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NJ Stinks
03-05-2009, 01:58 AM
Since I'm heading to Florida for a short holiday tomorrow, I thought I'd leave all my buddies here a parting gift. You should have a lot of fun with this one. :lol: It's from Tim Egan at the NY Times:
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March 4, 2009, 10:00 pm
Fears of a Clown

Once upon a time, you could drive to the most remote reaches of the United States and escape Rush Limbaugh. But from the Mogollon Mountains of New Mexico to the Badlands of South Dakota, where only the delicious twang of a country tune or the high-pitched pleadings of a lone lunatic came over the AM dial, there is now the Mighty El Rushbo.

As someone who spends a lot of time on the road, I used to find Limbaugh to be an obnoxious but entertaining companion, his eruptions more reliable than Old Faithful. But now that Limbaugh has become something else — the face of the Republican Party, by a White House that has played him brilliantly — he has been transformed into car-wreck-quality spectacle, at once scary and sad.

Even more fun (the article continues) at the link below:

http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/fears-of-a-clown/?hp

Tom
03-05-2009, 07:55 AM
'splain his numbers then.
The numbers is the numbers.
Talk is cheap.
Numbers is numbers.

:lol:



BTW..Letterman? A complete jerk.

rastajenk
03-05-2009, 08:06 AM
I looked at the links to other Tim Egan articles. Just another cheap shill for the libs producing hit pieces; nothing to see here, move along.

Rhetorical question: why are dimlibs always telling conservatives how they should feel or act, as if they have some unlimited fount of wisdom they feel compelled to share with the supposedly less intelligent?

ArlJim78
03-05-2009, 08:28 AM
i don't know which is more hilarious, referring to Rush as head of the Republican party, or referring to David Frum as a 'conservative' writer.

sandpit
03-05-2009, 08:36 AM
Relying on numbers to explain someone's worth or correctness is a tricky proposition. Father Charles Coughlin was phenomenally popular in the US in the 1930, but his rhetoric was very anti-American in retrospect. Jim Bakker was wildly popular with the religious right some 20 years ago, and one little tramp brought his empire crashing down.

Limbaugh is a typical example of how great success causes individuals to lose touch with the common man. One can argue that he has stayed on message, but his growth into a mega-rich cultural icon has caused him to use more and more of a "shock value" type speech to get his point across. That's where the entertainer in him has to come out. It's got to be extremely difficult to produce a radio show with 12-15 hours (I'm not sure how long he is on each day) of original material each week without getting pretty boring after a while. Look at Howard Stern and his endless guest parade of strippers, porn stars, mentally handicapped and the like...even that kind of quality entertainment gets old after a while :eek:.

prospector
03-05-2009, 08:54 AM
people still don't get it...
rush is a conservative first, republican second..
he's the voice of conservatives

DJofSD
03-05-2009, 09:19 AM
people still don't get it...
rush is a conservative first, republican second..
he's the voice of conservatives
You can listen to him. I'll listen to Savage.

Tom
03-05-2009, 09:33 AM
Savage is very good. :ThmbUp:

ArlJim78
03-05-2009, 10:19 AM
You can listen to him. I'll listen to Savage.
do like me, listen to both. I get a kick out of Savage too, especially when he goes off on one of his rants.

DJofSD
03-05-2009, 10:32 AM
I got very tired of Rush years ago, especially when he seemed to turn into just another Bush yes-man. I understand the Savage's rants can get old, quickly, but then that's what the off button is for.

Even though Rush is not physically inside the beltway, he might as well be as far as I am concerned. Mike is an outsider and seemingly has no one he's beholden to. When Mike starts getting invited to CPAC that's when I'll find another program to listen to.

jballscalls
03-05-2009, 10:42 AM
. Look at Howard Stern and his endless guest parade of strippers, porn stars, mentally handicapped and the like...even that kind of quality entertainment gets old after a while :eek:.

90 percent of the time his show is about current events, entertainment, comedians, musicians. His show is fantastic, he's the best interviewer in all of entertainment, bar none

ArlJim78
03-05-2009, 10:45 AM
i agree DJ, that one thing nice about Savage is that he is out of the loop, and detached from Washington.

I have to say though, one aspect of his show that I do not like, is that he seems so insecure when he mocks and puts down any and all of the big name conservative talking heads. you know, The Golfer, The Leprachaun, etc.
I think he does his audience a disservice when he does that because I'm sure many of them are like me and listen to those others guys also. it makes him seem petty.
but with that said he's an interesting person, and I enjoy listening to his take on life. in many ways I can more closely relate to Savage as a person than any of the others.

DJofSD
03-05-2009, 11:12 AM
I will agree with you that the names he uses to address his competitor's does seem to be beneath him.

I find his program to be entertaining and challenging. I like the stories from his life. And I find that his views and dissertations on the air are more of a challenge intellectually than any one else.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to listen today or tomorrow but I am interested to hear what is likely a very predicatable rant about the California Supreme's Court hearing today with Jerry Brown's challenge to proposition 8.

jballscalls
03-05-2009, 11:17 AM
I will agree with you that the names he uses to address his competitor's does seem to be beneath him.

I find his program to be entertaining and challenging. I like the stories from his life. And I find that his views and dissertations on the air are more of a challenge intellectually than any one else.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to listen today or tomorrow but I am interested to hear what is likely a very predicatable rant about the California Supreme's Court hearing today with Jerry Brown's challenge to proposition 8.

just curious, but if the people have voted against gay marriage in california, why are people still objecting it?? The people have spoken. If you want to get it passed, aren't there ways to just get it back on the bill?? I mean i'm pro gay marriage, but if the people dont want it, the people dont want it.

boxcar
03-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Relying on numbers to explain someone's worth or correctness is a tricky proposition.

Yeah...well putting spin on the numbers won't work with liberal politicians. They're terrified of Rush. This is why they are hell-bent on shutting him, first and foremost, down, as well as other conservative talk show hosts. They cannot and have have not been able to come up with any lib talk show host who has been capable of even coming remotely close to the numbers the #3 ranked conservative talk show host, let alone Rush. Right now Rush and Glenn Beck own the market, being #1 and 2, respectively. As stated previously, liberal talk shows have been dismal failures in the free market place of ideas. No one wants to listen to liberal drivel. This is precisely why BO and his comrades and his newly appointed FCC man all want to change the radio landscape. Even though BO stated not too long ago that he's "against" the Fairness Doctrine, Rush immediately predicted right after this liar's remarks that they will try to resurrect the doctrine under another guise -- in different form. They just won't call it the Fairness Doctrine. They'll come up with some rules (as have already been bandied around) of "localizing" radio stations, which means they will want to force local ownership by minorities in the almighty name of "diversity", of course.

But I digress. Forgive me. The original point is that libs are very concerned about the numbers -- very. Otherwise, they wouldn't want to be changing the landscape of Radio. Of course, BO did promise us "change", didn't he? And of the changes the Premier and his political comrades will be bent on making as quickly as possible is the stifling of free speech -- most especially dissenting political speech.

Boxcar

jballscalls
03-05-2009, 11:58 AM
The fairness doctrine is a big crock of pooo. There are more conservative radio shows because they attract more money and profits for their bosses. I dont think its about agenda at all. If there was a liberal talk show that generated masses of dollars, they would have it on the air in a second.

DJofSD
03-05-2009, 12:30 PM
just curious, but if the people have voted against gay marriage in california, why are people still objecting it?? The people have spoken. If you want to get it passed, aren't there ways to just get it back on the bill?? I mean i'm pro gay marriage, but if the people dont want it, the people dont want it.
I can not respond at length at the moment. It's the history of California propositions to end up having them thrown out by the courts. I'm not saying the courts are wrong to do that - their job is to review the legality of such -- but when they cross the line and begin to become advocates and activists is the thing that concerns me.

In the case of prop 8, it is not the first time the courts have overruled "the will of the people". Are gays a protected class? I would say yes only b/c laws and regulations needed to be put into place for them to enjoy their rights as citizens. However, I do not believe that extends to the issue of marriage.

dutchboy
03-05-2009, 07:20 PM
Democrats should be reminded when complaining that Rush hurt their feelings is that "Intelligent people talk about ideas and ignorant people talk about other people"

Democrats sure make it easy to get them riled up emotionally. They are so funny. They are just like puppets on a string.

Rookies
03-05-2009, 07:30 PM
Democrats should be reminded when complaining that Rush hurt their feelings is that "Intelligent people talk about ideas and ignorant people talk about other people"

Democrats sure make it easy to get them riled up emotionally. They are so funny. They are just like puppets on a string.

Apparently just like Conservatives here who seem to vigorously defend Windbag in EVERY thread !

PaceAdvantage
03-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Everyone should remember this is some BLOG piece, not something that appeared in the NYT.

In any event, I tire of all this political juvenile behavior. The left in this country will eventually fail, as all majorities do. And when they do, hopefully someone with true conservative principles will be around to take the reigns.

That's all there is to it. Anything else is just useless bluster.

To see Hcap and NJ Stinks and all the other lefties beat their chests constantly, looking for another four-lettered name to pound on (Bush to Rush) is quite sad.

They can't stand on their principles (and they're less than TWO MONTHS into their presidency), so they have to go pick on a man who is merely exercising his freedom of speech (something that appears to be in jeopardy the longer Obama remains in office).

I say relax, pop a few cold ones and just wait for them to impale themselves.

DJofSD
03-05-2009, 11:07 PM
I say relax, pop a few cold ones and just wait for them to impale themselves.I don't think my son can afford that.

boxcar
03-05-2009, 11:19 PM
The fairness doctrine is a big crock of pooo. There are more conservative radio shows because they attract more money and profits for their bosses. I dont think its about agenda at all. If there was a liberal talk show that generated masses of dollars, they would have it on the air in a second.

Err...'scuse me...but WHY do "they attract more money and profits for their bosses"? Could it have something to do with RATINGS -- the FACT that conservative talk shows attract MORE LISTENERS!? Of course, I could be all wet on this...so, please feel free to straighten me out if you have a better reason. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

boxcar
03-05-2009, 11:20 PM
Apparently just like Conservatives here who seem to vigorously defend Windbag in EVERY thread !

Kinda like the dimwits who defend BO in every thread, right?

Boxcar