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Tom
01-19-2009, 01:36 PM
He wants us all to do volunteer work today, to celebrate MLK Day.
Gee, Prez-select..... most of us do that everyday. It's called a job. We show up everyday, fuel the economy, and only take about 70% of our paychecks.
Now, the 40% of the population who do not work and do not pay taxes, maybe they could do two things today? The rest of don't have time - we are at work. You fool.

Marshall Bennett
01-19-2009, 04:10 PM
Figures , wants us to volunteer while he and his family are partying with our tax dollars .

GaryG
01-19-2009, 04:40 PM
How about if all of the lazy welfare collectors were made to do some kind of work in payment for their govt checks?

cj's dad
01-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Figures , wants us to volunteer while he and his family are partying with our tax dollars .

Buckle up- it's gonna be a rocky road ahead; Jimmy Carter with attitude.

Greyfox
01-19-2009, 05:38 PM
In 2010 Tom had a change of heart and put in a hard day of volunteer service at a desk job.

http://www.jobclipart.com/images/illustrations/xsmall2/16_businessman_sleeping_on_the_job.jpg.

Hank
01-19-2009, 07:46 PM
He wants us all to do volunteer work today, to celebrate MLK Day.
Gee, Prez-select..... most of us do that everyday. It's called a job. We show up everyday, fuel the economy, and only take about 70% of our paychecks.
Now, the 40% of the population who do not work and do not pay taxes, maybe they could do two things today? The rest of don't have time - we are at work. You fool.

Tom I hate to break the news to you....but the volunteer work in contingent upon you being OFF for the MLK Holiday....:lol: been away from OT for a while and I see the same cast of clowns holding down the fort.Thanks guys always good for a laugh.:D

RichieP
01-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Maybe it could be something as simple as carrying a bag of groceries for an older person to their car at the market.

Or brushing the snow off a car for a lady.

Or praising a young child for something they have done.

Or feeding some squirrels down at the park.

Or stopping to speak with a senior citizen you have never seen before. Just a couple of minutes of your time. Forgetting the wrinkles are there and listening to what they say as there is much wisdom there. They were our age once and are still VERY much alive!

Maybe a little volunteering of our time to make something/someone else feel GOOD would fit the bill. Heck even if it doesn't think of ALL that will come back to you for the gesture :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkPr_iXsTO8

Nmytwenties
01-19-2009, 08:19 PM
Uh, wasn't our tax dollars volunteered for the banks and auto industry???

While the belief if civilian help to the society is a healthy attribute of a healthy society and nation, I will choose to take a rain check as the current regime in Washington deserves none of it.

A manevolent government wants benevolent service from the population, I say kiss my ass.

Although I wonder how long it will be before they try to make this kinda thing mandatory for those slaves who will go along with it. All the calls of sacrifice harken back to the early days of Kaganovich and his gang. "The people" "The People", yes indeed, many of those people are yet to be unearthed from their mass graves in Eastern Europe and Russia.

The lesson of the Kulak farmers in the Ukraine has obviously been lost on the "informed" masses of today. They really didn't think it was proper to surrender their independent way of doing things so they could be brought down to the level of the neur-do-wels and they well slaughtered for this.

Grits
01-19-2009, 08:20 PM
Maybe it could be something as simple as carrying a bag of groceries for an older person to their car at the market.

Or brushing the snow off a car for a lady.

Or praising a young child for something they have done.

Or feeding some squirrels down at the park.

Or stopping to speak with a senior citizen you have never seen before. Just a couple of minutes of your time. Forgetting the wrinkles are there and listening to what they say as there is much wisdom there. They were our age once and are still VERY much alive!

Maybe a little volunteering of our time to make something/someone else feel GOOD would fit the bill. Heck even if it doesn't think of ALL that will come back to you for the gesture :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkPr_iXsTO8

Being very sincere here RichieP. The world needs more of you. You're a fine person; one with eyes wide open to all that's around him, and a generous heart. One without conditions.

All of these are easily done.

(But, I'll have to get back with ya on the squirrels! We don't mix, they run birds away from my feeders, perching til their fat little bellies are full. I cuss 'em constantly!!)

Suff
01-19-2009, 08:39 PM
He wants us all to do volunteer work today, to celebrate MLK Day.
Gee, Prez-select..... most of us do that everyday. It's called a job. We show up everyday, fuel the economy, and only take about 70% of our paychecks.
Now, the 40% of the population who do not work and do not pay taxes, maybe they could do two things today? The rest of don't have time - we are at work. You fool.

Job? What F'ing job do you have? You have no job, who are you trying to bullshit? You work for the state or some nonprofit or agency something or other. Your out on Pace Advantage every day posting meaningless nonsense. all day most everyday.

What "Job" lets you do that? Does your employer know you surf the Internet all day? Posting whack job shit on a horse racing board on their dime?

That's called stealing where I come from. If you worked for me I would fire your lazy ass in an a NY minute. Where I work, people work. Where you work is some strange form of employment most of us never heard of.

If you do have a real job, which i seriously doubt, stop stealing , get to work and do what your being paid for. Your lucky you even get the 70%. you certainly don't earn it

PaceAdvantage
01-19-2009, 08:42 PM
I think Suff thinks he just struck a nerve or something. I'm thinking Tom is laughing his ass off right about now.

dutchboy
01-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Reminds me of the "Million Man March" a few years ago when only 3 of the participants had to take the day off work.

Marshall Bennett
01-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Reminds me of the "Million Man March" a few years ago when only 3 of the participants had to take the day off work.
:lol: That was good ... kinda reminds me of tomorrow .

jognlope
01-19-2009, 09:11 PM
What's the big deal about what Obama did with the painting? He works extremely full days.

Tom
01-19-2009, 09:43 PM
I think Suff thinks he just struck a nerve or something. I'm thinking Tom is laughing his ass off right about now.

Hehehe.......he is part of my grand scheme of playing real-time Wack-a-Mold, only I call it Wack-a-Wack-O! :lol::lol::lol:

Tom
01-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Tom I hate to break the news to you....but the volunteer work in contingent upon you being OFF for the MLK Holiday....:lol: been away from OT for a while and I see the same cast of clowns holding down the fort.Thanks guys always good for a laugh.:D


No, if you were to read more, you would know that he has plans for mandatory "service." BTW, he showed just what true fool and clueless fool he is today.....you probably missed it - why didn't the homeless kids who use that center do the frigging painting?????? nice message he sends out, but a typical one, "Sit on your ass and someone else will do everything for you."

Tom
01-20-2009, 07:38 AM
Job? What F'ing job do you have? You have no job, who are you trying to bullshit? You work for the state or some nonprofit or agency something or other. Your out on Pace Advantage every day posting meaningless nonsense. all day most everyday.



Hey Suff.....370HSSV-0773H

The Judge
01-20-2009, 08:52 AM
They are called photo-opts remember President Bush on the aircraft carrier. Its called "volunteer" if you don't want to do it "don't" who cares. Well it maybe come mandatory, so lets panic NOW!! This is after being led to WAR on a lie. WOW do you see why people in other countries think most of us are nuts.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/19/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4735002.shtml UPDATE: The AP reports that Michelle Obama, her daughters, and Jill Biden helped assemble care packages for U.S. troops as part of today's day of service. They did the work at RFK Stadium in Washington


President-elect Barack and Michelle Obama talk to Jedi Scott, 10 months, from Brooklyn, N.Y., while volunteering at the Sasha Bruce House in Washington. (Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times)

Check out the site it has a picture of 10 month old Scott, I 'm sure he would love to paint , but no one would give him a brush. I know Tom he is getting a freebee so he should have to work but lets wait until he is 1 year old at least then put him on a construction crew. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/on-day-of-service-obama-visits-homeless-shelter/

hcap
01-20-2009, 09:06 AM
No, if you were to read more, you would know that he has plans for mandatory "service." BTW, he showed just what true fool and clueless fool he is today.....you probably missed it - why didn't the homeless kids who use that center do the frigging painting?????? nice message he sends out, but a typical one, "Sit on your ass and someone else will do everything for you."
Gee, talk about Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Tom you are now redefining Derangement big time
Flaming, idiotic ObamaDS

BTW, Bush deserved it :lol:

Tom
01-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Who but you could get Bush out my post?
You really are obsessed, hcap.
And blinder than my governor.:cool:
I have really gotten more thoughtful replies from my pet rock, Rocky.
In fact, Rocky suggest he go visit you sometime, if I could give him a "lift!" :lol:

hcap
01-20-2009, 09:53 AM
Boy, are you out of it. I believe "Rocky" WOULD be a worthier debater.

Bush Derangement Syndrome as defined by most of you gentlemen refers to a mental condition where the afflicted is unjustly, with paranoid delusional unbalanced psychic aberrations, will blame Bush for all evils in the world.
Now the operative word is "paranoid".

I think that applies directly to your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Of course the diff is that we have 8 years of an idiot and can objectively judge his abject failure, and Obama is still untill a few minutes from now, not even President.

The lesson to be learned (Rocky are you listening?) is that paranoia is not paranoia, if they really are out to get ya'.
But you need FACTS to make that determination.
Agreed Rocky?

DJofSD
01-20-2009, 10:08 AM
Hey, hcap, do you have tingles running up and down your leg?

jballscalls
01-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Boy the nerve of someone asking us to do something nice for others!!

hcap
01-20-2009, 10:19 AM
Hey, hcap, do you have tingles running up and down your leg?
Bush will be gone very soon. Some well deserved tingles.
And history will not be kind.

This will be his legacy. Long live George W, Churchill!!

http://blort.meepzorp.com/juju/bush-shoe-dodge.gif

Tom
01-20-2009, 10:38 AM
Boy the nerve of someone asking us to do something nice for others!!

He is talking about mandatory service. And many of us DO things for others now - we carry their lazy lib arses. When everyone pays his fair share in taxes, come see me. Until then, I only help conservatives - libs are on their own. Natural selectin has been tryiong to eliminate libs and we keep interfering with welfare. I say, let them go extinct.

But so far, no one has gotten the point I made yesterday......why was OBama painting that center? Why not the people who use it and benefit from it, and slao pay no taxes and leech of us working stiffs everyday? The proper message would have been for Obama to hand them the brush and tell them get busy boys!

THAT is how we bring back this country. NOT the lib way.
Thatis why he is a fool.

hcap
01-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Natural selectin has been tryiong to eliminate libs and we keep interfering with welfare. I say, let them go extinct.

THAT is how we bring back this country. NOT the lib way.
Thatis why he is a fool.
Conservatives and rpugs were voted out by natural "selectin" (sic) (sick?) Nov4.

selectin
tryiong
Thatis

What is about you conservatives that is anti-science and denies the scientific consensus on such things as Evolution, Global Warming, proper spelling, and the inert non-intelligent existence of so-called "Pet Rocks" :lol:

JustRalph
01-20-2009, 11:11 AM
Until then, I only help conservatives - libs are on their own

This is a theme that keeps popping up lately. I see a movement............ I predicted it last year. I hope it continues.


Funny how the Libs on the Mall this weekend named their program "We are one" In reality they were 55% of one.........

GaryG
01-20-2009, 11:23 AM
Funny how the Libs on the Mall this weekend named their program "We are one" In reality they were 55% of one.........I thought it was We Are The World....I gar-on-tee there will be a group chorus of We Shall Overcome.

Tom
01-20-2009, 11:40 AM
There ya go, hcap, your ignorance is showing......scientific consensus, huh?
No such thing. Anti-science are the fools who pray at the Church of Gore. Science is not by vote, it is by fact. You guys are woefully short in that department. Save you automatic link reply - no one takes you seriously or the crap you allude to. Go watch Uncle Joe make a fool of himself again.

Here's a tip - play the Emporer's Theme fro Star Wars while watching the inaug....makes it more entertaining.

cj's dad
01-20-2009, 11:55 AM
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4123&stc=1
Is he painting over "Michelle sucks" ?? veeeerrrrryyy interesting. And laughing also.

ddog
01-20-2009, 02:58 PM
seriously....
this country cries out for a draft , it has never been the same since it was ended, most take advantage of the sacrifice of others and bray about their freedoms, they ain't worth it.

The best thing that would ever happen to most of the 20-30 somethings I see is a 2 year active and 6 year reserve duty.
No outs other than health by military docs.

USe it or lose it.

Tom
01-20-2009, 03:28 PM
We have a volunteer army now. Nothing else is needed.
Here's the deal - NO government has the right to tell it's citizens they have to serve in the military. If a country cannot get enough volunteers to defend it, may it is not worth defending. WE are not in that situation. You and the other libs are using the military as part or your moronic feel good socialist bullshit agenda. It s a stupid idea.

Here's the deal - no one owes this or any government a damn thing other than be responsible for yourself. As long as you are not a welfare leech and pay your fair share, you owe ZERO. To start a draft is just cause to rebel and fight here in our own streets.

Marshall Bennett
01-20-2009, 04:15 PM
While a draft to some degree would seem like a good idea , I'm fairly certain this upcoming generation of spoiled brats would not be best suited for military service . Take away their Ipods and cell phones and they're basically useless . I'm with Tom on this one though not entirely for the same reasons . Let those who truely want to serve join , and heaven forbid if a military crisis evolves , only then bring back the draft .

ddog
01-20-2009, 04:29 PM
tougher than these punks have been "broken-in" I assure you.

for the ones that can't cut it , well thers's always dishonor, that looks good on little Tommy's resume.
They don't even have to serve in a war zone , there is plenty for "those kind" to do here with low cost labor.

Hank
01-20-2009, 04:35 PM
"Here's the deal - no one owes this or any government a damn thing other than be responsible for yourself."

I think it depends on what you are capable of.So Yea Tom in your case if you can care for yourself despite your "limitations":lol: bravo,...but other more capable folks must do more.

ddog
01-20-2009, 04:37 PM
like I said the country has really gone down hill since the draft was stopped.

It's the only chance most of the under 40 crowd ever had to grow up.

Well that's lost for them now.

Lefty
01-20-2009, 05:00 PM
there are people who volunteer every day without being told to by the govt. Good people will always be good people and layabouts will always be layabouts.

Marshall Bennett
01-20-2009, 05:11 PM
It's the only chance most of the under 40 crowd ever had to grow up.

The modern day spoiled brat isn't good at being told what to do . The modern day spoiled brat's parents aren't good at having " Little Tommy " shipped away and being told what to do . They weren't good at it in the first place . A 50's or 60's style military would have shored them up for sure . Today they deem them as hopeless and send them back home . You've got the right idea dog , just the wrong time period .

riskman
01-20-2009, 05:30 PM
While a draft to some degree would seem like a good idea , I'm fairly certain this upcoming generation of spoiled brats would not be best suited for military service . Take away their Ipods and cell phones and they're basically useless

If you are talking about baby boomers being a bunch of spoiled brats, I am in complete agreement with you. I would also add that they are probably the most selfish too.
The white spoiled brat hoods are still very much embedded in our govt. media and finance. Time will tell if they can be rooted out to go another direction .. They will do anything, at all costs, to keep everything flowing to them just like it has for 30 years. This is only the beginning...

Hope the "net" generation of Ipods and cell phones may we have the guts to rise above whatever challenges we all confront after the mess we left them the last four years.

Tom
01-20-2009, 06:12 PM
So Obama is a failure because he did not serve? I assume that is what you are saying here.

CryingForTheHorses
01-20-2009, 07:16 PM
From what I read from a lot of you posters,CHANGE will never come.As long as we have people against anything someone suggests,There iwll always be divesity in your minds and actions. I think you need to give the man a chance!!...Put all your bickering aside and join your once proud nation to heal from her wounds.

hcap
01-20-2009, 07:30 PM
From what I read from a lot of you posters,CHANGE will never come.As long as we have people against anything someone suggests,There iwll always be divesity in your minds and actions. I think you need to give the man a chance!!...Put all your bickering aside and join your once proud nation to heal from her wounds. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Sailwolf
01-20-2009, 07:48 PM
So Obama is a failure because he did not serve? I assume that is what you are saying here.


And George served in Vietnam????

PaceAdvantage
01-20-2009, 07:57 PM
:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:I betcha hcap posted these same 5 thumbs-up when someone requested that you give GWB a chance instead of the idiotic "he stole the election" crap we had to hear for years and years....

Then again, probably not...

lsbets
01-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Define give the guy a chance. Roll over and let the guy do whatever he wants, because, oh what they hell, because that's what the left wants. Or, commend him when right, disagree with him when wrong, but show the man, and more importantly the office, respect. Option 1 - hell no. Option 2 - hell yes. Too bad the left was incapable of doing that.

Lefty
01-20-2009, 08:13 PM
MC, don't worry, Obama will have pleny of chances. But I don't have much hope for his sort of change. He stands for everything i'm against. In his campaig ne he talks about reducing monies for new weapon technology and no funding for the Missile Shield program. He talks about raising taxes on the producers and risk takers and giving checks to those that do not pay taxes.
He has put panetta in charge of the CIA. Panetta has always criticized the CIA.
I don't think Obama is bringing the kind of change I want. I don't believe you can save the economy with bigger spending programs and I don't believe you can save the country from our enemies through appeasement.
And I don't believe in abortion.
So I and others have a real problem with Obama and his congress.
But he will have his chance.

Lefty
01-20-2009, 08:26 PM
BTW, I will not attack Obama personally as did libs everywhere to Bush. I will only criticize his positions when I think he's wrong. Should be plenty of chances there.

hcap
01-20-2009, 10:23 PM
I betcha hcap posted these same 5 thumbs-up when someone requested that you give GWB a chance instead of the idiotic "he stole the election" crap we had to hear for years and years....

Then again, probably not...I wasn't a member of this board when bush "stole the election"'. Join Date: Nov 2002.

I didn't get pissed really with bush until Iraq. Until then I considered him somewhat illiterate and realized his "bushisms" pegged his intellect. But he himself got a laugh out of some. Good spirit, not too bright.

But soon bought into the "dark side" of the Dickster, and the other neocons. No longer good spirited. Now the "WAR PREZNIT". NOW the "decider". Playing dressup was not very becoming. And then Katrina destroyed him.

Thumbs up in the beginning. After the first day? Maybe
A year later, a disaster

Lefty
01-20-2009, 10:47 PM
hcap, my my, still dealing in 8 yr old lib fanatsy? No election was stolen and you know it. Recount after recount showed Bush winning by ever increasing numbers. Now Gore did try to steal it, maybe that's what you mean.
Bush is gone, let's try to focus, shall we?

Tom
01-20-2009, 11:29 PM
Give him a change?
Heal from out wounds????

No change to foolish socialist, and NO HEALING. You do not learn to live with cancer.

Work together? Duh.......how do you work with a POS like Dingy Harry, Murtha, Pelosi.....no, you destroy your enemies. The republican are out because they tried to become more like dems. You get crap like John McCain.
No thanks......never abandon your principals - no chances for losers.
I want to widen the divide, not heal it.

hcap
01-21-2009, 07:27 AM
The republicans are out because a large majority of Americana no longer believe them, or believe in their failed policies. That applies to you as well Tommy-Boy.
Showing us your ass or believing in pet rocks as intelligent entities is not too convincing either.

BTW, believing in pet rocks as intelligent entities is about the smartest political view you have

BTW2, speaking of pet rocks, Sarah Palin did NOT help the election much either

fast4522
01-21-2009, 07:44 AM
"The republicans are out because a large majority of Americana no longer believe them, or believe in their failed policies. That applies to you as well Tommy-Boy."

The facts are what they are, there has been a shift because Americans have a dislike for war, the fact that the housing bubble burst just before the elections. Some feel there has been a grand change, but in fact it will get worse before it gets better. While fundamentalist favor the new President they still hate us and want to see all of us dead with Israel and we can expect more bloodshed soon enough. As for the next shift in the American politic, the people of this country are still split even though it appears different now, and there is someone new kick as we will soon see.