any smaller.

For every person who didn't go to YR because of the night racing at Belmont, they would make up handle by someone who was never going to bet Yonkers in the first place placing a few bets at Belmont.

There's money out there to be had, everyone has to work together to get this done.

Oh I agree. Might be tougher to push through at Belmont because the surrounding community (Floral Park) would seriously oppose it.

Aqueduct would be a slam dunk. Both would be a shot in the arm for NY racing.

Even though the twilight racing has never caught on , just the increased out of town handle from the Pacific time zone would help,



I also need to negogiate the "N" key better when attempting to spell "Never".

[JustRalph]

Tom, you must be Rodney Dangerfield......................

[Indulto]

I'm WILLING to share this....I think you're a hoot and a half Indulto.....a literal internet Don Rickles. Though, I'm not sure he's got anything on you in the old cheap shot department. Keep fighting the dirty fight, dude, it seems to suit you.My, my. Touchy, aren't we? Interesting that you liken me to Rickles when you're the one who uses words like "moron" and "stupid" in your put downs. It's hard to stay clean when wrestling with pigs, even smart ones.:jump:

[thespaah]

Maybe a politician is lurking but IF,(big word) NY paused for a second
and blinked on tradition and successfully overturned any objections from the
Standardbred circuit, why not consider night time racing with the first race
starting at 7:30 pm with 15-17 minutes between racing?

The majority of the public don't have the ability or desire to go to the
track during the week,nor can they follow live racing while working, or doing their usual chores on the weekend.


Night time racing, coupled with a racino might create an entirely different
situation, especially during spring and fall.

I've already posted my preferred track for this wish list would be Belmont,
and most of my friends agree this would be a positive move for NYRA
to gain back their audience and possibly attract new customers should
the Racino finally evolve.

Add a high end Hotel, possibly a Steeplechase type amusement center,
decent food at reasonable prices, and maybe the attendance would rival
California.

Or, we can await the next round of political havoc and post new rec's..\
Night racing is good for consumers, bad for horsemen and the help.
I think some traditions are worth holding on to. While others have lost their luster.
Perhaps it's time for NYRA to have a serious look at putting up lights at Bel and Aqu. Especially Aqu.
The horsement will protest though. Night time racing just makes their day that much longer. And there are those horsemen who insist their hoirses cannot race under the lights.
But the rules of the game have changed. When there are less than 2,000 people in the stands at Belmont on a sunny spring weekday, something has got to change.

[misscashalot]

Everyone is indeed entitled to his opinion, but some opinions are more informed than others in certain areas.

Slewis' perspective is much appreciated. The insights and even speculation he's been WILLING to share are among the most interesting and plausible of those I've encountered at racing-related websites and in the press. I doubt there are many other challengers to his credibility here.

I agree.

[NY BRED]

Yikes, I didn't mean to cause such heated discussions, I'm simply
looking for a way to improve the game we all (appear)to love in NY.

I realize tradition is the big roadblock for twilight/night racing, but pause and realize that 20 years ago racinos would not exactly strike the fancy of
any operator as the attendance, though low, didn't sink to the levels
witnessed over the past few years.

As respects trainers fighting long hours, night and twilight racing is
a reality and as Slewis stated, could draw revenue from the West coast to a far greater degree asthe current against program.

Think how great it would be to at least experiment at Saratoga on
a friday night ,which undoubtedly would be more pleasant than boiling in the sun at 100 + degrees.(maybe 85 degrees in the shade).The local business
folks, including recreational owners(golf, horse back riding, Lake George)
would undoubtedly win for at least one day with increased revenues.


Speaking of changes, I was at Club Med yesterday, and talk about
new moves!

This facility will be hosting free Poker tournaments on Friday nights, and
I believe Texas Hold um tournaments on Thursday nights.Winners will be sent
to a big tournament in Vegas..

I'm wondering how this is happening given the state of relationships
between NJ casinos and the NJ racing commission.

Whatever the rationale, at least this Commission is taking steps to
provide innovative solutions to draw new fans.