Mark Guidry

[tribecaagent]

Playing Delta Downs and there's a trainer listed as Mark Guidry. Is this guy the now retired jock or a different person?

The last I recall, Mark Guidry (the rider), wanted to become a steward.

[BIG49010]

That's the ex-jock

[tribecaagent]

Wow. That's interesting. Thanks Big.

[Mineshaft]

Thats him hes a trainer now

[Miss Disco]

Yes, thats what LA jocks do when they want to retire and stay home! LOL

[tribecaagent]

How many SUCCESSFUL jockeys have gone on to be SUCCESSFUL trainers?
**I don't mean ANY rider or ANY trainer**

Bob Baffert didn't win many races as a jockey. Shoemaker wasn't a very good trainer.

How many have had Major League success doing both?

I can only think of two....Wayne Catalano & Freddy Head. I remember Ross Fenstermaker being a small man. Was he a jockey?

I've always liked Guidry on a horse and it wouldn't shock me to see him transfer that talent over to training.

[JustRalph]

Wasn't Assmussen a Jock?

[lamboguy]

keith the dad was, and his son was also, cash

[plainolebill]

Wesley Ward

[JustRalph]

I prefer another Guidry from the same town in LA

Ron Guidry........

[BIG49010]

Many jockeys become trainers after they retire, but most are not quite as successfull as Catalano. Cordero tried it for a while, then became an agent.

I guess they find it is much harder work, and the pay isn't that great.

[strapper]

Two recently retired jocks are running horses at DD, the aforementioned Mark Guidry and C.J. Woodley.

Does anyone know how long Steve Asmussen rode as an apprentice? I know he was in NY as a bug.

[point given]

benny feliciano flies under the radar, but is hi % and now at tampa.

[jognlope]

I remember Mark's smile when he won a big race, can still remember it!!

[JWBurnie]

benny feliciano flies under the radar, but is hi % and now at tampa.

There's a trainer in MD named Benny Feliciano, who was also a jock. Same guy? If so, I didn't know he had a string at Tampa as well.

[point given]

There's a trainer in MD named Benny Feliciano, who was also a jock. Same guy? If so, I didn't know he had a string at Tampa as well.
I'm guessing yes.

[JohnGalt1]

Woody Stephens started out as a jockey.

At 5' 8" and over 150 pounds he grew to big to ride.

For younger fans, he won over 200 stakes races as a trainer, including 5 straight Belmonts 1982-86. He trained Conquistador Cielo, Danzig, Swale, Forty Niner and other champions.

[BillW]

keith the dad was, and his son was also, cash

Cash was his father's son (i.e. Steve's brother)

[BillW]

Wasn't Assmussen a Jock?

I assume you are talking about Steve?

He took out his jockey's license at age 16. Rode for three years in New Mexico, California and New York before retiring because of weight ...

http://www.ntra.com/stats_bios.aspx?id=5042 :)

[strapper]

Veteran trainer Kenward Bernis (Delta Downs) rode as a young teen along with his brother Tee Red. Kenward is a colorful guy, always raises his Stetson in the winner's circle when he wins a race. His son was one of the last ones standing on Survivor a year ago and he was quite proud of that.

[SaratogaSteve]

Mike Miceli, Bobby Barbara, Leah Gyamarti are 3 I can think of who have done OK as trainers...

[affirmedny]

John Longden (won the derby), Art Sherman, Burl Mcbride

[PaceAdvantage]

I prefer another Guidry from the same town in LA

Ron Guidry........I believe I read once that Mark and Ron are cousins...anyone care to back me up on this?

[tribecaagent]

I believe I read once that Mark and Ron are cousins...anyone care to back me up on this?

Don't have any evidence to back you up, but they sure do look alike.

[The Hawk]

Wayne Catalano
Mike McCarthy

[tribecaagent]

Mike Miceli, Bobby Barbara, Leah Gyamarti are 3 I can think of who have done OK as trainers...

Along your lines of thinking, Randi Persaud fits as well. Randi & Bobby are tremendous horsemen. However, all four were below average as jockeys.

Mike McCarthy is an interesting one, he was a heads-up rider. Last I recall, he's running Todd Pletcher's west coast division. Shrewd move on both guys' part because prior to this, McCarthy did OK as a trainer on his own.

[SaratogaSteve]

Along your lines of thinking, Randi Persaud fits as well. Randi & Bobby are tremendous horsemen. However, all four were below average as jockeys.

Mike McCarthy is an interesting one, he was a heads-up rider. Last I recall, he's running Todd Pletcher's west coast division. Shrewd move on both guys' part because prior to this, McCarthy did OK as a trainer on his own.

Agree about jockey-talent v. training talent. It seems similar to average athletes becoming good coaches.

Is that the same Mike McCarthy from FL?

[Steve 'StatMan']

Another former rider that started training within the last couple years is Ray Sibille.

[tribecaagent]

Agree about jockey-talent v. training talent. It seems similar to average athletes becoming good coaches.

Is that the same Mike McCarthy from FL?

Yes. I also remember Mr. McCarthy having plenty of success in the mid-atlantic & south east regions. (Delaware, Philadelphia, Gulfstream, Hialeah)

[tribecaagent]

Agree about jockey-talent v. training talent. It seems similar to average athletes becoming good coaches.

Is that the same Mike McCarthy from FL?

P.S. - I know there is a "Steve from Saratoga" who's the host of a certain thoroughbred racing radio program. Is this you?

[colonial]

Wasn't Assmussen a Jock?


yes he was but got to big .

[BillW]

P.S. - I know there is a "Steve from Saratoga" who's the host of a certain thoroughbred racing radio program. Is this you?

Only if he has a second PA acct.

[Alyblakester]

Guy Smith is training at Delta as is Chad Hassenpflug (ex QH rider).

[SaratogaSteve]

P.S. - I know there is a "Steve from Saratoga" who's the host of a certain thoroughbred racing radio program. Is this you?
no sir. My touting abilities aren't meant for radio...

[Hajck Hillstrom]

Wesley WardEclipse Award winning apprentice in the `80's, and a pretty decent trainer these days. I would dub him the best of the "what have you done for me lately" winner in this category. :ThmbUp:

[strapper]

Eclipse Award winning apprentice in the `80's, and a pretty decent trainer these days. I would dub him the best of the "what have you done for me lately" winner in this category. :ThmbUp:

Wesley Ward has certainly made his mark with the juveniles!

[tribecaagent]

Woody Stephens started out as a jockey.

At 5' 8" and over 150 pounds he grew to big to ride.

For younger fans, he won over 200 stakes races as a trainer, including 5 straight Belmonts 1982-86. He trained Conquistador Cielo, Danzig, Swale, Forty Niner and other champions.

John,

Did Woody ever win a Classic race(s)? Was he an above average rider?