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Arbor Heights
02-25-2009, 06:34 AM
Anyone know exactly what this is? I know it is the designation for "waiver claiming" or something like that, but what is that? How does it compare to "Optional claiming". Where would it fit on a class scale? I don't see it too often but whenever I do it throws a curve at my handicapping. Thanks.
RonTiller
02-25-2009, 07:35 AM
This was discussed on a previous thread. You can do a search to find it.
WCL is just a claiming race where 1 or more horses were given a waiver from being claimed because they are off a layoff. They are just regular old claiming races - nothing special.
Optional claiming races are mostly allowance races with a caveat that allows horses, who do not otherwise qualify, to enter but for a claiming price.
Try this too:
http://thoroughbredink.com/ArticleWaiverClaiming.html
Ron Tiller
HDW
Anyone have any stats on how the horses waived from the claim are doing overall?
I would imagine some trainers or owners are very good at taking advantage of this but don't have the database to check.
RonTiller
02-26-2009, 02:53 PM
There's only 33 so far in the entire country, so unless you're willing to extrapolate from sample sizes of 1 (or 2 at most this far), the trainer-good-at-waiver-claiming angle is nowhere near ready for primetime.
Of the 33 so far, here's the winners' prices, a positive ROI, small sample size notwithstanding.
$22.40
$21.60
$19.00
$17.80
$7.20
Ron Tiller
HDW
I'm unwinding the bankroll ;)
Thanks for the info! It'll be interesting to see if it holds up
rokitman
02-27-2009, 09:40 AM
There's only 33 so far in the entire country, so unless you're willing to extrapolate from sample sizes of 1 (or 2 at most this far), the trainer-good-at-waiver-claiming angle is nowhere near ready for primetime.
Of the 33 so far, here's the winners' prices, a positive ROI, small sample size notwithstanding.
$22.40
$21.60
$19.00
$17.80
$7.20
Ron Tiller
HDW
My one profitable spot play. Thanks a lot!
onefast99
02-27-2009, 10:03 AM
I wish NJ had this type of option within the conditions. It would help those trainers and owners who have J breds to be able to keep them on the farm for the winter and not worry about losing them 1st time out.
cnollfan
03-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Robaroyal was waiver claiming at Oaklawn on Saturday and won for fun at 25-1.
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