Dispute could cut signals in Vegas books

[rrbauer]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/100864.html

Ron Charles (Santa Anita):
"From an overall state of the industry, this is not a good time to be going down," Charles said. "I think it would have an impact. With Nevada suffering through a rough period and horse racing kind of following suit, I'm not sure this is the best time to be alienating our fans."

Do I laugh or do I cry? These people are pathetic. "A good time to be alienating fans"? This is from the guy that runs the racetrack that has six different surfaces in the past 15 months and has the consultants back for another "fix". I understand that he's at the mercy of those brilliant tacticians at TrackNet, but if he doesn't have something intelligent to say why doesn't he practice the "no comment" reply?

[Tom]

As Ron White said, "I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability."

[BombsAway Bob]

As Ron White said, "I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability."
but Ron let everyone know up front..."I Am NOT A Role Model!"
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.no wait, that's some OTHER LOUD OBNOXIOUS Drunken lout! :rolleyes:

[BillW]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/100864.html

Ron Charles (Santa Anita):
"From an overall state of the industry, this is not a good time to be going down," Charles said. "I think it would have an impact. With Nevada suffering through a rough period and horse racing kind of following suit, I'm not sure this is the best time to be alienating our fans."



A good track executive knows when it is a good time to alienate fans. :bang:

[boomman]

A good track executive knows when it is a good time to alienate fans. :bang:

BillW: From his quote, my thoughts exactly! Our industry will only improve when our fan base is NEVER alienated!:mad:

Boomer

[cj]

I'm sure Vegas will have to close up shop without the extremely popular racing signals...yeah, right.

[melman]

Craig the parking lots at the PHA are filled most of the time. The six horseplayers that show up are escorted to a rear area. :jump:

[rrbauer]

Funny. :lol: Tracknet playing hardball with Vegas. Vegas will still have New York (do New Yorkers go to LV?), Tampa, Oaklawn, Sunland, Turf Paradise, etc.

Tracknet's leverage might come when the big tournaments come into play in LV and there's no GP, FG or SA on the betting or video menus.

But maybe the tournaments have a separate deal for those signals....does anyone know?

[kitts]

Lived and played here since '95 and this is not the first time. I guess, worst case, I'll have to play other tracks. And Nevada still does not allow Internet horse betting.

[David-LV]

Funny. :lol: Tracknet playing hardball with Vegas. Vegas will still have New York (do New Yorkers go to LV?), Tampa, Oaklawn, Sunland, Turf Paradise, etc.

Tracknet's leverage might come when the big tournaments come into play in LV and there's no GP, FG or SA on the betting or video menus.

But maybe the tournaments have a separate deal for those signals....does anyone know?

There is no private or separate deal for the big tournaments.

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David

[Dave Schwartz]

This is not new. We've seen this before. They'll work it out - maybe in a timely manner and maybe not.

Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[BillW]

Funny. :lol: Tracknet playing hardball with Vegas. Vegas will still have New York (do New Yorkers go to LV?), Tampa, Oaklawn, Sunland, Turf Paradise, etc.

Tracknet's leverage might come when the big tournaments come into play in LV and there's no GP, FG or SA on the betting or video menus.

But maybe the tournaments have a separate deal for those signals....does anyone know?

They are fantasy bets so they really don't need the signal. Without the signal contract they may not be permitted to show the video, I'm not really sure how that works.

[rrbauer]

They are fantasy bets so they really don't need the signal. Without the signal contract they may not be permitted to show the video, I'm not really sure how that works.

Tournament players are very odds-sensitive. No video, no odds display.

[lamboguy]

for the first time ever i got to agree with tracknet on this one. vegas needs those signals at this time. the joints are empty. they need horseracing to get people in the place. if they want to start booking the horse action, i will take up shop in vegas until they throw me and a few of my friends out, then
i will find some new friends to get their money. vegas don't book horses no more because they are afraid of losing, which i guarantee they would if they chose to book their own.

places like charlestown, penn national, philly park, deleware park all pay full rates and run live race cards. why shouldn't vegas. i know to them its only a loss leader, but they need it now.

in my opinion the best thing for horseracing would be to see the casino's close up all together, and have the slots in the local racetracks like the mountain and penn national.... mountaineer and penn national are treating horseracing with respect these days, they are a good example, and i expect them to only get better, no matter which way the economy turns.

[BillW]

Tournament players are very odds-sensitive. No video, no odds display.

I wonder if the horsemen can stop the casinos from signing up for a Dish Network subscription?