Men's College Basketball Rankings

[highnote]

After only about 8 games into the season, here is how my computer software ranks the teams.


North Carolina 1051.3
Clemson 1038.8
BYU 1034.5
Gonzaga 1033.8
Connecticut 1029.3
Oklahoma 1029.1
Dayton 1028.3
Pittsburgh 1028.1
San Diego St. 1027.9
Duke 1025
West Virginia 1024.9
Arizona St. 1024.6
Illinois St. 1023.9
Butler 1023.5
Charleston 1023.3
Missouri 1022.5
Wake Forest 1022.5
Rhode Island 1022.2
Jacksonville St. 1022.1
Minnesota 1021.5
Syracuse 1021.2
Ohio St. 1020.1
Northwestern 1019.6
Illinois 1019.3
Baylor 1018.9
Villanova 1018.8
Kansas 1018.4
South Carolina 1017.5
Tennessee 1017.5
Florida St. 1017.2
Georgetown 1017.2
Washington St. 1016.5
LSU 1016.3
Houston 1016.1
Penn St. 1016
Marquette 1015.8
Davidson 1015.3
St. Mary's 1015.2
Niagara 1015.1
Ill. Chicago 1013.5
East Carolina 1012.6
Xavier 1012.1
Portland St. 1011.5
Memphis 1011.4
George Mason 1011.2
Austin Peay 1011.1
Arkansas St. 1010.7
UNLV 1010.7
Georgia Tech 1010.4
Texas A&M 1010.1
Iowa St. 1009.8
Miami (OH) 1009.7
Virginia Military 1009.3
Murray St. 1009
Eastern Kentucky 1008.9
Texas 1008.9
Stony Brook 1008.5
AR Little Rock 1008.4
Utah St. 1008.4
Michigan 1008.2
N.C. State 1008
E. Tennessee St. 1007.9
Nebraska 1007.7
Boston Coll. 1007.6
Western Carolina 1007.5
Florida 1007
Louisville 1007
California 1006.9
Texas Tech 1006.9
Mississippi St. 1006.8
Stanford 1006.8
Albany 1006.5
Mississippi 1006.5
Evansville 1006.4
Cincinnati 1006
Arkansas 1005.7
Wisconsin 1005.7
USC 1005.5
UAB 1005.3
UCLA 1005.1
Drake 1004.8
Seton Hall 1004.8
Akron 1004.7
Belmont 1004.5
Navy 1004.2
Notre Dame 1003.9
Oakwood 1003.8
Utah 1003.8
St. John's 1003.7
Iowa 1003.6
Creighton 1003
Miami (FL) 1003
Rider 1002.9
Rutgers 1002.9
Vermont 1002.6
St. Bonaventure 1002.4
N.C. A&T 1002.2
Maine 1002.1
Nicholls St. 1002.1
Boise St. 1002
Manhattan 1001.7
Alabama 1001.6
Wyoming 1001.6
Arizona 1001.3
Kansas St. 1001.3
Tennessee Tech 1001.1
Eastern Wash. 1000.7
North Dakota St. 1000.4
Liberty 1000.2
Wis. Green Bay 999.9
Providence 999.7
Kentucky 999.6
Long Beach St. 999.3
UC Riverside 999.1
Purdue 999
Cleveland St. 998.9
West. Kentucky 998.9
Maryland 998.7
New Mexico 998.2
Hofstra 998.1
Texas A&M C.C. 998.1
Ball St. 997.9
South Dakota St. 997.9
Boston U. 997.7
Air Force 997.6
TX Arlington 997.6
Duquesne 997.4
North Texas 997.2
McNeese St. 997.1
Missouri St. 997
Virginia 996.8
VCU 996.7
Portland 996.6
Central Conn. St. 996.2
Kennesaw St. 996.2
Stetson 995.9
Texas Wesleyan 995.8
Virginia Tech 995.8
Wagner 995.7
Pacific 995.5
South Florida 995.4
Appalachian St. 995.2
Binghamton 995.2
Washington 995.1
Western St. 994.7
Gardner-Webb 994.6
Richmond 994.5
San Francisco 994.4
Buffalo 994
CSU Monterey Bay 993.8
Lehigh 993.8
Texas St. 993.8
Long Island 993.5
Tuskegee 993.1
Prairie View A&M 992.8
SE Louisiana 992.6
Harvard 992.5
La Salle 992.4
Michigan St. 992.3
Great Falls 992.1
Stephen F. Austin 992.1
William Carey 992.1
Hampton 992
Presbyterian 991.9
Mount St. Mary's 991.8
Oklahoma St. 991.8
St. Joseph's 991.8
Southern Miss 991.6
San Jose St. 991.4
Wofford 991.4
Temple 991.3
Bowling Green 991.2
Wis. Milwaukee 991.1
Auburn 991
Geo. Washington 990.7
SMU 990.7
Arkansas-Monticello 990.6
TCU 990.5
Hardin-Simmons 990.3
DePaul 990.1
S. Carolina St. 990.1
Idaho 990
Cal Poly 989.9
Montana St. 989.8
Tougaloo 989.8
Valparaiso 989.8
Limestone 989.6
Santa Clara 989.5
Towson 989.5
Northeastern 989.4
Johnson & Wales (FL) 989.2
St. Francis (NY) 989.2
Loyola (LA) 989.1
Middle Tenn. St. 989.1
Montana 989.1
New Hampshire 989.1
South Alabama 989
Oregon 988.9
Citadel 988.8
Lamar 988.8
Huston-Tillotson 988.6
Mercer 988.6
Charleston S. 988.4
John Brown 988.4
IUPUI 988.3
Allen 987.2
Colorado 987.2
Central Baptist 987.1
Montana-Western 987.1
Vanguard 987.1
Texas-Tyler 986.7
Haskell 986.6
Old Dominion 986.6
Carver Bible 986.5
Manchester 986.4
Marshall 986.4
Louisiana College 986.2
Webber 986.2
Campbell 986
Drexel 985.9
Le Moyne 985.9
Fairfield 985.8
North Alabama 985.4
Southern Virginia 985.4
Siena 985.3
Radford 985
IPFW 984.8
UC San Diego 984.8
UTSA 984.6
Alaska-Anchorage 984.5
Coker 984.5
Southern Utah 984.4
Lipscomb 984.1
Bradley 983.9
Nevada 983.9
Colorado-Colorado Springs 983.7
Ohio 983.7
Alabama A&M 983.6
Reinhardt 983.6
New Mexico St. 983.3
Hawaii 982.9
Vanderbilt 982.9
Utah Valley St. 982.4
Central Arkansas 982.2
Georgia 982.1
Northwestern St. 981.9
Atlanta Christian 981.8
Princeton 981.8
Hope International 981.7
Northern Iowa 981.5
William & Mary 981.5
Oakland 981.3
LA Lafayette 981.2
Colorado St. 980.8
Sacred Heart 980.6
Suffolk 980.6
CSU Bakersfield 980.5
Samford 980.5
American 980.4
Georgia St. 979.9
San Diego 979.9
James Madison 979.8
Jacksonville 979.7
UC Davis 979.6
UCSB 979.4
Quinnipiac 979.3
Cornell 979.1
Northern Colorado 979.1
Southern Ill. 979.1
Robert Morris 978.7
Wichita St. 978.7
W. Michigan 978.5
Paul Quinn 978.4
Yale 978.4
Bethune-Cookman 978.3
Tulsa 978.3
Florida Intl. 978.2
Georgia Southern 978.2
Longwood 978.2
Oregon St. 978.2
Denver 977.5
Louisiana Tech 977.4
Elon 977.3
Iona 977.2
Northern Arizona 977.1
North Dakota 977
Fresno St. 976.9
Morgan St. 976.8
UCF 976.8
Cent. Michigan 976.5
Loyola Chicago 976.5
Marist 976.3
Savannah St. 976
Tulane 975.5
Mo. Kansas City 975.4
Eastern Illinois 975.3
CSU Fullerton 975.2
Sam Houston St. 975
Southern-New Orleans 974.8
Tennessee Temple 974.8
Texas Pan Amer. 974.7
Saint Louis 974.5
Marygrove College 974.4
Chicago St. 974.3
Alabama St. 972.9
Tennessee St. 972.8
Florida Atlantic 972.7
Western Ill. 972.7
IU-SouthBend 972.4
Columbia 972.2
Canisius 971.7
East. Michigan 971.6
Virginia-Wise 971.6
Kent St. 971.4
CSU Northridge 971.3
Northern Illinois 971.1
Texas A&M Intl 970.8
UTEP 970.6
Brown 970.1
Detroit 969.8
Oral Roberts 969.7
St. Francis (PA) 969.5
Coppin St. 969.4
Indiana 969.4
Delaware 969.1
Idaho St. 968.7
High Point 968.5
St. Peter's 968.4
Oakland City 967.9
LA Monroe 967.7
Mayville St. 967
Texas Southern 967
Rice 966.6
Youngstown St. 966.5
Morehead St. 966.4
Bucknell 966
N.C. Asheville 965.7
New Orleans 965.6
Weber St. 965.4
Sacramento St. 965.2
Massachusetts 965.1
MD Eastern Shore 964.4
Montreat 964.4
Army 964.3
Toccoa Falls 964.2
Troy 963.5
Holy Cross 963.1
Wright St. 962.7
Dartmouth 962.6
Toledo 962.4
SE Missouri St. 962.1
Fla Gulf Coast 961.6
Tenn-Martin 961.4
Chattanooga 961.2
Colgate 961.2
Lyon 961.2
Jackson St. 961.1
Winthrop 961.1
N.C. Greensboro 959.8
Centenary 959.6
Grambling St. 959.6
Furman 959.5
Charlotte 958.7
Coastal Carolina 958.3
Southern 958
Indiana St. 956.5
Howard 955.6
South Carolina Upstate 955.3
Pennsylvania 954.9
Norfolk St. 954.6
Loyola (MD) 952.4
Delaware St. 952.2
Alcorn St. 952.1
UC Irvine 952
Chaminade 951.9
AR Pine Bluff 950.1
Hartford 948.7
Lafayette 948.5
Winston-Salem 947.9
Fordham 946.3
Monmouth 942.8
Loyola Marymount 942.2
Pepperdine 940.8
Fair. Dickinson 939.1
Houston Baptist 937.5
Florida A&M 937.4
N.C. Wilmington 933.1
N.J.I.T. 930.3
N.C. Central 926.8
Miss. Valley St. 924.8
North Florida 923.3

[cj]

I wouldn't be betting on those rankings yet! Maryland is like 6-2 with wins over Michigan and Michigan St and losses to very good Gonzaga and Georgetown, yet they are below such perennial powerhouses such as Jacksonville State, Niagara, Austin Peay and STONY BROOK?

[DanG]

North Carolina should be ranked 1-10. Barring injuries they are one of the great teams in college history. :ThmbUp:

[rrbauer]

Best teams that I've watched so far this season are NC and Gonzaga.

[Figman]

Some teams are undervalued on this chart!

Albany ELEVEN points over Siena......hogwash!
Siena played a "fair" game this past Saturday and handily defeated Albany for the fourth straight year.

[highnote]

These are Elo chess ratings. According to the theory, about 30 games are required for a "true" rating to emerge.

In the meantime, it's fun to see how well they work (or don't). :D

I thought about using last year's end of season ratings to begin the year, but that method fails to take into account the effectiveness of off-season recruiting.

So in this method, every team starts witn a rating of 1000.

The big problem with this method is what I call the "Ball State" problem. That's where a weak team has a great record against other weak teams.

The flipside is a strong team that plays a strong schedule and does well, but doesn't win all their games. They may have a rating that is lower than a Ball State team, but be much better than Ball State..

Since all teams start with 1000, a team that wins a lot of games sees their ratings go up -- even a weak team. Then when the weak team with the good rating plays a strong team with a lower rating, the stronger team will win, even though they have a lower rating.

And even after the game, the stronger team may have a lower rating than the weak team they just beat -- like Buffalo.

I didn't see the Ball St / Buffalo game. Maybe Ball St just had a bad game?

My point is, until these teams get to around 15 or 20 games, these ratings are suspect. However, you might find a couple of gems that haven't been discovered by the public yet. It happens every week. If you see a team on the list with about a 20 point advantage and is the underdog, it may be a good bet.

[Bubbles]

Look out for Michigan. They beat two top-5 teams early on this season (UCLA on a neutral floor, Duke at home), and could be rounding into form.

[rrbauer]

I didn't see the Ball St / Buffalo game. Maybe Ball St just had a bad game?



BS had 4 turnovers, two gave Buffalo immediate scores. BS QB lost focus, was sulking on the sideline and basically gave up. I'm sure that a lot of pro scouts will be looking elsewhere for QB talent after seeing that performance. At the same time, Buffalo performed well. Turner Gill has worked wonders with that program.

[highnote]

BS had 4 turnovers, two gave Buffalo immediate scores. BS QB lost focus, was sulking on the sideline and basically gave up. I'm sure that a lot of pro scouts will be looking elsewhere for QB talent after seeing that performance. At the same time, Buffalo performed well. Turner Gill has worked wonders with that program.

Sounds like BS quarterback had the same reaction as Belicheck to losing a perfect season.

Champions overcome adversity. I always liked Elway because he never gave up.

[cj's dad]

Sounds like BS quarterback had the same reaction as Belicheck to losing a perfect season.

Champions overcome adversity. I always liked Elway because he never gave up.

Quite possibly the toughest QB in my time.

[Robert Fischer]

North Carolina -didn't think much of Hansborough with my first impressions.
I really have to give him a second chance and see how he has developed.

[cj's dad]

North Carolina -didn't think much of Hansborough with my first impressions.
I really have to give him a second chance and see how he has developed.

I see him play often- quite the gutty, intense player. I am a UM fan so I don't much care for UNC and their (much like the Dukies) arrogant fans but I have to admit that Hansborough is quite a player. I believe he will be the #1 NBA pick.

As far as being developed, he was ready IMO for the NBA last year.

[highnote]

NC still on top through Dec 14.


North Carolina 1051.9
Clemson 1040.7
BYU 1039
Gonzaga 1035.1
Oklahoma 1033.6
Pittsburgh 1031
Connecticut 1029.3
West Virginia 1028.8
Arizona St. 1025.3
Duke 1025
Villanova 1024.6
Illinois St. 1024.5
Missouri 1024.5
Wake Forest 1023.6
Minnesota 1023.4
Rhode Island 1023.4
Charleston 1023.3
Butler 1022.9
Jacksonville St. 1022.1
Ohio St. 1022.1
Illinois 1021.8
Baylor 1021.7
Niagara 1021.4
Syracuse 1021.2
Xavier 1020.4
Florida St. 1020.2
St. Mary's 1019.8
Northwestern 1019.6
Georgetown 1019.4
Ill. Chicago 1018.6
LSU 1018.5
Penn St. 1018.3
Marquette 1018.2
Dayton 1017.8
South Carolina 1017.5
Tennessee 1017.5
Houston 1017
Davidson 1015.9
E. Tennessee St. 1015.9
Texas A&M 1015.5
Eastern Kentucky 1015.4
East Carolina 1015
Miami (OH) 1014
UNLV 1012
Evansville 1011.9
Kansas 1011.4
George Mason 1011.2
California 1011.1
Stanford 1011.1
San Diego St. 1011
Louisville 1010.9
Michigan 1010.9
Arkansas St. 1010.7
Creighton 1010.6
Kansas St. 1010.4
Boston Coll. 1009.9
Nicholls St. 1009.8
Arizona 1009.5
N.C. State 1009.4
Virginia Military 1009.3
Florida 1009.2
Albany 1008.9
Texas 1008.9
Utah St. 1008.4
Tennessee Tech 1008.1
Akron 1008
New Mexico 1007.5
Western Carolina 1007.5
Iowa 1007.3
Rutgers 1007.3
Miami (FL) 1007.1
Portland St. 1007.1
Arkansas 1006.6
Hofstra 1006.2
Cleveland St. 1005.9
Notre Dame 1005.9
St. John's 1005.9
Wisconsin 1005.7
Memphis 1005.6
USC 1005.5
UAB 1005.3
UCLA 1005.1
Seton Hall 1004.8
Belmont 1004.5
Navy 1004.2
Oakwood 1003.8
Rider 1003.7
Vermont 1003.5
Manhattan 1003.2
Murray St. 1003.2
Oklahoma St. 1003.2
Nebraska 1002.7
St. Bonaventure 1002.4
McNeese St. 1002.2
Georgia Tech 1002
Kentucky 1001.8
Wis. Green Bay 1001.7
Wyoming 1001.6
Washington St. 1001.4
Austin Peay 1001.3
Iowa St. 1000.7
Maryland 1000.6
Texas Tech 1000.5
VCU 1000.4
Liberty 1000.2
Purdue 1000.2
Air Force 1000.1
Mississippi St. 1000.1
Stony Brook 1000.1
AR Little Rock 999.7
Providence 999.7
Drake 999.6
Pacific 999.5
UC Riverside 999.1
North Dakota St. 998.8
San Francisco 998.7
Virginia Tech 998.7
Stephen F. Austin 998.5
Duquesne 998.2
Charleston S. 997.9
North Texas 997.2
Washington 997.1
Virginia 996.8
Michigan St. 996.1
Towson 996.1
Cincinnati 995.9
Stetson 995.9
Texas Wesleyan 995.8
Wagner 995.7
Binghamton 995.2
Western St. 994.7
Missouri St. 994.6
Northeastern 994.6
Boston U. 994.3
Maine 994.1
Santa Clara 994.1
Buffalo 994
CSU Monterey Bay 993.8
Lehigh 993.8
Texas St. 993.8
Bowling Green 993.7
N.C. A&T 993.7
Geo. Washington 993.5
Montana 993.3
Tuskegee 993.1
Alabama 992.5
Great Falls 992.1
William Carey 992.1
Hampton 992
Middle Tenn. St. 992
Mississippi 992
Portland 992
Lamar 991.7
San Jose St. 991.4
Wofford 991.4
Temple 991.3
Utah 991.3
Auburn 991
Long Beach St. 990.8
SMU 990.7
Arkansas-Monticello 990.6
Colorado 990.5
Fairfield 990.3
Hardin-Simmons 990.3
Marshall 990
Montana St. 989.8
Tougaloo 989.8
Johnson & Wales (FL) 989.2
Eastern Wash. 989.1
Loyola (LA) 989.1
TX Arlington 989.1
Oakland 989
Citadel 988.8
St. Joseph's 988.7
Mercer 988.6
Richmond 988.5
John Brown 988.4
Kennesaw St. 988.3
Mount St. Mary's 988.2
Hawaii 988.1
LSU-Shreveport 987.9
Old Dominion 987.8
New Mexico St. 987.4
Northwestern St. 987.3
Allen 987.2
Central Baptist 987.1
Montana-Western 987.1
Vanderbilt 987.1
Vanguard 987.1
IPFW 987
West. Kentucky 986.8
Nevada 986.7
South Dakota St. 986.7
Texas-Tyler 986.7
Haskell 986.6
Northern Arizona 986.6
Ball St. 986.5
Carver Bible 986.5
Iona 986.5
UCF 986.5
Manchester 986.4
S. Carolina St. 986.3
Webber 986.2
IUPUI 986
Le Moyne 985.9
Long Island 985.9
LA Lafayette 985.4
North Alabama 985.4
Siena 985.3
Boise St. 985.2
Central Conn. St. 985.2
UC San Diego 984.8
UTSA 984.6
Alaska-Anchorage 984.5
Coker 984.5
Idaho 984.4
Prairie View A&M 984.4
Tulsa 984.4
Lipscomb 984.1
New Hampshire 984.1
James Madison 984
Colorado-Colorado Springs 983.7
Cal Poly 983.6
Reinhardt 983.6
South Florida 983.6
Southern Miss 983.3
Presbyterian 983.1
Rochester (MI) 983
SE Louisiana 983
La Salle 982.9
Wis. Milwaukee 982.5
TCU 982.4
Utah Valley St. 982.4
Wichita St. 982.4
DePaul 982.2
Morgan St. 982.2
St. Francis (NY) 982.2
Georgia 982.1
Union College 982.1
Atlanta Christian 981.8
Hope International 981.7
Northern Iowa 981.5
William & Mary 981.5
Louisiana Tech 981.2
Appalachian St. 981
Drexel 980.7
Oregon St. 980.6
Suffolk 980.6
South Alabama 980.5
Texas A&M C.C. 980.5
American 980.4
San Diego 980.1
Denver 979.9
Jacksonville 979.7
Campbell 979.6
UC Davis 979.6
UCSB 979.4
Oregon 979.3
Quinnipiac 979.3
Cornell 979.1
CSU Fullerton 979.1
Saint Louis 978.9
Sam Houston St. 978.8
Loyola Chicago 978.4
Paul Quinn 978.4
Covenant 977.7
Elon 977.3
Bradley 977
Florida Atlantic 977
North Dakota 977
Harvard 976.8
Cent. Michigan 976.5
Southern Utah 976.4
Dartmouth 976.3
Savannah St. 976
Tulane 975.5
Weber St. 975.2
Southern-New Orleans 974.8
Tennessee Temple 974.8
Robert Morris 974.6
Alabama A&M 974.5
Eastern Illinois 974.5
W. Michigan 974.5
Central Arkansas 974.4
Marygrove College 974.4
Huston-Tillotson 974.3
Limestone 974.1
Massachusetts 973.8
Georgia St. 973.6
Coastal Carolina 973.1
Fresno St. 973.1
Alabama St. 972.9
Northern Colorado 972.8
St. Peter's 972.8
Yale 972.8
IU-SouthBend 972.4
Columbia 972.2
Sacred Heart 972.2
Delaware 972
Bethune-Cookman 971.8
N.C. Asheville 971.8
Southern Ill. 971.8
Kent St. 971.4
CSU Northridge 971.3
Ohio 971.2
Valparaiso 971.1
Texas A&M Intl 970.8
Mo. Kansas City 970.5
Brown 970.1
Longwood 970
Princeton 970
Florida Intl. 969.9
Samford 969.8
New Orleans 968.8
Tennessee St. 968.8
Gardner-Webb 968.7
Southern Virginia 968.7
Western Ill. 968.5
Oakland City 967.9
Wright St. 967.6
Oral Roberts 967.4
East. Michigan 967.2
Texas Pan Amer. 967.2
Mayville St. 967
Texas Southern 967
Charlotte 966.7
Indiana 966.7
Rice 966.6
Youngstown St. 966.5
Chicago St. 966.1
Northern Illinois 966.1
Bucknell 966
Georgia Southern 966
UTEP 964.6
MD Eastern Shore 964.4
Montreat 964.4
Canisius 964.2
Louisiana College 964.2
Morehead St. 964.2
Toccoa Falls 964.2
Colgate 964
High Point 963.9
Radford 963.6
Idaho St. 963.4
Army 963.2
Colorado St. 963.2
Marist 963
Detroit 962.4
Toledo 962.4
St. Francis (PA) 962.2
CSU Bakersfield 961.8
Tenn-Martin 961.4
Lyon 961.2
Jackson St. 961.1
Winthrop 961.1
Coppin St. 960.2
Sacramento St. 959.8
Furman 959.5
Chattanooga 959
LA Monroe 957.7
Fla Gulf Coast 957.5
Howard 955.6
Centenary 955.5
Holy Cross 955.5
Hartford 955
Virginia-Wise 955
Pennsylvania 954.9
Troy 954.8
Loyola (MD) 954.7
Norfolk St. 954.6
Grambling St. 952
N.C. Greensboro 952
South Carolina Upstate 952
UC Irvine 952
Chaminade 951.9
Southern 951.9
SE Missouri St. 951.7
AR Pine Bluff 950.1
Lafayette 948.5
Indiana St. 947.6
Delaware St. 944
Winston-Salem 943
Florida A&M 942.3
Loyola Marymount 942.2
Fordham 940.8
Alcorn St. 939.8
Monmouth 934.6
Fair. Dickinson 931.3
Houston Baptist 931.1
Pepperdine 931
N.C. Wilmington 929.8
North Florida 923.3
Miss. Valley St. 921.8
N.J.I.T. 920.8
N.C. Central 919.1

[highnote]

My computer ratings through December 21.

North Carolina 1053.5
Clemson 1047.1
Connecticut 1037.6
Pittsburgh 1037.6
Oklahoma 1035
BYU 1034.7
Illinois St. 1028.8
West Virginia 1028.8
Gonzaga 1028.4
Missouri 1028.2
Duke 1027.3
Arizona St. 1027.2
Wake Forest 1027
Minnesota 1025.1
Charleston 1025
Ohio St. 1024.8
Villanova 1024.6
Niagara 1024.2
Butler 1024
Illinois 1023.5
Baylor 1022.6
St. Mary's 1022.6
LSU 1021.2
Georgetown 1020.8
Northwestern 1020.8
Syracuse 1020.4
Tennessee 1020.4
Xavier 1020.4
Penn St. 1019.2
Dayton 1019
South Carolina 1018.4
Rhode Island 1017.9
Texas A&M 1017.4
Houston 1017
Michigan 1017
E. Tennessee St. 1016.8
Ill. Chicago 1016.2
Florida St. 1015.2
Utah St. 1015.2
Cleveland St. 1014.7
N.C. State 1014.6
Miami (OH) 1014
UNLV 1014
Marquette 1013.9
Kansas 1013.4
California 1012.8
Stanford 1012.6
Arkansas 1012.4
George Mason 1012.3
Virginia Military 1012.2
Kansas St. 1011.7
UAB 1011.6
Boston Coll. 1011.5
Creighton 1011.4
Albany 1011.2
San Diego St. 1011
Texas 1010.3
Arizona 1009.5
Oklahoma St. 1009.4
Florida 1009.2
Rutgers 1008.9
Eastern Kentucky 1008.6
New Mexico 1008.3
Nicholls St. 1008.3
Evansville 1008.1
Manhattan 1008.1
Washington St. 1008.1
Louisville 1008
East Carolina 1007.6
Notre Dame 1007.6
Vermont 1007.4
Georgia Tech 1007.3
Virginia Tech 1007.1
St. Bonaventure 1007
Arkansas St. 1006.5
Belmont 1006.4
UCLA 1006.3
USC 1006.2
Nebraska 1006.1
Wisconsin 1005.7
Wyoming 1005.7
Cincinnati 1005.5
Davidson 1005.2
Portland St. 1005.2
North Texas 1004.9
Purdue 1004.9
Seton Hall 1004.8
Stephen F. Austin 1004.7
Kentucky 1004.6
Oakwood 1003.8
Drake 1003.5
Iowa St. 1003.1
UC Riverside 1003.1
North Dakota St. 1003
Akron 1002.9
Tennessee Tech 1002.4
Jacksonville St. 1002.2
Old Dominion 1002
Pacific 1001.2
Maryland 1000.6
Air Force 1000.1
Virginia 999.7
Memphis 998.9
San Francisco 998.7
Wis. Green Bay 998.6
Michigan St. 998.1
VCU 998
Auburn 997.9
Iowa 997.8
Montana St. 997.7
Wagner 997.4
Washington 997.1
AR Little Rock 997
Navy 996.8
Lehigh 996.7
Providence 996.7
Liberty 996.5
Lamar 996.3
Missouri St. 996.3
Towson 996.1
Buffalo 996
Geo. Washington 995.8
Texas Wesleyan 995.8
Western Carolina 995.5
Miami (FL) 994.9
Murray St. 994.9
Hofstra 994.8
Northeastern 994.6
Marshall 994.4
Alabama 994
Colorado 993.9
West. Kentucky 993.9
CSU Monterey Bay 993.8
Rider 993.8
McNeese St. 993.4
Southern Miss 993.3
Mississippi St. 992.9
St. John's 992.9
Northwestern St. 992.5
Stetson 992.4
Wofford 992.4
Great Falls 992.1
Hampton 992
Auburn-Montgomery 991.6
San Jose St. 991.4
Utah 991.3
Tulsa 990.9
Arkansas-Monticello 990.6
Stony Brook 990.6
Vanderbilt 990.5
Fairfield 990.3
Hardin-Simmons 990.3
New Mexico St. 990.3
Palm Beach Atlantic 990.1
Tougaloo 989.8
Hawaii 989.7
SE Louisiana 989.6
James Madison 989.5
Long Island 989.2
Loyola (LA) 989.1
Bowling Green 988.9
St. Joseph's 988.7
John Brown 988.4
Boise St. 988.3
Ball St. 988.2
Mississippi 988.2
LSU-Shreveport 987.9
Texas Tech 987.9
Texas St. 987.7
Allen 987.2
Boston U. 987.2
Central Conn. St. 987.2
Central Baptist 987.1
DePaul 987.1
Montana-Western 987.1
Vanguard 987.1
Binghamton 987
Oregon St. 986.8
Robert Morris 986.8
Texas-Tyler 986.7
Haskell 986.6
Carver Bible 986.5
UCF 986.5
Manchester 986.4
TX Arlington 986.3
Cal Poly 986.2
IUPUI 986
Le Moyne 985.9
Temple 985.7
Northern Iowa 985.5
North Alabama 985.4
San Diego 985.3
Millsaps 985.1
Wis. Milwaukee 985
Gardner-Webb 984.9
UC San Diego 984.8
Nevada 984.7
Elon 984.6
Tenn. Wesleyan 984.6
Alaska-Anchorage 984.5
Coker 984.5
Denver 984.3
Lees-McRae 984.3
Middle Tenn. St. 984.1
New Hampshire 984.1
Georgia 984
Western St. 983.8
Colorado-Colorado Springs 983.7
Mount St. Mary's 983.7
Santa Clara 983.7
Reinhardt 983.6
Anderson (SC) 983.5
Saint Louis 983.4
Loyola Chicago 983.1
Kennesaw St. 983
Oakland 983
Rochester (MI) 983
Sam Houston St. 982.8
American 982.5
TCU 982.4
Utah Valley St. 982.4
Wichita St. 982.4
Morgan St. 982.2
St. Francis (NY) 982.2
Tenn-Martin 982.2
Northern Arizona 982.1
Cornell 982
Presbyterian 982
Atlanta Christian 981.8
Campbell 981.7
Hope International 981.7
Tulane 981.7
Charleston S. 981.6
Portland 981.6
Duquesne 981.5
William & Mary 981.5
Siena 981.4
Richmond 981.2
La Salle 981
Maine 981
Harvard 980.9
Suffolk 980.6
Savannah St. 980.3
Central Arkansas 980
UTSA 979.8
William Carey 979.7
South Dakota St. 979.6
Massachusetts 979.5
Southern Ill. 979.3
Eastern Wash. 979.2
CSU Fullerton 979.1
SMU 979
Montana 978.7
S. Carolina St. 978.6
Paul Quinn 978.4
W. Michigan 978.2
Long Beach St. 978.1
South Alabama 978.1
Mercer 977.9
Idaho 977.8
Coastal Carolina 977.7
Covenant 977.7
Fresno St. 977.6
Weber St. 977.6
Lipscomb 977.5
IPFW 977.2
Delaware 977.1
Johnson & Wales (FL) 976.5
Longwood 976.1
Quinnipiac 976
N.C. A&T 975.8
Tuskegee 975.8
Jacksonville 975.6
Texas A&M C.C. 975.4
Kent St. 975.3
Oregon 975.3
Wright St. 975.1
Southern-New Orleans 974.8
Tennessee Temple 974.8
Eastern Illinois 974.5
Marygrove College 974.4
Limestone 974.1
Columbia 973.8
CSU Northridge 973.7
Mo. Kansas City 973.6
UCSB 973.5
Alabama St. 973.4
Iona 973.2
South Florida 972.9
Yale 972.8
Appalachian St. 972.7
IU-SouthBend 972.4
UC Davis 972.2
Virginia Intermont 971.6
UTEP 971.1
Valparaiso 971.1
Webber 970.9
Texas A&M Intl 970.8
Austin Peay 970.6
Charlotte 970.4
Bradley 970.3
Northern Colorado 970.1
Dartmouth 969.9
LA Lafayette 969.8
Texas Pan Amer. 969.4
Southern Utah 969
Drexel 968.7
Southern Virginia 968.7
Bucknell 968.5
New Orleans 968
Citadel 967.9
Oakland City 967.9
Union College 967.6
Sacred Heart 967.4
Ohio 967.3
Chicago St. 967.1
Mayville St. 967
Indiana 966.7
Louisiana Tech 966.6
Georgia Southern 966
Alabama A&M 965.8
Brown 965
North Dakota 964.7
MD Eastern Shore 964.4
Montreat 964.4
Princeton 964.3
Louisiana College 964.2
Tennessee St. 964.2
Toccoa Falls 964.2
Colgate 964
Western Ill. 964
Florida Atlantic 963.8
Canisius 963.2
Samford 963.2
Bethune-Cookman 962.4
Toledo 962.4
Loyola (MD) 961.6
Detroit 961.4
Rice 961.4
Huston-Tillotson 961.3
Lyon 961.2
Prairie View A&M 961.1
Cent. Michigan 960.9
Coppin St. 960.2
Radford 960
St. Peter's 960
Fla Gulf Coast 959.8
Sacramento St. 959.8
East. Michigan 959.6
Oral Roberts 959.4
St. Francis (PA) 959
Chattanooga 958.8
Marist 958.5
Colorado St. 957.9
N.C. Asheville 957.8
Troy 957.7
Winthrop 957
Florida Intl. 956.8
High Point 956.7
Army 956.6
Jackson St. 956.6
Idaho St. 955.9
Youngstown St. 955.8
Holy Cross 955.5
Hartford 955
Virginia-Wise 955
Pennsylvania 954.9
Morehead St. 953.8
SE Missouri St. 953.7
Georgia St. 953
LA Monroe 952.5
Indiana St. 952.3
Chaminade 951.9
Centenary 950.9
Texas Southern 950.5
Winston-Salem 948.7
CSU Bakersfield 948.3
AR Pine Bluff 947.7
Furman 947.1
Grambling St. 945.9
Howard 945.5
Northern Illinois 944.2
N.C. Greensboro 942.5
Fordham 940.8
Florida A&M 940.2
South Carolina Upstate 938.3
UC Irvine 938.3
Delaware St. 938
North Florida 937.5
Southern 935.5
Lafayette 934.8
Monmouth 934.4
Fair. Dickinson 931.3
Norfolk St. 929.6
N.C. Wilmington 927.8
Alcorn St. 927.2
Houston Baptist 922.6
N.J.I.T. 917.7
Loyola Marymount 916.3
Miss. Valley St. 913.7
Pepperdine 911.7
N.C. Central 904.6

[cj's dad]

Beyond the top 15 -20 they are truly laughable

[highnote]

It takes about 15 or 20 games until the system starts to really work -- 30 games is even better.

Last year the system correctly picked Kansas.

What is surprising to me is that it does a pretty good job of picking the top teams even after only 10 games.

[Figman]

They sure are laughable!!!!
"Albany, N.Y." 30 points OVER Siena. Siena beat them for the fourth time and year in a row a couple of weeks ago.

[cj's dad]

Proving that I have way too much free time on my hands, I decided to look at "Oakwood University" which is rated 10 spots above the Univ. of Maryland in the ratings:

U of Md. 8 wins vs. 2 losses; points rating 1000.6
The losses were against Georgetown and Gonzaga - 2 pretty fair teams; both have been in and out of the top 10 this year.
2 of the 8 wins came against Michigan and Michigan State.

Oakwood Univ. has a record of 9 wins vs. 6 losses; points rating 1003.8

Oakwood has lost to the following college powerhouses:
Martin Methodist twice- Concordia College & Belhaven College. They are however on a roll recently with consecutive wins against Tennessee Temple and Southeast Bible College. That must be the reason for being rated above UM.

What was I thinking?

[highnote]

I used the Dec 21st ratings and applied them to all the Dec 22nd games. You can verify this for yourself below and by checking my post of the Dec 21st ratings.

The ratings picked the winners in 60 out of 76 Monday night games for a 60-16 record.

That ain't to bad for doing zero handicapping.

The ratings work best when the two teams are playing within their own conferences. I admit there are cases where a small school will have a great rating and a big college will have a bad rating. The small college will probably lose. However, if that small college with a high rating is playing against another small college, I'll bet the higher rated team every time.

I stand by the usefulness of these ratings. How else could you sit and handicap 76 games in one night without some sort of computer doing a lot of the work?

These ratings are not really meant to rank every team in the country in order. They're meant to tell you who is the better team when the schools are in the same division so that you can bet on the better team.

If a small school is playing a large school, then you need to use a little common sense. But even without using common sense and betting blindly, you would have done OK Monday night. This is pretty typical of my experiences last year.

By the way, I tallied these manually. So if you see an error please let me know.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2008-12-22

"Texas Southern","950.5"
"Air Force","1000.1" W
""
"Chattanooga","958.8"
"Alabama","994" W
""
"Alabama St.","973.4"
"Auburn","997.9" W
""
"Belmont","1006.4" W
"Austin Peay","970.6"
""
"Hartford","955"
"Baylor", "1022.6" W

"Towson","996.1" L
"Bowling Green","988.9"
""
"Montana St.","997.7" L
"CSU Fullerton","979.1"
""
"Colgate","964"
"California","1012.8" W
""
"AR Pine Bluff","947.7"
"Cincinnati","1005.5" W
""
"Fresno St.","977.6"
"Creighton","1011.4" W
""
"Grambling St.","945.9"
"Denver","984.3" W
""
"N.C. Central","904.6"
"Duquesne","981.5" W
""
"Wake Forest","1027" W
"East Carolina","1007.6"
""
"Chicago St.","967.1"
"Eastern Illinois","974.5" L
""
"Indiana-Northwest", "800=no rating"
"Eastern Kentucky","1008.6" L
""
"Oakland","983" W
"East. Michigan","959.6"
""
"Evergreen","800=no rating"
"Eastern Wash.","979.2" W
""
"Lipscomb","977.5"
"Elon","984.6" W
""
"Georgia Southern","966"
"Florida","1009.2" W
""
"Tulane","981.7"
"George Mason","1012.3" W
""
"Texas A&M C.C.","975.4"
"Georgia","984" L
""
"Wis. Green Bay","998.6" W
"Houston Baptist","922.6"
""
"Northeastern","994.6" W
"Indiana","966.7"
""
"Bethune-Cookman","962.4"
"Jacksonville","975.6" L
""
"Seton Hall","1004.8" L
"James Madison","989.5"
""
"Tennessee St.","964.2"
"Kentucky","1004.6" W
""
"Temple","985.7" L
"Long Beach St.","978.1"
""
"TCU","982.4" L
"Louisiana Tech","966.6"
""
"SIU-Edwardsville","800=no rating"
"Loyola Chicago","983.1" W
""
"Mercer","977.9" W
"Loyola Marymount","916.3"
""
"McNeese St.","993.4"
"LSU","1021.2" W
""
"Long Island","989.2"
"Manhattan","1008.1" W
""
"American","982.5"
"Maryland","1000.6" W
""
"Drexel","968.7"
"Memphis","998.9" W

"Fla Gulf Coast","959.8"
"Michigan","1017" W
""
"Florida A&M","940.2"
"Mississippi","988.2" W
""
"Middle Tenn. St.","984.1"
"Missouri St.","996.3" L
""
"Ky Christian","800"
"Morehead St.","953.8" W
""
"North Texas","1004.9" L
"New Orleans","968"
""
"Mississippi St.","992.9"
"Nicholls St.","1008.3" L
""
"UC Irvine","938.3" W
"Norfolk St.","929.6"
""

"Marquette","1013.9"
"N.C. State","1014.6" L
""
"Northern Arizona","982.1"
"North Dakota St.","1003" W
""
"Liberty","996.5" W
"Northern Colorado","970.1"
""
"Southern-New Orleans","974.8"
"Northwestern St.","992.5" W
""
"Savannah St.","980.3"
"Notre Dame","1007.6" W
"
"Holy Cross","955.5"
"Ohio","967.3" W
""
"N.C. Asheville","957.8"
"Ohio St.","1024.8" W
"
"MD Eastern Shore","964.4"
"Old Dominion","1002" W
""
"South Florida","972.9" L
"Oral Roberts","959.4"
""
"Howard","945.5"
"Portland","981.6" W
""
"Providence","996.7" W
"Bryant","800=no rating"
""
"IPFW","977.2"
"Purdue","1004.9" W
"
"Oklahoma","1035" W
"Rice","961.4"
""
"Bucknell","968.5"
"Richmond","981.2" W
""
"DePaul","987.1" W
"Saint Louis","983.4"
""
"Boise St.","988.3" W
"San Diego","985.3"
""
"CSU Northridge","973.7"
"San Diego St.","1011" W
""
"San Francisco","998.7" L
"San Jose St.","991.4"
""
"W. Michigan","978.2"
"Southern Ill.","979.3" W
""
"Spring Hill","800=no rating"
"Southern Miss","993.3" W
""
"South Carolina Upstate","938.3" W
"Southern","935.5"
""
"Albany","1011.2" W
"St. Francis (NY)","982.2"
""
"Cornell","982"
"St. Joseph's","988.7" W
""
"Coppin St.","960.2"
"Syracuse","1020.4" W
"
"N.C. Wilmington","927.8"
"Troy","957.7" W
""
"Florida Atlantic","963.8"
"UAB","1011.6" W
""
"Valparaiso","971.1"
"UCF","986.5" W
""
"UTSA","979.8" W
"Mo. Kansas City","973.6"
""
"Georgia Tech","1007.3"
"USC","1006.2" L
""
"Utah","991.3"
"Utah St.","1015.2" W
""
"Furman","947.1"
"Vanderbilt","990.5" W
""
"Navy","996.8"
"Viillanova","1024.6" W
"
"Texas Pan Amer.","969.4"
"Weber St.","977.6" W
""
"North Dakota","964.7"
"Wichita St.","982.4" W
""
"Charleston","1025" W
"Winthrop","957"
""
"Murray St.","994.9" L
"Wright St.","975.1"
""

[cj's dad]

I misunderstood the purpose of your rankings- makes sense now.

[BetHorses!]

These ratings are not really meant to rank every team in the country in order. They're meant to tell you who is the better team when the schools are in the same division so that you can bet on the better team.




How many points better? The true way to bet is to attempt to make a better line on the game. Can you do this with your numbers with teams from the same division? If you have NC ranked better than Duke are you laying 8 points?

[highnote]

How many points better? The true way to bet is to attempt to make a better line on the game. Can you do this with your numbers with teams from the same division? If you have NC ranked better than Duke are you laying 8 points?


There is a probably a way to generate a line, but I don't bet the spreads. I only bet straight up with an oddsline. Check out the Matchbook.com website. They have point spreads or outright winner bets.

So I might bet NC to win at .6-1 or better. I only bet the higher ranked team to win and I look at the odds. My favorite bet is when I have a team ranked higher, yet they are the underdog. Another bet I like is when the higher ranked team is greater than even money.