The next conditioning project in full swing.

[Nmytwenties]

The media masters, content with the fact that they have broken racial barriers with the election of Obama (of course they seem not to care that blacks were quite "racist" by voting for Obama on the basis of him being black, of course in the eyes of the media bosses only whites can be racist all others are entitled to be loyal to their own without any flack) they are now moving on full bore to promote the acceptance of homosexuality and now this "transgendered" BS.

First there was the "man having the baby" BS a few months ago and now you have a show highly promoted to young people, The Real World, which not only has a homosexual male but also a he/she as well. Of course this freak is being portrayed as a misunderstood poor dear that just wants to be accepted.

Is anyone else bothered by adult people on TV refering to biological males as "she" and vice versa?? This is madness even if it is just the calculated conditioning of the media.

The fact is that as recently as the 1970's this behavior, homosexuality and all of its likenesses (Transsexuals,etc) was considered to be a psychological disorder by the medical community. It wasn't until the creatures that control America's media chose to promote it as another way to break down the nation from within was it something to be tolerated and now accepted.

At root in this phenomenon is this atmosphere of absolutely no standards of behavior that are defined as improper. The only thing considered wrong are those people of good moral character who define certain things as being right and wrong. Canadians can now be prosecuted for using the Bible to argue against homosexuality. The media says,"there is no discipline in place in this society. Why standing up for anything as being "right" or "wrong" would make us....gasp....Nazis, we must never pass judgement on anyone for anything."

Now the real problem.

There is only passive resistance to this plague on the part of the silent majority of those who are morally alright. They try to stop the onslaught through voting for things such as the Prop 8 in California only to see the courts overturn the will of the people, once again exposing the fraud of modern Democracy, when the media establishment and their minions don't get what they want they just use their courts to stifle the will of the people. You then have the perverts parading in the streets, protesting the vote, without any proper response from the population. Why are not the people who voted for this Proposition out in force, cracking the heads of these perverts???

What the silent majority seems not to realize is that this will never end. In the Netherlands there is an established political party that actually advocates the "rights" and interests of pedophiles. Sure they don't get much but scorn now but that is nothing about 10 years of conditioning will rub out and it will happen here to, after all, that is not a choice, they are "born that way".

People need to have the mindset of actively opposing this crap. If your born a man, your a man, you can't make the "choice" to change it. There are some things, such as natures laws, that cannot be dictated by the will of man and either you will live as nature created you or you will not be permitted to live in society, we have asylums for you if you wish to oppose the will of nature with your perverted whims. Why is this so hard for the silent majority to stand up for, I mean for god sake oppose these people outside of stepping into a booth.

I gave up a while back on the passive silent majority ever standing up for themselves. Keep living with this mantra, "there sexual preference or lifestyle choices have no effect on anyone else and they are no different except for this small detail" and things will just decend further. Yeah tell that to the victims families of killers such as John Wayne Gacy and Jeffery Dahmer.

[PaceAdvantage]

Without defending or opposing anything you've written, I will state that your reasoning at times is full of holes.

The Earth was once considered flat by most every single major scientist/astronomer. That of course didn't make it so. Just because the medical community USED to classify homosexuality et.al. as psychological disorders does not necessarily mean that was/is the reality of the situation. Again, I'm not taking ANY position in this dog fight...just pointing out that some of your points are seriously flawed.

The same can be said for making an example of Gacy and Dahmer. There have been plenty of "straight" homicidal maniacs as well....

And your "cracking the heads" comment is more than a little disturbing.

I am firmly convinced that we don't ever have to get anywhere near violence to marginalize the "secular progressives" (as O'Reilly likes to call them).

[Nmytwenties]

Sometimes I think I am the only one that is noticing what they are doing. I mean why aren't people reacting in any noticeable fashion when you have had a media establishment that calls men "she's" and women as "he's" just because they want to be considered as such regardless of nature???
This is insanity, its total insanity. Your born a man, your a MAN. I don't give a damn what surgery you have done on yourself.

An exact quote from this grotesque show The Real World after they discuss this freak's identity, "hey you have the reciepts to prove who you are."

No you are still a man, a man who has been mutilated willfully, but your still a man. Existence on earth is not about getting everything you want and you can't decide on what sex you want to be. Straighten up real quick or we can remove you from proper society. Nah that would be too "Nazi".

Guarantee you that that "responsible conservative" pansy O'Reilly would never say that, as much as his core audience would get up and applaud. His masters behind the camera would fire him if he ever took this stand, and alas this is where the whole problem lies, media in the hands of anti Western criminals.

I mean is one to be idenified as a giraffe if they feel like it then the next week they change back to a man??

I think those that recognize the way things were before the media bosses started changing societal norms are perfectly fine with the conclusions of modern science and the medical community before they were subjected to all of the pressures of the current era of political correctness.

Are not most homosexuals not preoccupied with sex and perversion more than the rest of the population as a whole?? My main concern is not these perverts as they will be mop up work after the architects of the destruction of the West are called to account, its just something that I have been noticing over the past few years and it has been more constant in the past 6 months.

I am by nature not a violent person but I don't believe that it is proper to believe that it can be ruled out by those who want to defend the principles of right and wrong from the destroyers. I certainly don't think that violence should come before major organization and building of an infrastructure that can establish a new governing order. I don't believe its necessary to destroy the current regime in power, their policies will ensure it will cave in on itself.

But anyone who permits this kind of stuff to be imposed on their children without anything more than passive resistance should be ashamed.

This guy had more guts than most people do in standing up for the nations young minds. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45594 And he gets arrested. So I guess then that it should just stop there, let any kind of outrage go on without any real response?

Look I am all for just confronting them, telling them what freaks they are, and have that be that. But when you have a manevolent government that is cramming this filth down the throats of young people, what do you do then???

O'Reilly and his followers are trying to conserve something that isn't there anymore, a legit America. He fights with one hand willfully tied behind his back and would never clue his viewers in on who the people at the root of America's ills are.

[PaceAdvantage]

Are not most homosexuals not preoccupied with sex and perversion more than the rest of the population as a whole??Not being a homosexual, I wouldn't know. But, I would venture a guess that most MALE homosexuals are equally as preoccupied with sex and/or perversion as any other MALE...and the research generally shows that we MALES (hetero or homo) think about sex a LOT. :lol:

[OTM Al]

Being gay is not a new thing. The fact is that there always have been gays, so then wouldn't you have to say that they are also part of all this country's successes as well?

BTW, who else do you think should be locked away for being different than you? Others have thought like you in the past. Gays have used the pink triangle as a symbol of what can happen. Do you know where that comes from? Do you approve?

Just in case you haven't heard this before, all gays are not pedophiles just like all straights are not rapists. Being gay and preying on children are two very different things. Dahmer might have had sex with men but that wasn't why he killed and did what he did.

You are asked for tolerance only. That does not mean that you have to accept or approve in the way gays lead their lives. It just means you need to respect their rights as people. I have several gay friends. I don't understand the attraction, but then I'm not gay. What I do do is treat them like fellow human beings and friends.

[HUSKER55]

i don't think the issue is tolerance for the majority of the people. What I object to is legislation for the few and then getting it shoved down my throat.

It is the same equivalent of one (1) athiest stopping 500 people from praying and the law takes the atheiest side. Remember the issue of prayer in schools? Or how about the most recent issue, which religions to study in school.

I am not interested in your sex life and I don't feel the need to make an issue of it.

The real issue comes in the form of getting insurance and benefits. If the companies don't want to issue policies then they don't have to. But gays think they have this right. The correct answer is no they don't. The insurance companies have a right to not enter a contract, the same as you have a right to not enter a contract.

Get over it. Start your own insurance company.

Think about it. Job benefits and insurance are contracts between two parties in agreement. If you don't like the contract then don't enter it. Using gay analogy you could argue that a landlord is charging too much rent because you are gay. Is that fair?

Get my point?

[Boris]

The "silent majority" continues to vote down expanding rights of socially defined special interest groups. However, you missed the "acceptance battle".

If you are upset by Real World, please cancel your cable before you find the Logo Channel.

[jballscalls]

Are not most homosexuals not preoccupied with sex and perversion more than the rest of the population as a whole?? .

Agree with PA here, name any guy, straight or gay, who isnt preoccupied by sex. If you think about it, it's probably just easier for gay guys to get it, because they are pursuing other guys, who are equally preoccupied with sex. Us straight guys have to wine and dine and go through all the hoops to woo a lass!!

The thing i don't get is when people say stuff is forced down our throats. Maybe it's cause i dont have a tv, but I sure don't feel as if anything has been forced upon me, ever. Except for maybe Obama, i do feel like people feel a need to make others like him, it's a strange phenomenon.

[kenwoodallpromos]

"They" always push the envelope and always cater to the projected likes and acceptance of the target audience. Now post-3 network TV, They are over 200 channels on my dish TV.
TV from the start has always catered to what is different (Milton Berle in a dress in the 1940's). Consider Gilligan, Fonzie, Erkle, Bernie Mac, Fresh Prince, Dietribe. Also females are almost always smarter, better looking, straight.
Now consider what males go into acting instead of sports in high school.
My nephew is in USC film school to build his directing career- I have sent several movie (could be TV) ideas to him. Those ideas would not be Ozzie and Harriet. They are unusual real situations like Alzheimer's, foster kids, Bloodhounds but with twists that make things funny or at least interesting.
1 more thing- TV is TV, Tele (far) Vision (to see). That means is it not intended to be a mirror of the "Real World". That would be boring as watching lone speed always winning on HRTV!

[socantra]

This guy had more guts than most people do in standing up for the nations young minds. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45594 And he gets arrested. So I guess then that it should just stop there, let any kind of outrage go on without any real response?


Is it normal, even for WorldNetDaily to post stories from 2005 as current news.....strange.

[Tom]

To trust the education of our children to an agency as corrupt, vile, immoral, and outright incompetent as our government is maddening. Government has no business trying to run schools and no ability to do so.

[socantra]

To trust the education of our children to an agency as corrupt, vile, immoral, and outright incompetent as our government is maddening. Government has no business trying to run schools and no ability to do so.

I'm just curious. We've been doing public education in this country for well over 350 years, or longer than its been a country. Most would think that an educated populous is a good thing. Are you saying that you are against public education and against government involvement in the schools in any way?

[Tom]

Yes. Government run education is a failure. The people who excel and are the movers and shakers do so by buying their own education. Long ago, it might have been working, but that was back when people had more character, integrity, and dedication. Today, our schools are more of a propaganda machine than houses of learning.The teach kids what to think, not how. They lower the bar to make sure the dumbest of the grade is the standard,instead of the highest. We turn out classes that cannot balance a checkbook, understand a credit card, or read a food label, and have far more knowledge of how to get a hand out than a job. It is appalling. I believe it is by design, preparing us for socialism. Dumb people need to be controlled.

I will say there is very little I learned in high school aside from math that I ever needed to use in real life. I could have gone from 8th grade to college and done far better. State and local govs should have a role in financing education, but the Feds have no business in it at all.

Out two greatest assets have been our educated population and our right to vote. Government has bastardized both institutions beyond belief.
The sad fact is that there is no one in government smarter than a 5th grader.

What percent of the average school tax bill do your think actually goes to teaching? 10%? 15%? I would guess 10-15%. We turn out better football players than readers.

[Nmytwenties]

Tom - In response to your comments regarding the nature and character of the current government in Washington, I believe you termed them as, "corrupt,vile,immoral, and outright incompetant".

I couldn't have put it better myself. :ThmbUp:

[socantra]

Yes. Government run education is a failure. The people who excel and are the movers and shakers do so by buying their own education.

I am happy for you that you have been a product of those privileged classes who have been able to buy their education and have thus been able to join the ranks of the movers and shakers.

As a product of several generations that have been able to better themselves through the good offices of public education and move from dirt farmers to PhD s, I lack the appreciation for privilege that you apparently have.

I still remember my grandfather telling me how important an education was and I took the message to heart. My father got his PhD; I fell between the cracks and got a very good public education without the papers, but my daughter got her PhD and her son is now starting college as a national merit scholar.

Along the line, my mother, brother and several others in the family have had to settle for being public school teachers, though several did manage to get their masters degree.

Not a whole lot of movers and shakers in the family, though we did manage to contribute several solid citizens, a state legislator and a Methodist Bishop. I don't feel the need to apologize for most of them.

I respect your opinion on horse racing. The rest..............................

[Tom]

I don't think you understand a thing I posted. You are saying the same thing I did, basically. You are not attending now, but back when the system was not corrupted. Your relatives that went to college did exactly what I suggested - and turned out to be movers and shakers. They bought a higher education, you got a good. I have a two year degree, and one year towards a BS. That's it. I don't know where your sarcasm is coming from, but it is not warranted. I'm talking abut people who take the step to make something of themselves and it has nothing to do with privilege. I had to work three jobs to pay my tuition. Today's school systems are failing to educate most kids and is moving them out unprepared to function. I'm talking about today's schools.

[socantra]

I am also talking about today's schools. I'll give you that it has been a few years since I attended, but my grandson just got out last year and he has a half sister that just got out a couple of years ago. They buth did quite well with public schools. Of course, it took considerable work on their parts, as well as considerable parental involvement and some community involvement.

I believe those factors have always been needed. I don't think the schools were ever anle to just pour the education into an empty vessel. Without the parental and community support and involvement there never was much they could do.

I salute your work ethic. Most of my family and friends also worked their way through school, but I don't believe they were able ro "buy' an education. For the most part, they participated in making partial payment for an education through the various state subsidized and operated public college and university systems.

As far as football players, i drive through the University of Oklahoma football stadium daily and they expend a great deal more money and effort on football than they do on reading. They do however have a library, if you absolutely insist. Education is what you make of it.