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rjorio
02-08-2009, 04:39 PM
NYRA is offering a 250k guarantee on the Saturday late PK4s .This should stir up interest ,but if they realy want to increase handle on this bet why not offer fifty cent increments.Another peeve of mine is the placement of a MSW in the final leg rather than the first leg of the sequence as was done this Sunday.

toetoe
02-08-2009, 05:30 PM
I think you are kidding, but I don't get it. What gives, McHale ? WHAWHAWHAT ?!?

1st time lasix
02-11-2009, 09:54 AM
lower take out if you want more interest.

The Bit
02-11-2009, 10:06 AM
I agree with both your points, althought I know a good number will disagree with lowering the betting increments.

cj's dad
02-11-2009, 10:34 AM
I agree with both your points, althought I know a good number will disagree with lowering the betting increments.

wouldn't lowering the betting increments be akin to a "stimulus package"?

The Bit
02-11-2009, 10:48 AM
I play more Pick 4's at the Fairgrounds than anyplace else because of the 50 centers. If it wasn't for the 50 cent Pick 4's, I def. wouldn't be playing the Fairgrounds pick 4 and most likely wouldn't be playing the Fairgrounds at all.

FlyinLate
02-11-2009, 11:06 AM
I agree with Bit here. I'm a law student and my funds aren't exactly there for $1 Pick4s or $2 Pick6s. A 50c pick4 is something I can actually play with a chance to hit.


I'm still aching for a 50c Pick6 :eek:

DanG
02-11-2009, 11:26 AM
If the life-blood of the wager is based upon carry-overs I understand the minimum size wager. We all realize a .10 cent pick-6 would virtually eliminate all carry-overs and eventually most big money incentive.

For EVERY other wager that is made electronically / every single imaginable denomination should be allowed. I almost understand a union ticket puncher who would rather not take .69 cent show bets, but there is no reason to exclude ANY size action for all other pools.

If you want to manually punch in .33 cent trifectas, .16 cent supers, $1.63 P4’s…bless you and join the action. Our Totalizator infrastructure is maybe one step removed from the Cro-Magnon keeping score on the cave wall.

One more thing: get in your .47 cent exacta box 2 minutes before post, because the pools should be LOCKED well before the bell. ~ end of rant.

cj's dad
02-11-2009, 11:28 AM
I think you guys missed my point. I am all in favor of 50 cent wagers on exotics with the exception of exactas.


I do think that for pick 3-4-5-6's and other exotics the minimum TOTAL wager should be $1.

The Bit
02-11-2009, 12:06 PM
I think you guys missed my point. I am all in favor of 50 cent wagers on exotics with the exception of exactas.


I do think that for pick 3-4-5-6's and other exotics the minimum TOTAL wager should be $1.

I understood you. I just didn't respond in a way that let you know. :)

I don't have an opinion on the total wager amount, so I'll agree with you.

Charlie D
02-11-2009, 12:33 PM
.This should stir up interest .


It did until i saw - Pick 4 25%

rrbauer
02-11-2009, 12:38 PM
Don't their weekend late-P4's routinely do over $200K? What is the big deal? And, if they don't like the weather they just cancel the thing anyway.

rjorio
02-11-2009, 02:13 PM
NYRA does not determine the takeout on bets.Their hands are tied,but I would love to see a reduction in the PK4 takeout. Now that would be a real stimulus.

BombsAway Bob
02-11-2009, 06:49 PM
regardless of the takeout (20% should be the Max Anywhere on a Pick-3/4/6), a fifty-cent minimum on Pick-4's should be a no-brainer for ANY track executive that knows churn. It will keep a lot more money in play when a Big-Money Pick-4 results(ones that pay between $5,000 & $9,999.90). It will unclog the W2G windows on those nuisance small P-3 & P-4's that Pay between $600 & $1,199.90.
Beyond that, by creating a shallower pool for newer players to jump in with the lower minimum, you'll increase popularity of the bet, & develop more long term players as a result. The idea of getting a Sizeable score for a smaller bet(all in a 4-race, two-hour window) makes the Pick-4 a wager with real growth potential, if promoted correctly.

rjorio
02-12-2009, 03:43 PM
No reason not to institute the fifty cent increment on pk4s in NY . It can only lead to bigger pools. Gulfstream and Fairgrounds have already recognized this fact.

toetoe
02-12-2009, 05:55 PM
The Meadowlands carryover last night just gave me an idea (uh-oh ... :eek: ):

At decent-sized-pool tracks (NY and CA), why not change the pick-six to a $1 bet on carryover days ? I know, I know; the official answer will be, "We can't," but it is very appealing. (:Salivating.)

Can you guess why I changed "Drooling" to "Salivating ?"