Here come the Bowls

[rrbauer]

EagleBank Bowl Dec. 20
11 a.m. Washington, D.C.
ACC vs. Navy ESPN

New Mexico Dec. 20
2:30 p.m. Albuquerque, NM
Mountain West vs. Fresno State ESPN

St. Petersburg Dec. 20
4:30 p.m. St. Petersburg, FL
Big East vs. C-USA ESPN2

Pioneer Las Vegas Dec. 20
8 p.m. Las Vegas, NV
Mountain West vs. Pac-10 ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans Dec. 21
8:15 p.m. New Orleans, LA
C-USA vs. Sun Belt ESPN

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Dec. 23
8 p.m. San Diego, CA
Mountain West vs. Pac-10 ESPN

Sheraton Hawaii Dec. 24
8 p.m. Honolulu, HI
WAC vs. Pac-10 ESPN

Motor City Dec. 26
7:30 p.m. Detroit, MI
MAC vs. Big Ten ESPN

Meineke Car Care Dec. 27
1 p.m. Charlotte, NC
ACC vs. West Virginia ESPN

Champs Sports Dec. 27
4:30 p.m. Orlando, FL
ACC vs. Big Ten ESPN

Emerald Dec. 27
8 p.m. San Francisco, CA
Pac-10 vs. ACC ESPN

Independence Dec. 28
8:15 p.m. Shreveport, LA
SEC vs. Big 12 ESPN

Papajohns.com Dec. 29
3 p.m. Birmingham, AL
SEC vs. Big East ESPN

Valero Alamo Dec. 29
8 p.m. San Antonio, TX
Big Ten vs. Big 12 ESPN

Roady's Humanitarian Dec. 30
4:30 p.m. Boise, ID
WAC vs. ACC ESPN

Texas Dec. 30
8 p.m. Houston, TX
Big 12 vs. C-USA NFL

Pacific Life Holiday Dec. 30
8 p.m. San Diego, CA
Pac-10 vs. Big 12 ESPN

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Dec. 31
12 p.m. Fort Worth, TX
Mountain West vs. C-USA ESPN

Brut Sun Dec. 31
2 p.m. El Paso, TX
Pac-10 vs. Pittsburgh CBS

Gaylord Hotels Music City Dec. 31
3:30 p.m. Nashville, TN
SEC vs. ACC ESPN

Insight Dec. 31
5:30 p.m. Tempe, Ariz.
Kansas vs. Big Ten NFL

Chick-fil-A Dec. 31
7:30 p.m. Atlanta, GA
SEC vs. Georgia Tech ESPN

Outback Jan. 1
11 a.m. Tampa, FL
Big Ten vs. SEC ESPN

Capital One Jan. 1
1 p.m. Orlando, FL
SEC vs. Big Ten ABC

Konica Minolta Gator Jan. 1
1 p.m. Jacksonville, FL
ACC vs. Big 12/Big East/Notre Dame CBS

Rose presented by Citi Jan. 1
4:30 p.m. Pasadena, CA
BCS vs. BCS ABC

FedEx Orange Jan. 1
8:30 p.m. Miami, FL
Virginia Tech vs. BCS FOX

AT&T Cotton Jan. 2
2 p.m. Dallas, TX
Big 12 vs. SEC FOX

AutoZone Liberty Jan. 2
5 p.m. Memphis, TN
East Carolina vs. SEC ESPN

Allstate Sugar Jan. 2
8 p.m. New Orleans, LA
BCS vs. BCS FOX

International Jan. 3
12 p.m. Toronto, Canada
Big East vs. MAC ESPN2

Tostitos Fiesta Jan. 5
8 p.m. Glendale, AZ
BCS vs. BCS FOX

GMAC Jan. 6
8 p.m. Mobile, AL
C-USA vs. MAC ESPN

FedEx BCS National Championship Jan. 8
8 p.m. Miami, FL
BCS No. 1 vs. BCS No. 2 FOX


I will update in a couple days when the pairings are complete

[rrbauer]

2008-09 College Football Bowl Schedule

EagleBank Bowl Dec. 20
11 a.m. Washington, D.C.
Wake Forest vs. Navy ESPN

New Mexico Dec. 20
2:30 p.m. Albuquerque, NM
Colorado State vs. Fresno State ESPN

St. Petersburg Dec. 20
4:30 p.m. St. Petersburg, FL
South Florida vs. Memphis ESPN2

Pioneer Las Vegas Dec. 20
8 p.m. Las Vegas, NV
BYU vs. Arizona ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans Dec. 21
8:15 p.m. New Orleans, LA
Troy vs. Southern Miss ESPN

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Dec. 23
8 p.m. San Diego, CA
TCU vs. Boise State ESPN

Sheraton Hawaii Dec. 24
8 p.m. Honolulu, HI
Hawaii vs. Notre Dame ESPN

Motor City Dec. 26
7:30 p.m. Detroit, MI
Central Michigan vs. Florida Atlantic ESPN

Meineke Car Care Dec. 27
1 p.m. Charlotte, NC
North Carolina vs. West Virginia ESPN

Champs Sports Dec. 27
4:30 p.m. Orlando, FL
Florida State vs. Wisconsin ESPN

Emerald Dec. 27
8 p.m. San Francisco, CA
California vs. Miami (Fla.) ESPN

Independence Dec. 28
8:15 p.m. Shreveport, LA
Louisiana Tech vs. Northern Illinois ESPN

Papajohns.com Dec. 29
3 p.m. Birmingham, AL
Rutgers vs. N.C. State ESPN

Valero Alamo Dec. 29
8 p.m. San Antonio, TX
Northwestern vs. Missouri ESPN

Roady's Humanitarian Dec. 30
4:30 p.m. Boise, ID
Maryland vs. Nevada ESPN

Texas Dec. 30
8 p.m. Houston, TX
Rice vs. Western Michigan NFL

Pacific Life Holiday Dec. 30
8 p.m. San Diego, CA
Oregon vs. Oklahoma State ESPN

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Dec. 31
12 p.m. Fort Worth, TX
Air Force vs. Houston ESPN

Brut Sun Dec. 31
2 p.m. El Paso, TX
Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh CBS

Gaylord Hotels Music City Dec. 31
3:30 p.m. Nashville, TN
Vanderbilt vs. Boston College ESPN

Insight Dec. 31
5:30 p.m. Tempe, Ariz.
Kansas vs. Minnesota NFL

Chick-fil-A Dec. 31
7:30 p.m. Atlanta, GA
LSU vs. Georgia Tech ESPN

Outback Jan. 1
11 a.m. Tampa, FL
Iowa vs. South Carolina ESPN

Capital One Jan. 1
1 p.m. Orlando, FL
Georgia vs. Michigan State ABC

Konica Minolta Gator Jan. 1
1 p.m. Jacksonville, FL
Nebraska vs. Clemson CBS

Rose presented by Citi Jan. 1
4:30 p.m. Pasadena, CA
Penn State vs. USC ABC

FedEx Orange Jan. 1
8:30 p.m. Miami, FL
Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati FOX

AT&T Cotton Jan. 2
2 p.m. Dallas, TX
Texas Tech vs. Ole Miss FOX

AutoZone Liberty Jan. 2
5 p.m. Memphis, TN
East Carolina vs. Kentucky ESPN

Allstate Sugar Jan. 2
8 p.m. New Orleans, LA
Utah vs. Alabama FOX

International Jan. 3
12 p.m. Toronto, Canada
Connecticut vs. Buffalo ESPN2

Tostitos Fiesta Jan. 5
8 p.m. Glendale, AZ
Texas vs. Ohio State FOX

GMAC Jan. 6
8 p.m. Mobile, AL
Tulsa vs. Ball State ESPN

FedEx BCS National Championship Jan. 8
8 p.m. Miami, FL
Oklahoma vs. Florida FOX

[rrbauer]

Notre Dame in a Bowl?

Somebody up there likes Charlie!

[Pace Cap'n]

Notre Dame in a Bowl?

Somebody up there likes Charlie!

In Hawaii, no less.

Looks like Texas Tech was the one that got the shaft. Lose one game in the best conference in the country, and then you get to go to DALLAS???

[rastajenk]

One of my gripes, among many, with the BCS is the way they've strung out the games too long. This season they have a Thursday, Friday, and a Saturday to get them in....they could use Monday the fifth if they have to isolate the Grand Finale. Why wait a week 'til the Eighth? That's just dumb.

[nomadpat]

Agreed rastajenk.

I also don't like the fact there aren't as many games on Jan. 1 as there used to be.

[rrbauer]

In Hawaii, no less.

Looks like Texas Tech was the one that got the shaft. Lose one game in the best conference in the country, and then you get to go to DALLAS???

And, then maybe get beat there by a lesser-ranked school out of CJ's basement, Ole Miss! This will be a delight to watch, probably the 2nd most entertaining game after the big enchilada. Everybody knows about Graham Harrell but Jevan Snead (Miss QB) will be a household name after this game. Difference in the game IMO is Crabtree. Will the scoreboard hold the points?

[boomman]

Notre Dame in a Bowl?

Somebody up there likes Charlie!

Notre Dame in a Bowl Game? I thought that was some kind of joke! It sure as hell should be, as they have absolutely no business in a Bowl Game, ESPECIALLY in Hawaii as another poster noted! Nice vacation IRISH for accomplishing NOTHING!:mad:

Ridiculous!

Boomer

[OTM Al]

The bowl system has little to do with merit and championships and much to do with money. That's why a playoff just won't happen. Too much sponsorship money is lost. As for ND, they did win enough, barely, to qualify. Surprised they weren't given a better one as whichever they get is going to be a cash cow. Here's hoping their christmas trip to Hawaii is not a happy one.

[rrbauer]

Here's hoping their christmas trip to Hawaii is not a happy one.

You sound like about half of my family---the half that went to Purdue!

[OTM Al]

Black and (old) gold forever my friend. And until they will play Purdue in basketball they will forever be lame.

[rrbauer]

NCAA Football - Thu 1/1
Thu 1/1 251 Penn State +10 -105 OVER 45 -105
02:00 PM 252 USC -10 -105 UNDER 45 -105

Thu 1/1 253 Virginia Tech +1 -105 OVER 41 -105
05:15 PM 254 Cincinnati U -1 -105 UNDER 41 -105

NCAA Football - Fri 1/2
Fri 1/2 259 Utah +10 -101 OVER 45 -105
05:15 PM 260 Alabama -10 -109 UNDER 45 -105

NCAA Football - Mon 1/5
Mon 1/5 263 Ohio State +10 +100 OVER 54 +102
05:15 PM 264 Texas -10 -110 UNDER 54 -112

NCAA Football - Thu 1/8
Thu 1/8 267 Florida -3 -112 OVER 72.5 -105
05:15 PM 268 Oklahoma +3 +102 UNDER 72.5 -105

[cj's dad]

How in the world is Ok a +3 ???

[rrbauer]

How in the world is Ok a +3 ???

Hey Dennis, +3
The more you bet, the more you win!

In a word, the reason is Tebow!

[sammy the sage]

no DEFENSE...as has been stated BEFORE!

yep...and ole Miss is gonna PUNK Tex.T.... :lol:

[cj's dad]

Hey Dennis, +3
The more you bet, the more you win!

In a word, the reason is Tebow!

Seems to be a great guy, teammate, and is a hell of a player.
You're not selling Sam (Hiesman winner?) Bradford short are you ?

[pktruckdriver]

Forgive me but what is the following:



NCAA Football - Thu 1/8
Thu 1/8 267 Florida -3 -112 OVER 72.5 -105
05:15 PM 268 Oklahoma +3 +102 UNDER 72.5 -105



THE -112 OR -105


THE +102 OR -105

What do they mean, please.



How many SEC teams in Bowl games, vs. Big 12 teams in Bowl games, just curious? How many are heads up?


Great Job rrbauer :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
Thanks

Patrick

[pktruckdriver]

Mr Tebow has his Trophy already, and does not need another, even he said this, and asked not to be considered for it again, but who listens anymore.



Seems to be a great guy, teammate, and is a hell of a player.
You're not selling Sam (Hiesman winner?) Bradford short are you ?



This guy will get Tebow's leftover Hiesman Trophy, you only need 1 anyway.


Patrick

[cj's dad]

They are what are commonly referred to as "money lines".



Forgive me but what is the following:






THE -112 OR -105


THE +102 OR -105

What do they mean, please.



How many SEC teams in Bowl games, vs. Big 12 teams in Bowl games, just curious? How many are heads up?


Great Job rrbauer :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
Thanks

Patrick

[cj]

Anyone that thinks OU doesn't have a defense hasn't watched what they did to TT and Missouri. Tech/Ole Miss should tell us a lot, and I don't see any way Ole Miss is scoring with those guys.

Sure the defenses look good in the SEC. If Maryland got to play LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, etc, they'd be a top 10 defense.

[sammy the sage]

again...same thing as 06....Fla'.s offense was pedestrian...AT BEST...

oh...by the way...TexT....does not want to be in that game....ole Miss...DOES...

ATTITUDE often wins games as well....NOT flash/glitter! ;)

[sammy the sage]

ALSO...

on a DIFFERENT note...

Okie LEFT starter's in for 5 game 60 pt. run...while Fla. pulled theirs for 4th qtr.s in last 5/6 games...

Fla.was in 2 tough games...lostone (they had a shot)...and won one...which now they KNOW they CAN WIN a tOUGH game...

and OKIE...can they win a tough CLOSE game???

nah...they'll probably blow Fla. off the field :rolleyes:

[Pace Cap'n]

Forgive me but what is the following:






THE -112 OR -105


THE +102 OR -105

What do they mean, please.


If you like Florida, you will put up $112 to win $100.

If you like Oklahoma, you will put up $100 to win $102.

[rrbauer]

Seems to be a great guy, teammate, and is a hell of a player.
You're not selling Sam (Hiesman winner?) Bradford short are you ?

Nope. Bradford a great thrower and doesn't make many mistakes but he does not carry the team on his shoulders.

[rrbauer]

If you like Florida, you will put up $112 to win $100.

If you like Oklahoma, you will put up $100 to win $102.

However the point spread is still in play. When the spread is resting on a number such as 3 or 7 or 10, bookmakers will move the vig around as much as possible to try and keep their book balanced, before moving the point spread itself.

[cj]

Nope. Bradford a great thrower and doesn't make many mistakes but he does not carry the team on his shoulders.

I've watched pretty much every OU game, and they would be in deep trouble without him. He isn't good because of the system, he is flat out good.

[Pace Cap'n]

However the point spread is still in play. When the spread is resting on a number such as 3 or 7 or 10, bookmakers will move the vig around as much as possible to try and keep their book balanced, before moving the point spread itself.

The question was "what do the numbers mean?", not how do they relate to moving lines.

Two separate and distinct bets--the point spread, and the money-line. When you make a wager on one, it is in no way dependent on the other.

[rrbauer]

The question was "what do the numbers mean?", not how do they relate to moving lines.

Two separate and distinct bets--the point spread, and the money-line. When you make a wager on one, it is in no way dependent on the other.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the numbers shown ARE NOT THE MONEY LINE. They are the point-spread line with the vig either at 100-110 or some other pair depending on the bookmaker's situation. Somebody posted the correct interpretation of what -110, etc. means but in this case it is all in conjunction with the point-spreads involved.

The money line is entirely separate, does not involve the point spread and is used to equalize the money on "straight up" bets involving who will win the game...no points involved.

The odds that I posted HAVE NO MONEY LINES in them. It's too early in the betting vis-a-vis when the game will be played to post a money line. Although if you went to LV they would probably have a money line posted for those games. The lines that I posted came from Pinnacle FWIW.

[GaryG]

Pinnacle shows the money line as:

Florida -159
Oklahoma +144

Point spread is Florida by 3 1/2

[ElKabong]

sammy the sage posted>>>and OKIE...can they win a tough CLOSE game???QUOTE]-SNIP



Fact. 0u has played one 60 minute game in 2008. They're 0-1 in this type of game.

Seriously, when was the last time Bob Stoops won a tight game vs an opponent with equal talent when he had a top 10 team? Not this year vs TEXAS. Not vs USC. Not vs West Virginia. Not vs LSU.

[cj]

sammy the sage posted>>>and OKIE...can they win a tough CLOSE game???QUOTE]-SNIP



Fact. 0u has played one 60 minute game in 2008. They're 0-1 in this type of game.

Seriously, when was the last time Bob Stoops won a tight game vs an opponent with equal talent when he had a top 10 team? Not this year vs TEXAS. Not vs USC. Not vs West Virginia. Not vs LSU.

Didn't they beat Missouri to deny them a shot at the BCS title just last year in the Big 12 title game? It is hard to blame him for not having very many tight games.

[rrbauer]

GaryG's post sent me back to Pinnacle. All of the point spreads are up but the Big Enchilada is the only game with a money line.

December 20 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/20 201 Navy 3 -114 OVER 42 -105
202 Wake Forest -3 104 UNDER 42 -105

12/20 203 Fresno State -3 102 OVER 60.5 -105
204 Colorado State 3 -112 UNDER 60.5 -105

12/20 205 Memphis 12 -101 OVER 52 -105
206 South Florida -12 -109 UNDER 52 -105

12/20 207 BYU 3 -105 OVER 62.5 102
208 Arizona U -3 -105 UNDER 62.5 -112

December 21 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/21 209 Troy -4 -116 OVER 54.5 -105
210 So Mississippi 4 106 UNDER 54.5 -105

December 23 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/23 211 TCU -2.5 -106 OVER 46.5 -105
212 Boise State 2.5 -104 UNDER 46.5 -105

December 24 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/24 213 Notre Dame 2 -105 OVER 48.5 -101
214 Hawaii -2 -105 UNDER 48.5 -109

December 26 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/26 215 Florida Atlantic 6.5 102 OVER 62 -112
216 Central Michigan -6.5 -112 UNDER 62 102

December 27 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/27 217 West Virginia 0 -105 OVER 44 -112
218 North Carolina 0 -105 UNDER 44 102

12/27 219 Wisconsin 4.5 -105 OVER 52.5 -105
220 Florida State -4.5 -105 UNDER 52.5 -105

12/27 221 Miami Florida 7 -104 OVER 49.5 -112
222 California -7 -106 UNDER 49.5 102

December 28 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/28 223 No Illinois -1.5 -105 OVER 47 -105
224 Louisiana Tech 1.5 -105 UNDER 47 -105

December 29 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/29 225 NC State 6.5 105 OVER 52 -105
226 Rutgers -6.5 -115 UNDER 52 -105

12/29 227 NorthWestern 13 -105 OVER 66 -112
228 Missouri -13 -105 UNDER 66 102

December 30 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/30 229 Nevada -1 -112 OVER 58.5 102
230 Maryland 1 102 UNDER 58.5 -112

12/30 231 Western Michigan 3 -105 OVER 72.5 -112
232 Rice -3 -105 UNDER 72.5 102

12/30 233 Oregon 3.5 -115 OVER 77 102
234 Oklahoma State -3.5 105 UNDER 77 -112

December 31 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
12/31 235 Air Force 2.5 102 OVER 64 102
236 Houston U -2.5 -112 UNDER 64 -112

12/31 237 Pittsburgh U 3 -111 OVER 53 102
238 Oregon State -3 101 UNDER 53 -112

12/31 239 Boston College -3.5 -108 OVER 41.5 -105
240 Vanderbilt 3.5 -102 UNDER 41.5 -105

12/31 241 Minnesota U 10.5 -105 OVER 57 -112
242 Kansas -10.5 -105 UNDER 57 102

12/31 243 LSU 4 -105 OVER 50 -105
244 Georgia Tech -4 -105 UNDER 50 -105

January 1 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/01 245 Iowa -3 -117 OVER 43 -112
246 South Carolina 3 107 UNDER 43 102

01/01 247 Clemson -3 112 OVER 55 -113
248 Nebraska 3 -122 UNDER 55 103

01/01 249 Michigan State 7.5 -105 OVER 54 -105
250 Georgia -7.5 -105 UNDER 54 -105

01/01 251 Penn State 10 -102 OVER 45 -105
252 USC -10 -108 UNDER 45 -105

01/01 253 Virginia Tech 1 103 OVER 41 -119
254 Cincinnati U -1 -113 UNDER 41 109

January 2 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/02 255 Mississippi 5.5 -112 OVER 70.5 -105
256 Texas Tech -5.5 102 UNDER 70.5 -105

01/02 257 East Carolina -1.5 -105 OVER 41 -119
258 Kentucky 1.5 -105 UNDER 41 109

01/02 259 Utah 10.5 -112 OVER 46 102
260 Alabama -10.5 102 UNDER 46 -112

January 3 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/03 261 Buffalo U 4 -105 OVER 51.5 -112
262 Connecticut -4 -105 UNDER 51.5 102

January 5 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/05 263 Ohio State 9 -101 OVER 53.5 -105
264 Texas -9 -109 UNDER 53.5 -105

January 6 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/06 265 Ball State -2.5 -111 OVER 77 102
266 Tulsa 2.5 101 UNDER 77 -112

January 8 - College Football Betting Line ups
GAME SPREAD MONEYLINE TOTAL POINTS
01/08 267 Florida -3.5 -101-159 OVER 72 -105
268 Oklahoma 3.5 -109 144 UNDER 72 -105

[DanG]

12/20 205 Memphis 12 -101 OVER 52 -105
206 South Florida -12 -109 UNDER 52 -105

For what little its worth…

I couldn’t know less about Memphis, but living very close to USF there is something very wrong with them right now. They miss key assistant coaches something terrible and -12 is a big number for a team that is doubting themselves / and gets a bowl they wanted no part of.

[pktruckdriver]

If you like Florida, you will put up $112 to win $100.

If you like Oklahoma, you will put up $100 to win $102.




CJ's Dad and Pace thank you for you responses


To me how can one really make money playing money lines, seems ridiculous to me, unless betting in 6 figures.


Point spread, or like me straight up is the bet I would make if I chose to bet on football, other than the teaser things they got in Vegas.


Go Gators
Thanks Guys

Patrick

[cj's dad]

Teaser bets are the absolute dumbest bet one can make- the books love 'em- if the books did not, they would not be available.


Money lines to me are the absolute best(for me) bet there is.
Several reasons are:
#1- College football - Div 1A- The point spread only affects 27-28% of all games, either way.
#2- NFL is about 32% either way
#3- the proof regarding money lines is that many books won't deal with them.
#4- money line parleys of 2 or more teams can and do pay lots of $$$ for a reasonably small wager.

[pktruckdriver]

Teaser bets are the absolute dumbest bet one can make- the books love 'em- if the books did not, they would not be available.


Money lines to me are the absolute best(for me) bet there is.
Several reasons are:
#1- College football - Div 1A- The point spread only affects 27-28% of all games, either way.
#2- NFL is about 32% either way
#3- the proof regarding money lines is that many books won't deal with them.
#4- money line parleys of 2 or more teams can and do pay lots of $$$ for a reasonably small wager.


He we go again, my playing teasers is "dumb", a bet 1 can make for 1.00 and win a few bucks if you were right that day..

I would like you to elaborate more on your #4 , as you claim $$$ for small wagers, how small and how large is $$$?


Patrick

[strapper]

Too many bowls to keep track of. I miss the old days when a bowl game really meant something. Rose, Orange, Sugar, and Cotton - that's all we really need!

[BlueShoe]

How many bowls are there,34?That means that over half of the 119 teams in Division 1A(or whatever they call it now) is going to a bowl.6-6 teams do not deserve to play in a post season bowl.7-6 or 7-5 teams do not deserve to play in a post season bowl.Most 8-4 teams do not deserve a bowl bid.9-3 or better,okay.We oldtimers recall when there were just 4 major bowls,all played on New Years Day(Orange,Sugar,Cotton,Rose),and 4 or 5 minor ones played the week before.The mighty dollar and TV revenue rules the roost today.College football almost seems to mirror the rest of society today;just show up and you get rewarded.Of all the bowls,only 5 or 6 of them are of much interest to this fellow.The best of them is USC/Penn State,matching the Pac Ten champ vs. the Big Ten champ,just like the good old days.

[rastajenk]

I wonder if you could have bet, before the season, that of the 68 teams in bowls that both Michigan and Tennessee would not be among them, and how much that would have paid.

[Pace Cap'n]

What amazes me is that people actually show up to watch these wretched bowl games.

[Marshall Bennett]

What amazes me is the seats are nearly empty in some of those games and they keep playing them year after year . :p

[rrbauer]

What amazes me is that people actually show up to watch these wretched bowl games.

Amen. Went to the Tennessee - Penn State game in Tampa a couple years ago and it was the WORST football game that I've ever been to. Two teams with boring offenses in a game that was repeatedly delayed with team timeouts, TV timeouts, injury timeouts and penalties. Best play of the game was an 80-yd fumble recovery & run back for a TD. Oh, and it rained in the 2nd half! Tix were about $125 each and parking was another $25.

[cj's dad]

TeasersHe we go again, my playing teasers is "dumb", a bet 1 can make for 1.00 and win a few bucks if you were right that day..

I would like you to elaborate more on your #4 , as you claim $$$ for small wagers, how small and how large is $$$?


Patrick

The bookies love them - keep 'em coming.

[OTM Al]

What amazes me is the seats are nearly empty in some of those games and they keep playing them year after year . :p

That's due to the reason that I talked about above why there will never be a playoff. There's so much money made in the sponsorship that ticket sales simply become the gravy. Name the bowls that don't have a sponsorship.

[cj]

That's due to the reason that I talked about above why there will never be a playoff. There's so much money made in the sponsorship that ticket sales simply become the gravy. Name the bowls that don't have a sponsorship.

Sponsorships are taking a hit in this economy. I'm not saying they will go away, but that gravy train is slowing down.

[cj]

Teasers

The bookies love them - keep 'em coming.

There was a computer guy in the book "Scared Money" (see the Handicapping Library section) that was cleaning up on teasers.

[cj's dad]

There was a computer guy in the book "Scared Money" (see the Handicapping Library section) that was cleaning up on teasers.

He was definitely in the minority.

Do you remember Fred of "Fred and Margies" bar down the street? Fred booked (for fun) and I (ahem) "helped" him with his phone. He made tons of monopoly money on teasers. Biggest sucker bet ever. 20% juice. Pretty stiff rake to overcome.