This Bill is So Bad...

[bigmack]

(best line wins a night on the town with Pelosi)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/pelosi.jpg

[Tom]

That's a joke(r), right?

[Ned Locke]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/10/bush-urinal.jpg

They'll be making jokes about this guy for generations to come

[bigmack]

The idea is to finish the line. This bill is so bad...

[Tom]

You from Jersey, too?
NOTHING to do with this thread. Try to pay attention.

[Ned Locke]

The idea is to finish the line. This bill is so bad...

"This bill is so bad that 80% of America supports it."

or what about:

"This bill is so bad that Republicons couldn't filibuster it."

or how bout:

"This bill is so bad but it passed, How are we gonna stop the ones comin down the line?"

:lol:

[GaryG]

Looks like another frequent flyer is flying the friendly skies....

[bigmack]

Looks like another frequent flyer is flying the friendly skies....
Actually, the '80% of America supports it' line is kinda funny. In a pathetic sort of way.

[Greyfox]

The bill is so bad that it made my Right Guard deodorant turn left.

(Note: $ 125 million is directed towards the Washington DC sewer system. Just more money down the drain. :lol: )

[Tom]

This bill is so bad it makes Nancy look good! :eek:
This bill is so bad, it attracted trolls!

[Greyfox]

This bill is so bad that it's allotting $ 650 million for abandoned mine pits. Sounds like money down the hole to me.

[Greyfox]

This Bill is So Bad that it makes "The Huffington Post" look like a right wing extremist site.

[bigmack]

It's so bad it makes Carter look like Reagan

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/2_14_09_14_03_32.png

[HUSKER55]

This bill is so bad that Monica feels threatened for the first time

This bill is so bad they had to put a suicide watch on it

This bill is so bad that the inmates are demanding tutoring from the dems as part of the rehabilitation process.

This bill is so bad that your mission, ...should you decide to accept it...

This is the story of a bill so bad that its sole purpose is to motivate the public in a lifelong conquest to boldly try .....and pay the damn thing off.

This bill is so bad that Pt Barnum blushes.

This bill is so bad that Listerine is seeking a field to conquer

This bill is so bad that a new dump site will have to be built to put the trash in from it.

This bill gives new meaning to "lifetime guarantee".

OK everybody, add yours.

[Greyfox]

This Bill is So bad that the United States National Debt Clock yelled "Cuckoo...Cuckoo...Cuckoo.."

[ArlJim78]

This bill is so bad that it makes a night on the town with Pelosi seem like a dream date with Bar Refaeli.

[Greyfox]

This Bill is So Bad that the last line of the Star-Spangled banner will be
"O'er the land of the free and the home of the broke?"

[bigmack]

This bill is so bad that it makes a night on the town with Pelosi seem like a dream date with Bar Refaeli.
Oooo, that's bad.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/2_14_09_14_22_10.png

But that's good. :eek:

[Marshall Bennett]

This bill is so bad that monopoly game sales have skyrocketed . Everyone feels the play money will be worth more than real money before long .

[GaryG]

Actually, the '80% of America supports it' line is kinda funny. In a pathetic sort of way.This guy uses the same source for statistics that Suff uses.....:lol:

[Greyfox]

This Bill is so bad that it makes Nancy Pelosi ,a "2 bagger," into a "one bagger" and Helen Thomas into a "two bagger" instead of a "triple bagger."

(PA, if I'm violating the T.O.S. here, please delete. I just couldn't resist the posting.)

[MakinItHappen]

a) It has already applied for its own bailout package.

b) The economy tendered its resignation letter.

c) The exclamation "Stimulus Package!" has begun to replace "Bullsh1t!" in worldwide vernacular.

d) It was last seen partially submerged in a DC area kitty litter box.

e) Even horse players will not bet on it!


Best of Luck Everyone!

MakinItHappen

[GaryG]

The exclamation "Stimulus Package!" has begun to replace "Bullsh1t!" in worldwide vernacular.Now THAT is funny.....:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tom]

This guy uses the same source for statistics that Suff uses.....:lol:

Now available at Amazon....

[Tom]

It is so bad that the dollar is devalued - first prize in the lottery is a million dollars, second prize is two million.

[Steve 'StatMan']

(best line wins a night on the town with Pelosi)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/pelosi.jpg

Sorry, I can't take the risk of winning.

[nomadpat]

new gov't logo:

[Greyfox]

This Bill is So Bad it makes http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/helen.jpg

look better than

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/nancy-pelosi-on-botox.jpg.

Okay, Okay. It wasn't fair of me to put Miss America above of the speaker.

[DanG]

This bill is so bad…

It has Republicans pretending to talk fiscal responsibility. :faint:

Now THAT takes a brass set after their recent abomination overseeing the treasury. :bang:

[Rookies]

This bill is so bad…

It has Republicans pretending to talk fiscal responsibility. :faint:

Now THAT takes a brass set after their recent abomination overseeing the treasury. :bang:

Indeed. The former White House Idiot in Chief spent like a drunken sailor on that FUBARed war, aided and abetted for 6 of the 8 years by the do as I say, not as I do Con-servative side.

Now these guys have found religion ? :lol:

It's only because they're afraid of Flushed OxyCotin Windbag more than their own shadow. They know that the guy in charge will lock up 8 years and they'll be left with a rump caucus that couldn't convince anyone outside of a few remaining holdouts in Dixie to vote for their failed ideology. Good luck to that.

[ArlJim78]

This bill is so bad…

It has Republicans pretending to talk fiscal responsibility. :faint:

Now THAT takes a brass set after their recent abomination overseeing the treasury. :bang:
who is pretending?
i called the first bailout an abomination from the get go. i remember many others on here did the same. you should have seen some of the nasty emails i sent.

[boxcar]

Wonder if there are any libs around here who think this bill will actually stimulate (as in grow) the economy). Anyone?

Boxcar

[NJ Stinks]

It's so bad it makes Carter look like Reagan

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/2_14_09_14_03_32.png

This bill is so bad - all of the above costs America less than 3 months in Iraq does. :eek:

[boxcar]

This bill is so bad - all of the above costs America less than 3 months in Iraq does. :eek:

You are so boringly predictable.

But tell us, genius: Will this legislationl do what your messiah BO says it will? Will it grow the private sector? Will it grow the economy? Will it get us out of the recession? Will it make America vibrant and prosperous again? Why don't you go out on the limb for once in your life and make a prediction for us? We'd love to hear your pearls of wisdom.

Boxcar

[JustRalph]

This bill is so bad - all of the above costs America less than 3 months in Iraq does. :eek:

There you go with your crappy facts again.

This thing is going to cost at least 768 Billion. The Iraq war costs about 12billion a month now. We could stay in Iraq for almost 5.5 more years.

But then again that doesn't count interest. According to some this thing could end up costing over 2 trillion......... do the math...........

Five years in Iraq is Cheaper than this Bill..............

[boxcar]

There you go with your crappy facts again.

This thing is going to cost at least 768 Billion. The Iraq war costs about 12billion a month now. We could stay in Iraq for almost 5.5 more years.

But then again that doesn't count interest. According to some this thing could end up costing over 2 trillion......... do the math...........

Five years in Iraq is Cheaper than this Bill..............

And not only that, but 5 years in Iraq has no relevance to this thread. BO is in charge now. Is he going to get on his white charger and lead the U.S. out of its economic funk with this bill? Is the messiah going to save America with this bill? Is he going to turn this country around 180 degrees? These are the things we need to know, NJ.

Boxcar

[ArlJim78]

There you go with your crappy facts again.

This thing is going to cost at least 768 Billion. The Iraq war costs about 12billion a month now. We could stay in Iraq for almost 5.5 more years.

But then again that doesn't count interest. According to some this thing could end up costing over 2 trillion......... do the math...........

Five years in Iraq is Cheaper than this Bill..............

not only that, but every agency and council and board that receives funding from the stimulus bill is going to be lining up year after year for more funding. if they don't get more funds next year they'll scream about cuts.

does anyone honestly think that the recipients of this money are just thinking this is a one time shot and thats it??!! HA!
how much of this will just be rolled into the budget next year? a portion of it will i'm sure. and how many projects are going to discover that, whoops!, we underestimated the cost and we need more money. sorry about that.

face it, the pigs will keep feeding as long as they can.

[prospector]

thinking of a new bumper sticker...
Don't blame me..I didn't vote for him!
or
It's your fault! you voted obama

[Hank]

Indeed. The former White House Idiot in Chief spent like a drunken sailor on that FUBARed war, aided and abetted for 6 of the 8 years by the do as I say, not as I do Con-servative side.

Now these guys have found religion ? :lol:

It's only because they're afraid of Flushed OxyCotin Windbag more than their own shadow. They know that the guy in charge will lock up 8 years and they'll be left with a rump caucus that couldn't convince anyone outside of a few remaining holdouts in Dixie to vote for their failed ideology. Good luck to that.

The really funny sh*t is all these PA OT economist weighing in on how crappy this bill is when, not one of them really has a clue if the bill will actually help us out of our economic troubles,economist with advanced degrees don't freaking know but these PA OT economist,they KNOW:lol:The thing may very well be crap,but that will only be determined by results or the lack thereof.

[NJ Stinks]

1. I have no idea if this bill is the cure but it will put people to work. That has got to be good.

2. You may think Iraq was good idea. I don't. Spending $16B on student financial aid is a good idea. (That's the biggest item on Bigmack's list.) Spending another $16B in Iraq was/is just a drain on our economy.

3. Saying Iraq has no relevance to this thread is ridiculous. The amount of spending in this bill would not be required now if funding had not been diverted from domestic needs to Iraq the last 6 years. I guess that's another crappy fact.:rolleyes:

4. ArlJim78, it's a stimulus bill. Why would any recipient in it think they can expect the same again next year? :confused:

[HUSKER55]

It will be interesting to see the unemployment rate fall to new record lows just as soon as this bill is passed.

The segment of the economy that is failing is the auto industry and the finance industry, according to msnbc.

The illegals will be tickled with the work on roads and bridges till the money runs out.

The banks are getting bailed out and then BO is going to let them get bailed out again when 3 million new jobs are created. (someone has to cash those payrolls) The new credit cards at 25% sure won't hurt either. New housing loans, new cars, new ira's, new stock accounts.

Of course these corporations won't pay taxes. We just admitted they are broke. Why else would they need a bailout? Come to think of it,, if the illegals were to average their taxes for the last five years they wouldn't pay taxes either.

Does anyone see the trend here? People who build bridges and roads are never out of work. Ask BO what it is like trying to get around Chicago during the summer.

[DanG]

who is pretending?
i called the first bailout an abomination from the get go. i remember many others on here did the same. you should have seen some of the nasty emails i sent.
I understand Jim and agree on that issue;

I was really referring to the fact that from 2000 – 2006 the Republican president vetoed 5 spending bills…total. The least since James Garfield in 1881. (5 in total; by comparison Reagan vetoed 78 and Grover Cleveland 414)

Under his tenure and complete Republican rule; the sheer growth of government / deficit spending / executive orders that excluded our three branch oversight and on and on were at historic proportions. I fail to see how a true conservative defends this without / almost blind allegiance to ones party.

As a friend said the other day; “what are people afraid of; could the Libertarians do any worse?”

[Greyfox]

This Bill is so bad that libertarians are trying to take bigmack's challenge off topic on this thread in order to create a smoke and mirrors rouge.

[DanG]

This Bill is so bad that libertarians are trying to take bigmack's challenge off topic on this thread in order to create a smoke and mirrors rouge.
:D

There you go Grey; point taken and moving on. :ThmbUp: /// Sorry Mack.

[Bubba X]

This bill is so bad....

Rush Limbaugh can barely stand to eat.

Then again, when's the last time anyone saw him stand?:eek:

[Lefty]

The bill just had to be pushed through quickly because it would create or save 2-3 million jobs. Create or save? Mealymouth language to be sure.
Anyway the "makework "projects don't start for a year and most 2-3 yrs from now. So what was the hurry?
husker, actually, the bill extends unemployment benefits so really no incentive for some people to go back to work. A lot will languish as long as they can.

[boxcar]

1. I have no idea...

Truer words have never been uttered.

if this bill is the cure but it will put people to work. That has got to be good.

This remains to be seen.

2. You may think Iraq was good idea. I don't. Spending $16B on student financial aid is a good idea. (That's the biggest item on Bigmack's list.) Spending another $16B in Iraq was/is just a drain on our economy.

So is spending 16B on student financial aid. If I pay to send my kids to college, why should it be expected of me to pay to send other people's too? It's a drain on MY economy and a whole bunch of other people's.

Saying Iraq has no relevance to this thread is ridiculous. The amount of spending in this bill would not be required now if funding had not been diverted from domestic needs to Iraq the last 6 years. I guess that's another crappy fact.:rolleyes:

Only to those who can't keep on topic.

. ArlJim78, it's a stimulus bill. Why would any recipient in it think they can expect the same again next year? :confused:

Well, why not? If it's good to be stimulated this year, why not the next one, and the next one after that? Kinda like the minimum wage thing. When the morons in DC raise the min. wage to X dollars because no one can support themselves on anything lower, then why not raise the minimum wage to $20. per hr, so that they can live in a lifestyle never before imagined? And if that's a good thing, why not raise it to $50. per hour. They might even be able to afford to buy their own home without taxpayer assistance. This same argument can be applied to this "stimulus" bill. If stimulatin' once is supposed to be good, why not stimulate often? Why wouldn't that even be better?

In other words, NJ, with Socialism it's far better to receive from the State than it is to make any positive contribution to society.

Boxcar

[Bubba X]

Truer words have never been uttered.



This remains to be seen.



So is spending 16B on student financial aid. If I pay to send my kids to college, why should it be expected of me to pay to send other people's too? It's a drain on MY economy and a whole bunch of other people's.

.:rolleyes:


Boxcar

McCain is on CNN right now. He said we MUST buy up all the bad mortgages to save the housing market.

When did McCain turn socialist?

[Lefty]

bubba, Rush plays golf. So much for your ill attempt at humor.
MCain said that at the last debate. Another reason he didn't get elected. Until we run a true conservative, the White House will elude us.
The new Reagan will likely be a woman.

[Tom]

This bill is so bad - all of the above costs America less than 3 months in Iraq does. :eek:

Night school, basic math.....you are not even close.
You make yourself look foolish posting.

[Secretariat]

who is pretending?
i called the first bailout an abomination from the get go. i remember many others on here did the same. you should have seen some of the nasty emails i sent.

You're correct - the Bush bailout was an abomination with absolutely no oversight. I'm not a big proponent of this, but there are two things that are quite evident.

1. The government's response can not be the Republican President Hoover's response of the Great Depression - essentially do nothing. We saw where that got us.

2. Republican have essentially lost all crediblilty. It isn't just the Bush bailout of last Fall. It's that they've been deficit spending for the last eight years. It's the height of hypocrisy to now cry deficit spending when a Democrat is in for three weeks. They look like idiotic whiners doing so.

3. The tax cut mantra has led to more tax cuts in the bill than most Dem's wanted. These tax cuts are slow working and won't create jobs immediately if at all. Yet Republicans are crying that jobs aren't going to be created quickly enough.

4. The Nobel economists like Krugman and Stiglitz beleive the bill is "too little", not too much, and Stiglitz belevies much less should be spent on the tax cut portion of the bill which is exactly opposite the Republican position which beleives the bulk of it should be tax cuts, even thoguh we've done that mess for the last eight years.

Saturday Night Live had a great parody on a behind closed doors meeting with House Republicans like Boner. They hit it right on the button. Clueless Dittoheads.

[Tom]

You are really a liar here Sec...the BUSH? bail out, passed by a dem congress.
Try telling the entire truth here - your boy Barry bent over backwards to get that thing passed and all you see is a Bush bailout? YOU are the one who has no credibility. YOU and your kind are why the this once great country is now in the toilet. Not Bush, YOU and the liars out there who have never done a tning but put politics ahead of all else. Shame on you.
And you whine and cry, which is about you seem capable of ever doing, about tax cuts to creating jobs....how many do you suppose will be created by Dingy Harry's Choo Choo train or Nancy's mouse mission?

But with Obama and Pelosi and Reid, I can see how you would be impressed by SNL.......really sad.

Hey lefty.......even with the last election, they had to get on thier knees and beg the repubs to vote with them........big bad repubs won't let the po' little dems do anything! :lol::lol::lol: Girly-men, those dems!:lol::lol:

[Marshall Bennett]

YOU and your kind are why this once great country is now in the toilet.
:ThmbUp: you can say that again !! :ThmbUp:

[Steve 'StatMan']

You are really a liar here Sec...the BUSH? bail out, passed by a dem congress.
Try telling the entire truth here - your boy Barry bent over backwards to get that thing passed and all you see is a Bush bailout? YOU are the one who has no credibility. YOU and your kind are why the this once great country is now in the toilet. Not Bush, YOU and the liars out there who have never done a tning but put politics ahead of all else. Shame on you.
And you whine and cry, which is about you seem capable of ever doing, about tax cuts to creating jobs....how many do you suppose will be created by Dingy Harry's Choo Choo train or Nancy's mouse mission?

But with Obama and Pelosi and Reid, I can see how you would be impressed by SNL.......really sad.

Hey lefty.......even with the last election, they had to get on thier knees and beg the repubs to vote with them........big bad repubs won't let the po' little dems do anything! :lol::lol::lol: Girly-men, those dems!:lol::lol:

Yeah, as I recall the congress wrote up the law, with the majority Democrats in the House led my Nancy Pelosi, and a closely split Senate. Plus then President Elect Obaba, urging passage of the bill, while still saying we have only one president. OK, so why didn't Congress create and pass a bill with the approriate oversights back then? Was it, too, too big to read and fully understand, like the current Stimulus Bill? Sec, you can't realistically lay oversight errors all at the feet of Bush on this one, but when in the last 6 years have you been a truly realistic and unbiased poster, anyway.

[Tom]

Steve, if you recall, it was another one of those must pass today bills - just like this one. The longer a turd lies in the sun, the worse it smells.
This time, a three-day weekend was more important than reading the bill.

Anyone who voted yes is a traitor to this country, and should face a firing squad. Anyone and everyone. We now know who our real enemies are, and hopefully, enough will do something about it.

[Steve 'StatMan']

And, hey, enough of the debate stuff, this was a joke thread! Gads, reminds me of an old omedy sketch, was it SNL, where they parodied the game show "Make Me Laugh!" with "Make Joan Baez Laugh!"

[Tom]

This bill is so bad the National Pork Producer's Council is suing!

http://www.nppc.org/

[Steve 'StatMan']

This bill is so bad the National Pork Producer's Council is suing!

http://www.nppc.org/

Suuuuuuing!!! Suuuuuing!!!! Suing! Suing! Suing!

[Greyfox]

This bill is so bad it makes a turd laying in the sun for three days smell good.

[Tom]

This bill is so bad, Jimmy Dean slapped Obama.

[Marshall Bennett]

This bill is so bad that nobody would read it . They simply signed for it . Tom is right , they should all be shot !! :D

[JustRalph]

I heard an interview the other day where some econo-genius said that if this bill produces the jobs Obama says it will, they will all average a salary of 81k .

The bad part is, every one of these 81k jobs will cost the government 219k?

[Secretariat]

You are really a liar here Sec...the BUSH? bail out, passed by a dem congress.

....

Hey lefty.......even with the last election, they had to get on thier knees and beg the repubs to vote with them........big bad repubs won't let the po' little dems do anything! :lol::lol::lol: Girly-men, those dems!:lol::lol:

Good lord Tom. You've forgotten already. The Democrats went along with this AFTER GW and Paulsen aid we were facing a "national disaster" unless Congress acted immediately. In essence an economic 911.

"We're facing a choice between action and the real prospect of economic hardship for millions of Americans, and for the financial security of every American, Congress must act." - George W, Bush, October 1, 2008

I think you forgot the GOP Presidential candidate McCain voted and agreed to help push the Bush bailout. This was not first intiated by Congress, but came from GW and Paulsen. Look it up to get your facts straight.

As to begging the Repugs, Dem's got no votes in the House - who cares? My only complaint thus far about Obama is that he actually gives a crap what Repubs think at all. He won the election handily and his popularity remains solid. Worrying about Boner in the House isn't worth the time of day.

"I don't like people trying to take advantage of that,
so if I get any sense that people are....

this is why actually if you watch my political interactions,
I'm always best as a counterpuncher.

You know, if someone comes at me, I will Knock them out,
if not, than I will try to understand their point of view....
and that actually serves me well.....I give people the benefit of the doubt, I try to understand their point of view....

but IF I perceive that they are trying to take advantage of that, I will Crush them." - Barack Obama, 2007

[Lefty]

Obama promised not to follow the failed policies of G Bush. Well, the bailout was a failed policy. so why is he following it?
The only policies of G Bush he isn't following is the successful ones.

[PaceAdvantage]

FUBARed warNever mind reality.

Hell, if you can't root your country to failure, might as well try and rewrite history if things don't work out as planned. FUBARed...:lol: Good one!

[PaceAdvantage]

3. Saying Iraq has no relevance to this thread is ridiculous. The amount of spending in this bill would not be required now if funding had not been diverted from domestic needs to Iraq the last 6 years. I guess that's another crappy fact.:rolleyes:So not going into Iraq would have stopped Clinton and Barney Frank and all the other Democrats who insisted throughout the years that people should get whatever home they want no matter how poor they may be?

Just asking is all.

[PaceAdvantage]

4. ArlJim78, it's a stimulus bill. Why would any recipient in it think they can expect the same again next year? :confused:Ummm..because no matter how much Obama says it, change has NOT come to Washington. That's why.

[PaceAdvantage]

McCain is on CNN right now. He said we MUST buy up all the bad mortgages to save the housing market.

When did McCain turn socialist?He couldn't run fast enough to Washington to help Bush pass the first huge bailout/spending bill...wasn't that clue enough for you?

Yeah, I voted for McCain, but it was once again a matter of "best of the worst," just like it was in 2004 with Bush vs. Kerry and 2000 with Bush vs. Gore.

[PaceAdvantage]

3. The tax cut mantra has led to more tax cuts in the bill than most Dem's wanted. These tax cuts are slow working and won't create jobs immediately if at all.I'll ask again...is this the first time the United States of America has had a recession?

All this idiotic panic and clueless spending that was criticized under Bush but now being embraced under Obama is just that...idiotic.

But the more clueless among us are buying it hook line and SINKER.

These people are acting as if Government has this STELLAR TRACK RECORD of actually RUNNING THINGS SUCCESSFULLY! :lol: :lol:

At this point in time, if we really do have to resort to the government to "save us," then it's probably time to assume the crash position and kiss your ass goodbye.

[PaceAdvantage]

And before anyone comes at me for my machine-gun, one after the other replies here, I'm just trying to keep the memory of 46zilzal alive...

[witchdoctor]

I am not sure where this quote belongs but I think this kind of fits in our discussion of what we are talking about.


"It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance the budget, just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. In short, it is paradoxical that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."


Anyone want to guess who said this? I don't think it was Hcp.

[Greyfox]

I am not sure where this quote belongs but I think this kind of fits in our discussion of what we are talking about.


"It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance the budget, just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. In short, it is paradoxical that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."


Anyone want to guess who said this? I don't think it was Hcp.

Dec. 14, 1962, President John Kennedy said the above quote.

[HUSKER55]

Do you think there is a turnover tax at play here?

[dutchboy]

End of the world if the bill was not voted on and passed immediately.

Passed on Saturday.

Not signed by B Hussein Obama on Saturday.
Not signed by B Hussein Obama on Sunday.
Not signed by B Hussein Obama on Monday.
May be signed by B Hussein Obama on Tuesday which will require a special trip to Denver, Co to sign the bill. Sure hope they use a commercial flight to get to Denver so it does not affect global warming.

Isn't Denver the conspiracy theorists location for the government when it is moved from Washington. There is suppose to be a secret city built below the new Denver airport.

[Secretariat]

Dec. 14, 1962, President John Kennedy said the above quote.

lol...Are you saying you're in favor of going back to the tax rates during JFK's administration? He was referring to very high tax rates during the Republican Eisenhower adminstration. I'd be happy to go back to the JFK tax rates. I doubt you would. This is an example of taking a quote of time context.

[Secretariat]

I'll ask again...is this the first time the United States of America has had a recession?

All this idiotic panic and clueless spending that was criticized under Bush but now being embraced under Obama is just that...idiotic.

But the more clueless among us are buying it hook line and SINKER.

These people are acting as if Government has this STELLAR TRACK RECORD of actually RUNNING THINGS SUCCESSFULLY! :lol: :lol:

At this point in time, if we really do have to resort to the government to "save us," then it's probably time to assume the crash position and kiss your ass goodbye.

As your buddy Ronnie woulda said, "there you go again."

This recession is being called the worst economic situation since the Great Depression. One that may well lead to a decade of financial hardship.

I have to laugh when we see Congressional Republicans criticizing Government while we watch the infallible private sector running to that same government for help. It is interesting that almost all GOP Governors are lining up for their stimulus checks. Now we've Lindsey GRaham talking about nationializing banks. Sounds like you better line up for crash position if you beleive the GOP Governors and ole' Lindsey.

[riskman]

Nancy Pelosi sent this message to Obama last week on the Stimulis bill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcok9XWWJQ&feature=related


Then Shirley B. expressed in in song.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8FlmXla0Pw

[Tom]

Where is the 5 days Barry promised on bill signing?
Oh, yes, he lied about it - has not lived up to yet! :lol:
Now, it was such a hurry up deal to get it passed, they have not even finished "penciling" items in the margins! A practice, btw, totally not allowed under and ethical management system. But Barry baby, his is in Chicago, so he flies all the way back to DC, then off to Denver tomorrow to sign it. Why?
Holiday news a little for the glory hound? What about the huge carbon foot print he is causing by two totally unnecessary air trips? And the cost of fuel?

[witchdoctor]

lol...Are you saying you're in favor of going back to the tax rates during JFK's administration? He was referring to very high tax rates during the Republican Eisenhower adminstration. I'd be happy to go back to the JFK tax rates. I doubt you would. This is an example of taking a quote of time context.


Not at all. JFK came to realize after 2 years that you couldn't tax your way to prosperity. He wanted to drop the top rate from 91% to 65%. Congress dropped it only to 70%. The result? Unemployment dropped from 5.2 percent in 1964 to 3.8 percent in 1966 and annual tax revenues, with lower rates, jumped 33 percent in real terms, adjusted for inflation, from 1961 to 1968. It seems to me that this stimulus bill is a step in the wrong direction.

[JustRalph]

Not at all. JFK came to realize after 2 years that you couldn't tax your way to prosperity. He wanted to drop the top rate from 91% to 65%. Congress dropped it only to 70%. The result? Unemployment dropped from 5.2 percent in 1964 to 3.8 percent in 1966 and annual tax revenues, with lower rates, jumped 33 percent in real terms, adjusted for inflation, from 1961 to 1968. It seems to me that this stimulus bill is a step in the wrong direction.

It's just the start.......you will be working for the Government inside of two years........

[witchdoctor]

It's just the start.......you will be working for the Government inside of two years........

Actually, they are driving private practioners out of practice and becoming employees of the hospital just like janitors and nurses.(just better paid)

One of my partners suspects that one they got the doctors in with the hospitals, the government will start squeezing the hospitals. I suspect that will take 3-4 years.

[JustRalph]

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[witchdoctor]

Interesting take on the stimulus bill from McCain's economic advisor.



http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=af4p4gEwXznM

[ArlJim78]

Obama has put Joe Biden in charge of the stimulus? he's the new stimulus watch-dog who will make sure its implemented efficiently?

i know i'll sleep a little easier tonight.

[Lefty]

joe's sharp. Heck, he knew there was tv in 1929 when the rest of us did not.