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Show Me the Wire

03-11-2009, 02:47 PM

Bubba X

03-11-2009, 03:35 PM

Ashamed. Cringing. Enraged.

How will the story end?

NJ Stinks

03-11-2009, 03:42 PM

"Dismantling the Constitution" huh? I can see nothing has changed here in the last week.

Anyway, to answer your question, I had 8 years of dread. But none lately. :ThmbUp:

Tom

03-11-2009, 03:55 PM

I feel your pain, SMTW.....I prefer to call him Porky Pig.

Talk about dismantling the constitution......why is this not getting media scrutiny? It is an outright unconstitutional assault on one religion.
You know they will revisit this...just regrouping right now. We all have to stand up to this abuse of our freedom, least we be next.

This is one that will legitimize militia groups.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09031009.html

ArlJim78

03-11-2009, 04:24 PM

oh yeah, its painful. I cringe whenever I hear that voice because its nothing but a big con job. using "never waste a good crisis" as the motto and mantra of your presidency sickens my stomach. i can't believe how stupid the US has become.

ddog

03-11-2009, 04:28 PM

I cringe everytime someone referres to "President Obama." I find myself enraged when he appears on the television and lies to our faces. I quickly learned that if something comes out of the mouth of Barack H. Obama, it most likely means the Exact Opposite is true. I am ashamed of our government, and frankly, I am ashamed the man is able to obtain power while dismantling the Constitution right in front of our faces.

for a self styled "guru" you sure nuff are slow on the uptake.

you are just NOW understanding that the goal of our political class especially at the highest levels is not truth-telling and that none of them give a shit about the constitution if it doesn't seem to fit their at-the-moment-desires.

If you were serious then concerning "hope and change" ,at least for you, a well needed change seems to have come about.
:lol: :lol:

I on the ball patriot.

climb down out of your treehouse and see it for what it is.

Show Me the Wire

03-11-2009, 06:55 PM

for a self styled "guru" you sure nuff are slow on the uptake.

you are just NOW understanding that the goal of our political class especially at the highest levels is not truth-telling and that none of them give a shit about the constitution if it doesn't seem to fit their at-the-moment-desires.

If you were serious then concerning "hope and change" ,at least for you, a well needed change seems to have come about.
:lol: :lol:

I on the ball patriot.

climb down out of your treehouse and see it for what it is.

Self styled "Guru". Okay, I'll bite.

BTW never was an Obama supporter, which you should know if you have read my previous posts regarding Obama.

I am just experiencing empathy with hcap, sec, ljb, zilly, NJ Stinks etc. with how they felt about the word "president" being associated with President Bush. I feel that crippling pain now, because of the association of the word "president" with Barack H. Obama.

Bubba:

The story will have the beginning of a happy ending with the ouster of Pelosi and Reid resulting from the mid-term elections.

hcap

03-11-2009, 07:49 PM

hcap

03-11-2009, 08:05 PM

Hey, why don't you guys start a collection of "Obamaisms".
I bet it will bring a little smile if you can think about some ditty he said way back when.

Of course you can always laugh at his so-called birth certificate, or the word "socialism" all by itself. Don't take much to amuse you gentlemen.
Just consider the state of the Republican party, and how irrelevant you are.

That does amuses the rest of us

Tom

03-11-2009, 08:08 PM

But what has Obummer told us, hcap?

He told us all bills would be available on line for viewing for 5 days.
That was a lie.

He told us no lobbyist in his cabinet.
That was a lie.

He told us no more earmarks.
Just signed off on about 9,000 of them. Another lie.

So far, Bush 1 Obummer 0

Show Me the Wire

03-11-2009, 08:37 PM

Don't forget about the presidential signing statement used today. A practice Mr. Obama criticized President Bush (oh that felt good to type) about was used by Mr. Obama today.

Also very difficult to make Obamaisms without the word or phrase being typed into the teleprompter.

Shemp Howard

03-11-2009, 08:56 PM

NJ Stinks~

You probably think Jon Corzine is doing a bang up job as well.:ThmbDown:

hcap

03-11-2009, 09:01 PM

Also very difficult to make Obamaisms without the word or phrase being typed into the teleprompter.Since he writes much of what he says, even if this occurs as much as georgies promptor use, at least he is the originator of what he reads.

Btw, if you watched any of the one on one interviews, where no teleprompter was used, he still comes across a few heads above your famed leader georgie the marble mouthed.

Obamisms may be your only resort.

ArlJim78

03-11-2009, 09:38 PM

my favorites are when Obama was interviewed by Stephanopolous and got his religion wrong "my Muslim faith", or when he said that he visited 57 or 58 states.

no wonder his school records have been vaporized.

Relwob Owner

03-11-2009, 09:46 PM

I cringe everytime someone referres to "President Obama." I find myself enraged when he appears on the television and lies to our faces. I quickly learned that if something comes out of the mouth of Barack H. Obama, it most likely means the Exact Opposite is true. I am ashamed of our government, and frankly, I am ashamed the man is able to obtain power while dismantling the Constitution right in front of our faces.

He may be doing it but it isnt as if the constitution wasnt destroyed by Bush and more specifically Cheney in the last 8 years.....start with the Constitution and then go on to Ethics-Cheney started a war and profited greatly off of it and destroyed thousands of lives in the process-Barack is going to have to do a ton to "out-suck" the last regime

boxcar

03-12-2009, 12:15 AM

Yes that feeling about the moniker "President Bush" was painful.
One of my solutions was to remember the vast liturgy of "bushisms".
Obama may flub his lines. May say some extra "ahs" or "ughs" occaisionally. But you guys will never have the same bumbling extreme abject marble mouth that we could laugh about, and find some comic relief.

Obama has yet to tell us "The French have no word for entrepreneur"

Yeah...but he did tell us there were 57 states. And he also didn't know which states in the union border on his home state of Illinois, e.g. Kentucky. He's by no stretch the sharpest tool in the shed. This is one of the big reasons he's all style and no substance.

Boxcar

boxcar

03-12-2009, 12:18 AM

He may be doing it but it isnt as if the constitution wasnt destroyed by Bush and more specifically Cheney in the last 8 years.....start with the Constitution and then go on to Ethics-Cheney started a war and profited greatly off of it and destroyed thousands of lives in the process-Barack is going to have to do a ton to "out-suck" the last regime

He's already doing it. Where have you been -- in exile somewhere? :rolleyes:
You don't know that the private sector is under a full scale assault by this Marxist pig?

Boxcar

Secretariat

03-12-2009, 08:24 AM

I can understand how the word President and Obama may stick in some Repubs throat. We've been enduring it for the last eight long years. Get used to it. 2012 is a ways away. And rest assured I will not call you unpatriotic for feeling this way.

I saw another thread on 911, and just wanted to pass on a recommendation for a really great book on the timeline of 911. It's by Paul Thompson and it's called The Terror Timeline. I've put a link up with a couple of free samples from the book.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Awgp3H5mBXgC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=Richard+Clarke's+first+warning+to+president+Bus h&source=bl&ots=zRnzjh2rVG&sig=GFaz2dCuhVSr-MlGoPcwreur6cw&hl=en&ei=p_e4SZWyF4-ctwe6g9GpBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPP3,M1

“We recognize it’s a dangerous world. I know this nation still has enemies, and we cannot expect them to be idle. And that’s why security is my first reponsibility. And I will not permit any course that leaves America undefended.” GW Bush, August 21, 2001 (while on vacation in Crawford, Texas from August 4-30, 2001. Cheney also spent August off in Wyoming )

September 4,2001 – Richard Clarke writes a critical memo to … Rice. Neither President Bush, nor Vice President Cheney attended. Clarke criticizes the Defense Department for reluctance to use force against al-Qaeda and the CIA for impeding the deployment of unmanned Predator drones to hunt for Bin Laden.. According to the Washington Post, the memo urges officials to imagine a day when hundreds of Americans lay dead from a terrorist attack and ask themselves what could have been done.”

“On January 24,2001 I requested an urgent meeting of the NSC principals committee to address the al Qida threat. That meeting took place on September 4, 2001….The Bush adminstration saw terrorism policy as important, but not urgent, prior to 911. The difficulty in obtaining the first Cabinet level (Principals) policy meeting on terrorism and the limited Principals involvement sent unfortunate signals to the bureacracy about the adminstration’s attitude toward the al Qida threat.” – Richard Clarke , testimony to the 911 Commission.

Pell Mell

03-12-2009, 09:46 AM

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91407

For my money, this about sums it up.

Tom

03-12-2009, 09:56 AM

boxcar

03-12-2009, 11:11 AM

Anything in that time line about the 60 or so terrorists released from Gitmo who are back operating as terrorists again, including 008?

Anything in it about when Mutha called of boys murderers, when they were cleared, and when he failed apologize?

Anyting in there about Reid declaring failure in Iraq?

Anything in there about Carville, on the mroning of 9-11, declaring his jope the president, nothis policies would fail?

I don't need a book, Sec, I got real life.

Actually Reid declared on the Senate floor, just prior to the implementation of the surge war strategy, that we lost the war in Iraq. (I betcha that made our brave troops feel really great.)

Now, the mainstream media is making much to do about Rush's recent declaration that BO has lost the war on restoring our bad economy. Everyone want's to hang him for saying this, whereas the MM wasn't critical of Reid at all. More evidence of media bias.

Boxcar

Tom

03-12-2009, 11:55 AM

The mainstream media is a complete joke and 100% unreliable.
They have failed to do their jobs.

Any station that employs Wolf Blitzer is a joke.

Relwob Owner

03-12-2009, 03:34 PM

He's already doing it. Where have you been -- in exile somewhere? :rolleyes:
You don't know that the private sector is under a full scale assault by this Marxist pig?

Boxcar

Yeah, lay all of the bad things and problems on Obama and the Dems.....Republicans are certainly squeaky clean as this link will attest.....just got out of exile:)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/12/report-congresswoman-helped-steer-bailout-funds-bank-family-ties/

Tom

03-12-2009, 03:41 PM

Republicans didn't try to install socialism.
Big difference.

Relwob Owner

03-12-2009, 03:46 PM

Republicans didn't try to install socialism.
Big difference.

What is the ethical difference between trying to install socialism(which may be true but is debatable) and trying to inappropriately direct 700 million dollars.....if Socialism is what Obama is trying to install, what sort of government would you say that Bush had going in the last 8 years?

JustRalph

03-12-2009, 04:23 PM

Dick Cheney did not profit from the war.............

we have been down that road...........Relwob.........read up on it

Relwob Owner

03-12-2009, 04:56 PM

Dick Cheney did not profit from the war.............

we have been down that road...........Relwob.........read up on it

I have read up on it there buddy and thinking he didnt is just about as ignorant as thinking that Obama's stimulus plan is going to work.

Republican or Democrat, you have to have Blinkers on to not realize that Cheney is a scary, greedy, evil man.

Boris

03-12-2009, 08:33 PM

Yes that feeling about the moniker "President Bush" was painful.
One of my solutions was to remember the vast liturgy of "bushisms".
Obama may flub his lines. May say some extra "ahs" or "ughs" occaisionally. But you guys will never have the same bumbling extreme abject marble mouth that we could laugh about, and find some comic relief.

Obama has yet to tell us "The French have no word for entrepreneur"
At the risk of bringing this thread back on topic, are you freaking kidding me? Have you heard of Joe "Stand Up There Chuck" Biden? Bozo in size 10 shoes and a hair hat. Here's a link for you Skippy.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=biden+gaffe

Secretariat

03-12-2009, 08:48 PM

Dick Cheney did not profit from the war.............

we have been down that road...........Relwob.........read up on it

Really?

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1117-22.htm

Dick Cheney: War Profiteer
by Tom Turnipseed

"As Defense Secretary, Mr. Cheney commissioned a study for the U.S. Department of Defense by Brown and Root Services (now Kellogg, Brown and Root), a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton. The study recommended that private firms like Halliburton should take over logistical support programs for U.S. military operations around the world. Just two years after he was Secretary of Defense, Cheney stepped through the revolving door linking the Department of Defense with defense contractors and became CEO of Halliburton. Halliburton was the principal beneficiary of Cheney’s privatization efforts for our military’s logistical support and Cheney was paid $44 million for five year's work with them before he slipped back through the revolving door of war profiteering to become Vice-President of the United States. When asked about the money he received from Halliburton, Cheney said. "I tell you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it." "

...

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) recently asserted that Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.

The Congressional Research Service has concluded that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” whether or not the holder of the options donates the proceeds to charities, and deferred compensation is also a financial interest.

Calling on Cheney to sever his financial ties to Halliburton, Lautenberg points out that the company has already raked in more than $10 billion for work in Iraq, and was handed some of the first Katrina contracts. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and there have been numerous allegations of over charging for services. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company also built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay. Lautenberg said, "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it.”

Relwob Owner

03-12-2009, 08:53 PM

Really?

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1117-22.htm

Dick Cheney: War Profiteer
by Tom Turnipseed

"As Defense Secretary, Mr. Cheney commissioned a study for the U.S. Department of Defense by Brown and Root Services (now Kellogg, Brown and Root), a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton. The study recommended that private firms like Halliburton should take over logistical support programs for U.S. military operations around the world. Just two years after he was Secretary of Defense, Cheney stepped through the revolving door linking the Department of Defense with defense contractors and became CEO of Halliburton. Halliburton was the principal beneficiary of Cheney’s privatization efforts for our military’s logistical support and Cheney was paid $44 million for five year's work with them before he slipped back through the revolving door of war profiteering to become Vice-President of the United States. When asked about the money he received from Halliburton, Cheney said. "I tell you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it." "

...

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) recently asserted that Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.

The Congressional Research Service has concluded that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” whether or not the holder of the options donates the proceeds to charities, and deferred compensation is also a financial interest.

Calling on Cheney to sever his financial ties to Halliburton, Lautenberg points out that the company has already raked in more than $10 billion for work in Iraq, and was handed some of the first Katrina contracts. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and there have been numerous allegations of over charging for services. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company also built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay. Lautenberg said, "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it.”

Thank you for beating me to that punch.....I am going to enjoy JustRalph scrambling to find some sort of defense or rebuttal-hopefully, he is "reading up on it" just like he recommended I should do.....

Secretariat

03-12-2009, 08:54 PM

Republicans didn't try to install socialism.
Big difference.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Economy/Story?id=6885587&page=1

Nationalization: Is It the Only Answer to Save Banks?
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham Says the Option Should Be on the Table
By JOHN HENDREN
WASHINGTON, Feb. 15, 2009
118 comments

A year ago, it would have been unthinkable: Sen. Lindsey Graham advocating a government takeover of private banks -- but that is exactly what he suggested today

"I would not take off the idea of nationalizing the banks" from the table, Graham, R-S.C., told George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week" program

"This idea of nationalizing banks is not comfortable, but I think we have gotten so many toxic assets spread throughout the banking and financial community throughout the world that we're going to have to do something that no one ever envisioned a year ago, no one likes," Graham said. "But, to me, banking and housing are the root cause of this problem. And I'm very much afraid that any program to salvage the bank is going to require the government.."

"The fact that Lindsay Graham, a conservative Republican, says that nationalization should be on the table, I think underscores the sense of crisis," Stuart Rothenberg, editor of The Rothenberg Political Report, told ABC News. "And that could give the president a good deal of political capital and leeway."

Speaking on ABC's "Nightline," Obama himself dismissed the idea of a government takeover of the banks just last week.

....

Looks like it's Republican Graham pushing nationalization here, not Obama. Is Graham a socialist?

Secretariat

03-12-2009, 08:59 PM

I don't need a book, Sec, I got real life.

Was the above quote by Tom or this guy?

Relwob Owner

03-12-2009, 09:01 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Economy/Story?id=6885587&page=1

Nationalization: Is It the Only Answer to Save Banks?
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham Says the Option Should Be on the Table
By JOHN HENDREN
WASHINGTON, Feb. 15, 2009
118 comments

A year ago, it would have been unthinkable: Sen. Lindsey Graham advocating a government takeover of private banks -- but that is exactly what he suggested today

"I would not take off the idea of nationalizing the banks" from the table, Graham, R-S.C., told George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week" program

"This idea of nationalizing banks is not comfortable, but I think we have gotten so many toxic assets spread throughout the banking and financial community throughout the world that we're going to have to do something that no one ever envisioned a year ago, no one likes," Graham said. "But, to me, banking and housing are the root cause of this problem. And I'm very much afraid that any program to salvage the bank is going to require the government.."

"The fact that Lindsay Graham, a conservative Republican, says that nationalization should be on the table, I think underscores the sense of crisis," Stuart Rothenberg, editor of The Rothenberg Political Report, told ABC News. "And that could give the president a good deal of political capital and leeway."

Speaking on ABC's "Nightline," Obama himself dismissed the idea of a government takeover of the banks just last week.

....

Looks like it's Republican Graham pushing nationalization here, not Obama. Is Graham a socialist?

Funny how Obama has been in office and he seems to be getting an incredible amount of crap for his solutions to problems that were left for him.....so many posters have said that the government should be less involved---well, that worked out well didnt it? Our government was asleep for 8 years and never saw any of this coming nor did anything about it. Noone can criticize Obama without acknowledging that he ionherited this mess and waiting to see if we are in better shape in the future.

jognlope

03-12-2009, 09:17 PM

Giving people the financial mechanism to purchase health care from a free market system already in place is not socialism. Socialism would be if the government actually ran the health care system, not just helping Americans finance health care.

Tom

03-13-2009, 08:01 AM

Obummer voted in favor of every bill that created the so-called crap left for him.
He knew going in exactly what was happening, so his "I inherited a mess" garbage is not applicable. He did not inherit itl he sought it.

Sec, I said republicans, you reply with republican.
Really, Sec, you have slipped in the realm of nonsense posting.
Try reading posts and understanding them before your automatic, Magic 8 Ball replies. You are in power, man, act like it! Show us some leadership!:lol:

JustRalph

03-14-2009, 08:45 PM

Relwob Owner

03-14-2009, 08:58 PM

we don't have to argue the Cheney thing again.........we have been down this road before............

Cheney put all of that in trust before he became Vice Prez.......just like Bush did. They didn't have any control over the trust and they did not know whether the options were still good or not.

To imply that he started a war, which is what you are doing, to make his options more valuable is stupid. You believe what you want.........

Btw, Cheney gave all that money to Charity............. anyway.......so how the hell did he profit?

Btw, I love Cheney.............because he pisses you guys off so much

Relwob.....why don't you just admit who you are. You scream about both parties being out of control. Yet you act like Sec and Hcaps long lost brothers...............

Well, you act like you are Bush and Cheney's accountant.....

Enough abt that-agree to disagree, I guess.

I will admit who I am-a guy who doesnt know too much abt politics and came over here to learn...probably jumped in too quickly posting and am now pulling back the reigns a bit----dont regret it, though, because it seems like if you come over here, you gotta come strong.

Gotta get back to that other thread abt russia because it is really good....learning some stuff I dont really want to know abt BO and his foreign policy.

You wont hear too much more from me---gonna just read for now:)

Secretariat

03-15-2009, 10:41 PM

Well, you act like you are Bush and Cheney's accountant.....

Enough abt that-agree to disagree, I guess.

I will admit who I am-a guy who doesnt know too much abt politics and came over here to learn...probably jumped in too quickly posting and am now pulling back the reigns a bit----dont regret it, though, because it seems like if you come over here, you gotta come strong.

Gotta get back to that other thread abt russia because it is really good....learning some stuff I dont really want to know abt BO and his foreign policy.

You wont hear too much more from me---gonna just read for now:)

Relwob Owner,

Don't sell your self short. Your intutition about what's going are valuabel contributitions. Don't be bullied by the bombast of the dittoheads here. They are wrong about Cheney. They were wrong about Bush, and they're wrong about Obama. Rush Limpballs tells them what to think and then they regurgitate those ideas. Just because they say them with lots of passion doesn't make them right. Just desperate.

And JR, the excuse "I gave the money to charity doesn't fly." I'm sure the Dick wrote all of that charity money off his income tax. This has got to be the most laughable excuse you've given yet. Think about it.

A guy makes a fortune off no bid contracts and manipulation of procurements. Pockets millions, and then says oh, I'm giving the fruits of that taxpayer money to charities. The charities of my choosing - like Pray Before Torturing. Then I'm gonna write off the profits I made on my income tax form which went to my hand selected charities AND then I'm gonna shoot a friend in the face, buy some popcorn and go down to Guantanamo and masturbate while watching a couple of guys get tortured.

JustRalph

03-15-2009, 10:52 PM

Relwob Owner

03-16-2009, 07:44 AM

Relwob Owner,

Don't sell your self short. Your intutition about what's going are valuabel contributitions. Don't be bullied by the bombast of the dittoheads here. They are wrong about Cheney. They were wrong about Bush, and they're wrong about Obama. Rush Limpballs tells them what to think and then they regurgitate those ideas. Just because they say them with lots of passion doesn't make them right. Just desperate.

And JR, the excuse "I gave the money to charity doesn't fly." I'm sure the Dick wrote all of that charity money off his income tax. This has got to be the most laughable excuse you've given yet. Think about it.

A guy makes a fortune off no bid contracts and manipulation of procurements. Pockets millions, and then says oh, I'm giving the fruits of that taxpayer money to charities. The charities of my choosing - like Pray Before Torturing. Then I'm gonna write off the profits I made on my income tax form which went to my hand selected charities AND then I'm gonna shoot a friend in the face, buy some popcorn and go down to Guantanamo and masturbate while watching a couple of guys get tortured.

I appreciate the support!:) However, even if I was right about anything, I came across as an ass and kind of got sucked into the kind of personal stuff that isnt my style normally. Plus, I am new and still just want to pick my spots and earn my stripes so to speak....

Tom

03-16-2009, 07:49 AM

Rush Limpballs tells them what to think and then they regurgitate those ideas.

Coming for you, Sec, this is hilarious..."Mr. Read this link, it is what I think today" :lol:

"So Sec, what do you think?"
"I don't know, my email is down."

ba-dum

Secretariat

03-16-2009, 02:46 PM

Coming for you, Sec, this is hilarious..."Mr. Read this link, it is what I think today" :lol:

"So Sec, what do you think?"
"I don't know, my email is down."

ba-dum

As Ronald Reagan would say, "there you go again."

When I post a link it is to provide information or to substantiate a point BECAUSE guys like yourself used to say back it up, where's your proof? when I now post a link now you're upset. Well, you can't please everyone.

The difference with Limpballs, is for many Republicans HE is their only source of news. They drink his crap down ,and regurgitate it as gospel without any investigation themselves. They take pride in being "dittoheads" ,like yourself.

And JR, as to classless, you might want to reread 90% of your posts.

Tom

03-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Still no clue what ditto-head means, I see.:lol:

And fyi, most of us do NOT agree with Rush on everything. But, hey, why let facts ruin a good rant?

JR classless? Wow, that is really a stretch.

JustRalph

03-16-2009, 05:17 PM

NJ Stinks

03-16-2009, 06:28 PM

Just a question......... if Limbaugh is the only source of news for so many Republicans, how in the hell does Fox News beat the pants off of MSNBC and CNN every single day of the year?

How do so many "right leaning" websites rank in the top 20 of all political websites? For that matter how come Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity do so well? Why are there 50 or 60 Conservative Talk hosts regionally who all beat the pants off of Air America every day?

Big deal. If the conservative media is so popular and that is somehow significant, why have conservatives been drilled in the last two elections?

Just curious.

delayjf

03-16-2009, 06:45 PM

Because Republicans stopped being conservative.

Lefty

03-16-2009, 07:08 PM

lost last 2 elections because the mainstream press prefers to take a polical stand against Repubs. And yes, we have too many so-called moderates in the party. Reagan won 2 elections by being astaunch conservative. Repubs need to get bk to that.

delayjf

03-16-2009, 07:38 PM

A guy makes a fortune off no bid contracts and manipulation of procurements. Pockets millions, and then says oh, I'm giving the fruits of that taxpayer money to charities. The charities of my choosing - like Pray Before Torturing. Then I'm gonna write off the profits I made on my income tax form which went to my hand selected charities

Seriously Sec, you don’t know when you’re beat. This whole Cheney making money of the war thing is flat out ridiculous. I think if you search close enough somebody posted a copy of the trust that outlined Cheney’s donation of his Halliburton Stock options. And what’s wrong with Cheney picking the charities the money went to or taking a tax right off? If it was your money would you let someone else dictate to you were you should donate it to.

The real conspiracy is the money that Obama and the liberal left have made in this entire mortgage crisis. You don’t think he was getting kickbacks and commissions from his pals at Acorn, Freddie – Fannie. Here’s the kicker, after he and Soro’s got all the banks to go along and rob this nation of trillions in wealth – probably funneled to banks in Cuba, Kenya and any where else Soros has clout. They are going to pay their banking buddies back WITH TAXPAYER MONEY. This whole thing was set up piece by piece starting with Carter and the CRA. It was put on hold while Reagan and Bush Sr. where in the White House, then set into motion under Clinton. 9/11 was actually a left wing plot designed to occupy the White House so they would not notice the financial shenanigans taking place until it was too late. With the trusted Greenspan on the take as well, nobody would question a thing. Except that President Bush did take notice and attempted to rein Fannie / Freddie in – but guess who blocked him – the Democrats. To make a long story short, liberal elites get filthy rich and replace the US democratic capitalist system with a socialist system – that’s the REAL conspiracy.

JustRalph

03-16-2009, 09:15 PM

Big deal. If the conservative media is so popular and that is somehow significant, why have conservatives been drilled in the last two elections?

Just curious.

your question is without merit. The two things have nothing to do with each other.

Tom

03-16-2009, 10:51 PM

Sec, are you outraged over the fact that Dodd, Frank, and Obama all received significant money from the housing market and fought tooth and nail to prevent Bush and McCain from implementing more stringent controls?
I would say that is far more serious than making money on contracts.

ddog

03-17-2009, 05:03 PM

Tom

03-17-2009, 07:06 PM

Wake up dog, it has already been posted here on video.

Show Me the Wire

03-18-2009, 04:00 PM

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Also very difficult to make Obamaisms without the word or phrase being typed into the teleprompter.

I stand corrected. Apparently it was not too difficult for Mr. Obama to make a fool out of himself, while using his teleprompter