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Secretariat
02-28-2009, 01:13 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/opinion/27krugman.html

Climate of Change
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Elections have consequences. President Obama’s new budget represents a huge break, not just with the policies of the past eight years, but with policy trends over the past 30 years. If he can get anything like the plan he announced on Thursday through Congress, he will set America on a fundamentally new course.

The budget will, among other things, come as a huge relief to Democrats who were starting to feel a bit of postpartisan depression. The stimulus bill that Congress passed may have been too weak and too focused on tax cuts. The administration’s refusal to get tough on the banks may be deeply disappointing. But fears that Mr. Obama would sacrifice progressive priorities in his budget plans, and satisfy himself with fiddling around the edges of the tax system, have now been banished.

For this budget allocates $634 billion over the next decade for health reform. That’s not enough to pay for universal coverage, but it’s an impressive start. And Mr. Obama plans to pay for health reform, not just with higher taxes on the affluent, but by putting a halt to the creeping privatization of Medicare, eliminating overpayments to insurance companies.

On another front, it’s also heartening to see that the budget projects $645 billion in revenues from the sale of emission allowances. After years of denial and delay by its predecessor, the Obama administration is signaling that it’s ready to take on climate change.

And these new priorities are laid out in a document whose clarity and plausibility seem almost incredible to those of us who grew accustomed to reading Bush-era budgets, which insulted our intelligence on every page. This is budgeting we can believe in."

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Also a good article on the joke called CPAC by Politico.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090228/pl_politico/19433

Bush a four-letter word at CPAC
by Andy Barr

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"Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and current host of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” warned the GOP against becoming the party of resistance and urged conservatives to tone down their rhetoric against Obama.

“We have to present alternatives, we can’t just say no,” he said. “There is an alternative to everything we hear from the White House every single day, but we can’t just say no.”

He added: “We’re not going to win votes and we’re not going to win elections by calling Barack Obama a communist.”

Let's hope Bonior keeps it up and you guys keep posting the stuff about Obama's citizenship and socialism. I smile everytime I see those posts, and I want to thank you for helping us get the moderate votes with it. Well done. Oh, and keep trotting out Bobby Jindal, Palin and the Rush man. It's working for us.

BlueShoe
02-28-2009, 03:42 PM
So comrade Krugman wants more socialism,the stimulus is not enough?Well,what did you expect,after all,he works for the East Coast Edition of Pravda,aka The New York Times.

ArlJim78
02-28-2009, 04:38 PM
Krugman likes the Obama plan? what a shocker.:lol:

Tom
02-28-2009, 05:33 PM
What is so refreshing about the same old same old party line dogma? That is all we hear from the left, sec, over and over again. BTW, here is some more news about another NP winner....caught in a lie. Now that is refreshing! :lol:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/gore-pulls-slide-of-disaster-
trends/

skate
02-28-2009, 06:28 PM
Just like Johnny said, "Heeeeres China". :)


If we needed a boost (we did), it should have been done over the last year or two. When the Media was crying about the high debt from Uncle George, Bingo, he shoulda stuck to his guns, of coarse he didnt have the congress on his side...but...he shoulda:confused:

But then again, not really much difference, unless the-skate moves to China.:cool:

delayjf
02-28-2009, 06:43 PM
On another front, it’s also heartening to see that the budget projects $645 billion in revenues from the sale of emission allowances. After years of denial and delay by its predecessor, the Obama administration is signaling that it’s ready to take on climate change.

You gotta love the liberal idea that it's ok to pollute as long as you pay for it - I'm sure Gore would approve.

rastajenk
02-28-2009, 06:56 PM
Is that like the Pope selling indulgences?

JustRalph
02-28-2009, 11:44 PM
You gotta love the liberal idea that it's ok to pollute as long as you pay for it - I'm sure Gore would approve.

Great point

I notice none of our Global Warming Lefties here in PA have commented on Al Gore being forced to pull content out of his film this week.........because it made him look like a fool........all over the world?

kenwoodallpromos
03-01-2009, 01:46 AM
Does "privatization" mean letting medical students feed at the public university through and then refusing to take medicare patients? What I call privatiztion of health care is making the medical students go to private medical schools if they do not want to pay back student loans. If BO and the demos want to loower health care costs let them build 24/7 non-emergency clinics in major cities or help staff private doctor offices which are willing to operate 24/7. " Hospitals such as Cooper Hospital-University Medical Center in Camden, N.J., are forming "fast-track" areas in their emergency departments to more quickly treat patients with minor illnesses and injuries, such as small cuts or ankle sprains. Often, these areas are staffed by physician assistants or nurse practitioners, leaving the doctors to treat more serious problems." I just read that 43% of such patients are on Fed medical plans.

Energy- The last 30 years has been a joke as far as both side keeping pollution going, the left by refusing to allow nuclear plants and the right by companies like GM not mass producing more eco friendly cars and squashing new "green" ideas.

hcap
03-01-2009, 06:03 AM
But then again, not really much difference, unless the-skate moves to China.:cool:First time you are actually being sensible.
Try opening a gun repair service. Or another hair-brained scheme you are so fond about :lol:

skate
03-01-2009, 06:13 PM
Welp, i done let Benny take care of 'The Constitution' and then the-skate just went off and took over from there.

hairbrain or not, that was one of my better ideas, very busy gun smiths in todays world.

Must be my prudence that causes me to shine so bright:) , thanks for reminder.

JustRalph
03-02-2009, 12:53 AM
http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf


This ran in the new york post last week. Calling Obama a liar...........

Oh, BTW, Since Sec is so fond of Nobel Prize Winners........several are signed on to this ad...............

PaceAdvantage
03-02-2009, 05:36 AM
Aww, come on Ralph. Don't you know all those undersigned eggheads are just frustrated neocon Palin-humping mouth-breathers?

Get with the program buddy!

hcap
03-02-2009, 12:37 PM
Welp, i done let Benny take care of 'The Constitution' and then the-skate just went off and took over from there.

hairbrain or not, that was one of my better ideas, very busy gun smiths in todays world.

Must be my prudence that causes me to shine so bright:) , thanks for reminder.You got any stats to back up how well gunsmiths are doing?
You also said driving a truck will bring the unemployed riches. Not counting the initial fees for lessons-which many folks will not be able to carry- the trucking industry ain't doing so well.

Have you read any of Patricks' ( pktruckdriver ) posts??

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/member.php?u=7315

BTW, what is it with you and "Welp"???
From the urban dictionary

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=welp

1.Welp.....what really annoying people say instead of well. The same kind of people who use jah instead of yes. Annoying.

"Welp, I was a tool so my girlfriend dumped my sorry ass."

2.Welp......To be used in place of 'well', when one feels there is no more to say. This word was originally brought to the peoples' attention in 1994, from Jim Carrey in the cult classic, Dumb & Dumber.
This is simply one of the many words and phrases that continue to be used in teen conversation today.

Dumb and Dumber? It figures :lol:

ddog
03-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Aww, come on Ralph. Don't you know all those undersigned eggheads are just frustrated neocon Palin-humping mouth-breathers?

Get with the program buddy!

no actually Cato is correct on this and was also correct on the 2nd Iraq War.
A total waste and setback for our true foregin policy goals.

They were correct on both counts.


As I said long ago in one of my boilerplate postings, it is not our choice now, we are stuck once in.

the 50K level is a fantasy. We will not be that low on the dates set out.

the bombings etc are rising again. the kurds and many other little bombs are waiting to go off. with the amount of loss we have sustained there ,we are stuck in the tar pit.

this and AFG is another reason why the pugs have no shot.
no matter how bad things turn from here , the public will have no stomach to hear of a new surge or another 10 year plan after bama is toasted by the deals Bush has left in place.



The "winning" of the war is all fluff. hanging a banner doesn't make it true.

skate
03-03-2009, 06:10 PM
[QUOTE=hcap]You got any stats to back up how well gunsmiths are doing?
You also said driving a truck will bring the unemployed riches. Not counting the initial fees for lessons-which many folks will not be able to carry- the trucking industry ain't doing so well.

/QUOTE]


1) stat, gun smiths are busy these days

2) i've never (never say Never) used the word 'riches' nor have i ever said any one would become rich, except maybe in concern (now) for the stock market.

3) I took home, took home, tooook hoooome $50,000/yr (trucking business,'80s) while congress was making (before taxes) $62/$65,000.

4) the job, TD, i reffered to was in Canada, still doing very good, makes near $200,000/yr. Sinclair oil field, comes with room and board;) .

5) oh oh oh ya, well now, Congress is on the upside of $165,000 for now, while a good average for TD would bring about $50,000, before taxes and after 70/80 hour week.

6) no one, including me the-skate, is more against the pitiful american working man than I and that also includes me, plus the dumber of the dumb "el truck driver" who's just looking for easy street, nothing else.:cool:

7) these figures are too low, but the WSJ says the TR for drivers is about 100/150% per year and that's in a slow econ. And and and if you are a total "walking Asshole", then yepper, you gots to pay for the training:eek: . .

delayjf
03-03-2009, 06:32 PM
A total waste and setback for our true foregin policy goals.
Can't win em all - sometimes National security trumps foreign policy.

JustRalph
03-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Anything to do with Guns is booming right now..............