The Great Orator........ NOT!!

[JustRalph]

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/05/obama-cant-break-the-teleprompter-habit-either/

President Barack Obama doesn’t go anywhere without his TelePrompter.

The textbook-sized panes of glass holding the president’s prepared remarks follow him wherever he speaks.

Resting on top of a tall, narrow pole, they flank his podium during speeches in the White House’s stately parlors. They stood next to him on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Indiana as he pitched his economic stimulus plan. They traveled to the Department of Transportation this week and were in the Capitol Rotunda last month when he paid tribute to Abraham Lincoln in six-minute prepared remarks.

Obama’s reliance on the teleprompter is unusual – not only because he is famous for his oratory, but because no other president has used one so consistently and at so many events large and small.

more at the link

[Tom]

Ignore that man behind the curtain.
I am the all powerful Wizard of OZ!:lol:

[boxcar]

BO's lack of critical thought, a solid set of core principles and values in which he truly believes and self-loathing doubts about himself are the major reasons behind his total lack of spontaneity. This moral and intellectual bankruptcy are precisely why he would never take Rush up on his offer to debate the issues on radio. Rush would simply bury him alive -- crushing BO and all his ambiguous Fluff under Rush's avalanche of Substance. With BO, I believe Rush could have both hands tied behind his back -- just to make it fair. :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

[JBmadera]

He’s just a puppet on a string……wonder who the puppeteers are – Ivy League, Limousine Liberal, Socialists?

JB

[jballscalls]

who cares if he reads from a teleprompter?? what does that matter about anything?

[boxcar]

Go back and try to understand post #3. If you still don't get it, go back to school and try to learn for once in your life how to think.

Boxcar

[jballscalls]

Go back and try to understand post #3. If you still don't get it, go back to school and try to learn for once in your life how to think.

Boxcar

So giving rush an oratory BJ on a website is original thought?

[boxcar]

So giving rush an oratory BJ on a website is original thought?

Not surprised reprobate trash like you would come up with that thought. Par for the course with you libs. Stay the course. Continue flying your true colors.
(It's no wonder at all that moronic libs need affirmative action-type help from the government on the radio airwaves.) :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[ddog]

or of course , the use of same shows a disciplined mind that wants to make sure he gets his points across as he intends.

maybe GW should have been coached the same as he clearly was a shoot from the hip kind of guy. sadly for him he had not drawn the weapon before the shot.

not what you want in that job.


unless the posters that critized this are just throwing crap at the wall in jest then it shows a very serious lack of understanding about how points of view should be obtained and communicated.

it would seem the atmospherics are all important to that kind.

the fluff in other words.

[boxcar]

or of course , the use of same shows a disciplined mind that wants to make sure he gets his points across as he intends.

maybe GW should have been coached the same as he clearly was a shoot from the hip kind of guy. sadly for him he had not drawn the weapon before the shot.

not what you want in that job.


unless the posters that critized this are just throwing crap at the wall in jest then it shows a very serious lack of understanding about how points of view should be obtained and communicated.

it would seem the atmospherics are all important to that kind.

the fluff in other words.

Another shallow thinker on this forum. Scripts or teleprompters are no indicators of "disciplined minds" because they are used as crutches. A real disciplined mind needs no such devices designed largely to assist the morally or intellectually crippled.

Boxcar

[ddog]

Another shallow thinker on this forum. Scripts or teleprompters are no indicators of "disciplined minds" because they are used as crutches. A real disciplined mind needs no such devices designed largely to assist the morally or intellectually crippled.

Boxcar

you are so wrong its funny. strike that sad.
clearly you have no background of serious thought.

committing to written words(teleprompter and the like) is the best way to refine ones thoughts.

I think that has something to do with the thousand years of written words.

you know printing press , library that kind of crippling process.

maybe you would opt for the dark ages?
hmmmm , seems to fit your postings.

[boxcar]

you are so wrong its funny. strike that sad.
clearly you have no background of serious thought.

committing to written words(teleprompter and the like) is the best way to refine ones thoughts.

Only to people who are incapable of verbally articulating their thoughts spontaneously.

I think that has something to do with the thousand years of written words.

We're not talking about written communication. We're talking about verbal communication. Anyone who must lean on a script to effectively communicate verbally is morally and/or intellectually-challenged.

Boxcar

you know printing press , library that kind of crippling process

A fine invention for the written word.

maybe you would opt for the dark ages?
hmmmm , seems to fit your postings.

Maybe you should opt to learn the diff between verbal and written communication, so you can quit using straw man arguments. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[ddog]

Only to people who are incapable of verbally articulating their thoughts spontaneously.



We're not talking about written communication. We're talking about verbal communication. Anyone who must lean on a script to effectively communicate verbally is morally and/or intellectually-challenged.

Boxcar



A fine invention for the written word.



Maybe you should opt to learn the diff between verbal and written communication, so you can quit using straw man arguments. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

when you are giving speaches actually to look spontaneous you PRACTICE and have notes/text already. You see it shows a basic respect for your audience , you wish to be prepared and will put in the work to be so before you get up.

to claim otherwise makes me think you are 1 in a trillion on the genius scale, :lol: or you just don't have much experience in same.
I'll take the second.

[jballscalls]

Not surprised reprobate trash like you would come up with that thought. Par for the course with you libs. Stay the course. Continue flying your true colors.
(It's no wonder at all that moronic libs need affirmative action-type help from the government on the radio airwaves.) :rolleyes:

Boxcar

the funny thing is i never said anything disrespectful in my first post, i asked a question, i mean what does anyone care if someone uses a teleprompter??

and for some reason you chose to go on a personal attack on me and basically called me a moron for asking a question. seems kind of out of line. but maybe thats just me being an oversensitive liberal

[JustRalph]

people who tell the truth don't have to read it off a prompter

[Dahoss9698]

I don't expect an answer, but I'll try anyway. Did Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, etc use teleprompters also, or is this a new thing for someone giving a speech to use a teleprompter?

Also, what planet are those of you that think it's a good idea for the President of the United States to go on a radio show to debate his policies with a host living on? Did GW go on radio shows that opposed him and debate with them also? Or are we playing by a new set of rules now?

[jballscalls]

I don't expect an answer, but I'll try anyway. Did Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, etc use teleprompters also, or is this a new thing for someone giving a speech to use a teleprompter?

\?

I think the past few presidents have used them, since the technology has become available. Thats why i didn't get the original point of this thread and questioned it before (even though apparently questioning the idea of the thread did not represent thinking for myself)

here is an article about bush using phonetics on his teleprompter to assist with pronunciations.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKN2540350420070926

and here is an article from the seattle times that says presidents have been using them for 50 years, but usually just for more important speeches, where as obamarama uses them for every speech.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008819876_teleprompt06.html

[PaceAdvantage]

The article states that Obama uses prompters much more than any other recent president.And I guess the only way to get people to stop using personal attacks is to simply ban them at first offense. Deleting posts didn't work very well, especially since I can't be here 24/7, and personal attack threads take on lives of their own in very short order.

[boxcar]

people who tell the truth don't have to read it off a prompter

BINGO! You nailed it perfectly, JR. This is why I stated all along that the reason this guy is like a fish out of water without prepared script is that he either lacks the native intelligence and/or has a moral problem. And in his case, I believe it's both -- but it's certainly the latter. He cannot and would not dare debate Limbaugh, for example, because in the matter of minutes Rush would have this yo-yo tied up in knots because he cannot speak the truth. He dare not reveal what his real agenda is for America -- what he wants to do TO America -- how he wants to change the face of America -- because if he were to do that civil war would break out. I kid you not. This is how far left this whacko leans. Within the first 15 minutes of the debate Rush would pose some sharp, pointed question to him, and this is what we'd hear over the airwaves:

Ah..ah..well ah, ah, I think ah...ah that ah..maybe... uh, uh.... that uh..., etc., etc. , etc.

This is why he is very, very careful to always speak with a script in front him, lest he make any bid slip ups. He must be very careful to keep his real socialist agenda hidden. He cannot risk being spontaneous -- being himself -- revealing who he really is inside. Scripted speeches and carefully rehearsed town hall meetings, etc. help him to maintain his facade. (Look what happened when Joe the Plumber slipped through their defenses!) And do we have any evidence to support this contention? Of course, we do! This guy has been in office -- what 2 months? And he has clearly demonstrated that he's a hopeless serial liar. I can't even begin to imagine the extent of his lies by omission.

I'm glad someone on this forum gets it and understands what's going on with BO.

Boxcar

[highnote]

By the way, the patented way of spelling it is -- TelePrompTer.

I've been in the TV production business for 25 years. I own a few teleprompters and have rented them many times to production companies as well as operated them. Thank GOD for teleprompters. Obama and others like him are keeping people employed.

I knew the prompter operator who prompted for Bush I, Reagan and Clinton. He said Bush never went off script. Reagan of course was a natural. Clinton was the hardest to do prompter for because he always went off script and would start ad-libing.

I've done tons of political commercials for both Republican and Democrat candidates. They all use them.

I've done tons of live speeches for politicians, celebrities, CEOs, business people -- they all use them.

It looks much better asthetically reading from a prompter than it does looking down at notecards or 8.5x11 notebook paper. Is there a news anchor in the world that doesn't use them?

Bush II was actually a really good teleprompter reader. All his state of the union addresses were on prompter and he rarely stumbled. That means he rehearsed the hell out his scripts. Which is good. He's a pro.

During Bush IIs debates he was good without a prompter. As was Obama. So it's not like they need them. It's just easier and less fatiguing than trying to remember every single thing day in and day out and always getting the phrasing right. It's actually a good way to communicate.

Bottom line for me is that there are bigger things to worry about right now than our president's use of the prompter. And as someone who has been around the prompting business for 25 years, this teleprompter story is much ado about nothing. Must be a really, really, really, slow newsday. :D

Long live the TelePrompTer :jump: It's helping pay my mortgage and put my kids through school -- and I don't care if I rent to a democrat or republican -- as long as they pay the bill. :ThmbUp:

[kent]

Let me sum up two points:

1. BO is all talk. (Pun intended)

2. Savage is right, 'liberalism is a mental disorder.'

obluii

[Tom]

I don't expect an answer, but I'll try anyway. Did Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, etc use teleprompters also, or is this a new thing for someone giving a speech to use a teleprompter?

Also, what planet are those of you that think it's a good idea for the President of the United States to go on a radio show to debate his policies with a host living on? Did GW go on radio shows that opposed him and debate with them also? Or are we playing by a new set of rules now?

Yes, new rules now.
It was OBAMA who told people not to listen to Rush it was OBAMA's thugs who keep the attack machine focused on Rush and other desenters. It is OBAMA who has lied through his teeth at every turn.

Rush called him out on it. OBAMA has no guts to face him. OBAMA knows he is nothing but a stinking liar and has zero substance. OBAMA knows Rush would eat him for lunch.

YOUR president is a complete coward on every level.
A disgusting embarrasssment to this great nation.

The difference is Bush had class, Obama has none.

[boxcar]

Yes, new rules now.
It was OBAMA who told people not to listen to Rush it was OBAMA's thugs who keep the attack machine focused on Rush and other desenters. It is OBAMA who has lied through his teeth at every turn.

Rush called him out on it. OBAMA has no guts to face him. OBAMA knows he is nothing but a stinking liar and has zero substance. OBAMA knows Rush would eat him for lunch.

YOUR president is a complete coward on every level.
A disgusting embarrasssment to this great nation.

The difference is Bush had class, Obama has none.

And I would add to the above list also that the megabytes of irony here is that the libs are constantly whining and complaining about how they're not getting equal time on the radio airwaves -- clearly implying that liberalism would be accepted by all only if talk show scheduling or formatting were more "fair" -- yada, yada, yada. So, why wouldn't the head lib in the nation take Rush up on his offer? Rush is offering him equal time on his show. He's essentially telling him, "Come, make your case to America and I'll make mine". What could be fairer than that?

And I would also add to the list above that the Dems constantly claim that Rush is the head honcho of the Republican Party. So, why wouldn't BO and his team relish the idea of getting the opportunity to "take out" the big guy by giving him a thorough thrashing in a debate. BO has a golden opportunity to neutralize Rush's message. Why doesn't he take it?

Boxcar

[Tom]

Almost everywhere you find a lib radio show, you will find a failure.
The fact is, America is not interested.

[boxcar]

Almost everywhere you find a lib radio show, you will find a failure.
The fact is, America is not interested.

This is true. The latest lib fatality was Randi Rhodes. And this fact, too, is another huge reason BO would never take Rush up on his offer. If America hasn't bought into the liberal drivel all these years on radio, how do you think BO's socialist crap would be received on the radio in a debate? It wouldn't. And BO knows this. So what would he do in such a debate? How would he handle himself since he dare not reveal what his true agenda is for America? He would equivocate endlessly and play the part of a stuttering idiot, which wouldn't cast him in a flattering light, would it? In short, BO would find himself in a Catch-22 situation. As it is he shot himself in the foot by singling out Limbaugh publicly, thereby giving him free publicity and even more important a hint of credibility. I suspect he won't be uttering Rush's name publicly any time soon.

Boxcar

[mostpost]

Congratulations, NeoCons. An entire thread of Nonsense, an entire thread bereft of common sense, an entire thread of opinion with no basis in fact. Every good speaker uses a teleprompter for his public speaches. It allows him (her) to focus on the audience. It allows them to concentrate on style and substance rather than on individual words. "Well Rush didn't use a teleprompter" I watched the video of Rush's speach linked on another thread. I lost count of how many times he llked down at his notes. He was NOT speaking extemporaneously.

I'm sure none of you watched President Obama's interactions at the end of the economic summit and the health care summit. (To do so would be to have your precious world view destroyed) He clearly understood the issues involved and expressed himself much better than our previous President. (A question.....Would Bush have convened a summit on the crucial issues of the day.....answer...we know the answer because he never did...and if he had, he would have never held a televised conference to close out the summit.

In these instancces, in his press conferences, in his town hall meetings we see that Obama can speak both on script and off the cuff; the delusional postings on this thread not withstanding.

[jballscalls]

an entire thread of opinion with no basis in fact. Every .


actually they were very factually correct that America doesn't care about liberal radio shows, they are horrible

[boxcar]

Congratulations, NeoCons. An entire thread of Nonsense, an entire thread bereft of common sense, an entire thread of opinion with no basis in fact. Every good speaker uses a teleprompter for his public speaches.

What a load of crap! "Every good speaker..."? :rolleyes: Only in your version of Wally World. The fact is that your messiah speaks scripted more than any other president before him.

Also, are you saying that "every good speaker" can't ride his bike and chew his gum simultaneously? That no one has the intellect and morality to do that?

But be that as it may...the fact that BO is a Script Cripple precludes any possibility that he would take on Limbaugh, who needs no script.

Finally, all Rush brought with him to the CPAC gathering was an outline -- notes to remind him of key points he wanted to touch upon. That's a far cry from a scripted speech.

It allows him (her) to focus on the audience. It allows them to concentrate on style and substance rather than on individual words.

That's something that BO will never have to worry about -- "substance". He dare not speak his mind. Yeah, he has plenty of "style". But so do a lot of other empty suits.

Boxcar

[mostpost]

I feel the same way about conservative radio shows. Liberal radio shows labor under the handicap of adhering to the facts.

[Tom]

:lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, right radio only has what 90% of the audiences?

[JustRalph]

I feel the same way about conservative radio shows. Liberal radio shows labor under the handicap of adhering to the facts.

man, that is funny............. I almost pissed myself............. :lol:

[Tom]

Let's see Bathtub Boy top this!

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[Dahoss9698]

Yes, new rules now.
It was OBAMA who told people not to listen to Rush it was OBAMA's thugs who keep the attack machine focused on Rush and other desenters. It is OBAMA who has lied through his teeth at every turn.

Rush called him out on it. OBAMA has no guts to face him. OBAMA knows he is nothing but a stinking liar and has zero substance. OBAMA knows Rush would eat him for lunch.

YOUR president is a complete coward on every level.
A disgusting embarrasssment to this great nation.

The difference is Bush had class, Obama has none.

A radio personality called out the President and now the President should debate him about it? How can you sit there and type that seriously? I must have missed all of the debates Bush had with people that called him out on his failure of a presidency.

New set of rules huh? Why, because angry guys who can't get over Obama winning say so? Thanks for the laugh. Bush had class?

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/787/20060627bush2520mission.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20060627bush2520mission.jpg)

[JustRalph]

she needs a sandwich

http://img.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/ck/01/07/sandwich-ck-226621-l.jpg

[highnote]

she needs a sandwich

http://img.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/ck/01/07/sandwich-ck-226621-l.jpg


LOL. I thought the same thing. She knows how to get attention, though.

That should boost Deutsch's ratings a point or two.

[Tom]

That should boost Deutsch's ratings a point or two.

Sat that three times fast! :lol:

[highnote]

Sat that three times fast! :lol:


that, that, that :confused: what's so hard about that?

[jonnielu]

Go back and try to understand post #3. If you still don't get it, go back to school and try to learn for once in your life how to think.

Boxcar

The teachings at the government indoctrination center (public school) is about how to not think. If some could think, it would be unfair to others and not serve the leftist agenda.

jdl

[mostpost]

Boxcar wrote, "The fact is that your Messiah speaks scripted more than any other president before him".

Response: First, you calling something a "Fact" does not make it so. In "Fact" just the opposite. Second GW Bush always spoke from a script and always to an audience of Syncophants. Unfortunately he wasn't very good even at that.

Boxcar wrote " Also , are you saying that 'Every Good Speaker' can't ride his bike and chew his gum simultaneously? That no one has the intellect and morality to do that?

Response: I think that Barack Obama has the intellect. This is apparent from his pres conferences, from the discussions at the economis and health care summits, from his town hall meetings, and from the election debates.
Morality? What do you mean by morality? Do you mean the morality of saying that Iraq was buying yellow cake Uranium from Nigeria when it was not? Do you mean the Morality of saying Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9-11 when he wasn't. Do you mean the morality of rewarding your friends with no bid contracts to supply our troops with substandard and defective facilities. Do you mean the morality of outing a CIA agent because her husband disagreed with your poicies? Please give me specific example of immorality by Barack Obama. And do not tell me he's a communist. First, that is not true. Second, that is politics or economics, not morality.

Boxcar wrote, "But be that as it may...the fact that BO is a Script Crippleprecludes any possibility that he would take on Limbaugh who needs no script.

Response: What precludes this debate is that Man o War doesn't race against a mule, the Jordan era Bulls don't play the third grade from PS 103, and they don't exhibit Renoir alongside the Community Center Artist of the Month. (I know...I tried!!!)

Finally, Boxcar wrote: "All Rush brought with him to the CPAC gathering wasan outline--notes to remind him of key points he wanted to touch upon. That's a far cry from a scripted speech"

Response: He should have brought a bigger outline. One that included the fact that "Life Liberty and the Pusuit of Happiness" is in the Declaration of Independence not the Preamble to thew Constitution. Anyway what Rush said at Cpac was just a rehash of 15? yeaars of radio tripe. Why would he need a script?
One final thing: I posted basically this same respose to Boxcar yesterday. At that time I used the "Quote" feature and responded to his comments in the space between each of his paragraphs (Today I typed them out). I submitted the post and it appeared in the thread, and was still there a few hours later when I left the house. When I returned Saturday evening, it was GONE. Very Strange!!!!

[boxcar]

Geesh, Mostpost, are you feeling victimized that your alleged initial reply disappeared? Just because you say you posted it, by the way, doesn't make it a fact. :rolleyes:

And spare us from deflecting the topic at hand to the morality of Bush. Let's stick to the reprobate BO instead. He's the current president -- something you seem to have forgotten. Evidently, all of BO's stimulatin' hasn't reached your memory cells.

Boxcar

[mostpost]

Geesh, Mostpost, are you feeling victimized that your alleged initial reply disappeared? Just because you say you posted it, by the way, doesn't make it a fact. :rolleyes:

And spare us from deflecting the topic at hand to the morality of Bush. Let's stick to the reprobate BO instead. He's the current president -- something you seem to have forgotten. Evidently, all of BO's stimulatin' hasn't reached your memory cells.

Boxcar

You are correct Barack Obama is President of the United States:jump: :jump: :jump: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[boxcar]

You are correct Barack Obama is President of the United States:jump: :jump: :jump: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Nice to see that you had there wherewithal to wake up and notice. Now that you're awake, resume marching in goosestep with your comrades.

Boxcar

[prospector]

You are correct Barack Obama is President of the United States:jump: :jump: :jump: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
i thought nancy was

[jballscalls]

i thought nancy was

Remember the old saying "behind every great man there is a great woman"?? LOL:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[prospector]

Remember the old saying "behind every great man there is a great woman"?? LOL:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
yep, true in my case..
but, "great" is not the word i'd use for nancy..

[Lefty]

prospector, I'm beginning to think that Pelosi is the Defacto President. Obama parties and Nancy writes the spending bills.

[PaceAdvantage]

You are correct Barack Obama is President of the United States:jump: :jump: :jump: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:I know it's less than two months into his term, but even at this short point in history, posts like the above are starting to read like a river in Egypt.

[boxcar]

I know it's less than two months into his term, but even at this short point in history, posts like the above are starting to read like a river in Egypt.

Don't be too hard on mostpost, PA. After all, it is the only factually accurate statement he has made on this forum. This might indicate a glimmer of hope for some change in him. :lol: :lol:

Boxcar