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Lefty
10-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Barney Frank told a reporter it's time for more spending and that concerns for the deficet would have to take second Chair. He also said there was lots of millionares that could be taxed later to get some of the money back.

There you have it. Obama says, 'spread the wealth around' and Frank says spend and spend.
that's the Dims platform in a nutshell.

delayjf
10-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Brilliant

delayjf
10-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Hey Lefty do you have a link - I'd like to read that article.

Lefty
10-21-2008, 06:58 PM
No link. Either Rush or Hannity played the clip yesterday. It was a riot.

LottaKash
10-21-2008, 07:02 PM
In other words, you can do nothing to stop us, and now we are going to flaunt it in your face.....

WE ARE THE GREEDY AND GODLESS ONES, AND WE WANT MORE AND MORE AND MORE....... Just tax us later, hahahahahahahahahahaha

here's hoping,

JustRalph
10-21-2008, 08:09 PM
Here you go, The architect of the Fannie Mae Failure spouts off about making the rich pay for his failures............

u1Mazjm_A5k

Lefty
10-21-2008, 08:26 PM
i forgot this part, but was reminded when Mark levin played the clip today.
Frank said something like we have to get back to the Keynesion philosophy or style of govt, something like that.
Of Course, John Maynard Keynes was an outright socialist'

wonatthewire1
10-21-2008, 08:34 PM
i forgot this part, but was reminded when Mark levin played the clip today.
Frank said something like we have to get back to the Keynesion philosophy or style of govt, something like that.
Of Course, John Maynard Keynes was an outright socialist'


The votes will be in in a couple of weeks - and it is looking more and more like we won't have any choice Lefty. We're headed to socialism no matter who wins the WH - the dimrats are going to have a big majority in Congress. If Barry wins, its gonna be awful. If McCain wins, guys (and girls) like Barney Frank are just going to be slapping him silly anyway.

But the American people will have spoken and we'll have to live with it or leave the country. There will be some options.

What we really have to find out is what is making them move so far to the left? Is it something we did? Or said?

Lefty
10-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Maybe so, but call me a cockeyed optimist; I blve if MCain wins we have some chance. With Obama, no friggin chance at all.

LottaKash
10-21-2008, 09:59 PM
Here you go, The architect of the Fannie Mae Failure spouts off about making the rich pay for his failures............

u1Mazjm_A5k

To me this guy is reminescent of an Odds-Line Maker in the old Race-books in Vegas..........:jump:

best.

PaceAdvantage
10-22-2008, 02:31 AM
What we really have to find out is what is making them move so far to the left? Is it something we did? Or said?Why don't you spend some quality time researching this angle and report back to us ASAP.

skate
10-22-2008, 03:46 PM
think about 'it' man.

debt=growth

2006 congress goes dem., and since then we've not had any money put into M-1.

It takes a bigger and bigger amount of debt in order to keep up with an increasing GDP, if NOT, then your economy will decrease.

If your GDP goes up to $14 Trillion from $9 trillion (50%) then your debt must also increase near the increase in GDP.

NOW now now, we have just now started to (after 20months, Since the new Congress) put money into the economy.

Just in time for the aftermath to the election:eek:

I'm not talking about bail money either.

delayjf
10-22-2008, 04:18 PM
debt=growth

2006 congress goes dem., and since then we've not had any money put into M-1.
I can understand how pumping money into the economy can stimulate the economy to a dgree to off set the cost of borrowing money - But how does the debt = growth work when the money we are borrowing is from ourselves? I.E social security??

pardon my ignorance, but what is M-1.

Jeff P
10-22-2008, 04:40 PM
What we really have to find out is what is making them move so far to the left? Is it something we did? Or said?I normally stay out of the off topic area. My own view is that I am extremely disappointed with BOTH presidential candidates. No matter which one "wins" my gut tells me that our country loses.

That said, I can report three things:

1. I live (literally) within a furlong of the beach. On both coasts, almost everyone I talk to who can be described as young (35 or under) wants one thing: CHANGE.

2. The desire for change is really strong and seems to transcend political affiliation. It runs so deep that they would vote for ANYONE provided the name on the ticket promises to bring a greater degree of change than the other name on the ticket.

3. When I talk to those who are older the desire for change doesn't appear to be nearly as strong.

If young people get out and vote I have very little doubt who our next president is going to be and why.

FWIW, my 2.3 cents...

-jp

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delayjf
10-22-2008, 04:45 PM
In keeping with theme on "change", interesting article by Thomas Sowell on "change".

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/20/believers_in_obama

LottaKash
10-22-2008, 04:54 PM
I can understand how pumping money into the economy can stimulate the economy to a degree

.

Delay, I think what would've been more appropo to say, would be, "Printing Money" instead of Pumping Money into the economy......This is why we are on the verge of Un-controllable runaway inflation.....Very soon what is left of our money, will be rendered useless, and this in turn will promote a more Drastic form of Gov't, the likes of which Americans have never seen before, after all this contrived looting of the treasury......I think that is the plan......

best,

ddog
10-22-2008, 05:26 PM
i forgot this part, but was reminded when Mark levin played the clip today.
Frank said something like we have to get back to the Keynesion philosophy or style of govt, something like that.
Of Course, John Maynard Keynes was an outright socialist'



lefty, now I know this is a waste of time, but the "policies" that are being pursued and have been for over a year by this admin and it's tools in response to this fin deal is right out of MR. K's playbook.

So, you are ok with that.

The "money for nothing chicks for free" handout from earlier this year is as wwll.
You weren't too concerned with duh Key then??

ddog
10-22-2008, 05:27 PM
think about 'it' man.

debt=growth

2006 congress goes dem., and since then we've not had any money put into M-1.

It takes a bigger and bigger amount of debt in order to keep up with an increasing GDP, if NOT, then your economy will decrease.

If your GDP goes up to $14 Trillion from $9 trillion (50%) then your debt must also increase near the increase in GDP.

NOW now now, we have just now started to (after 20months, Since the new Congress) put money into the economy.

Just in time for the aftermath to the election:eek:

I'm not talking about bail money either.

they are bringing on a worse recession , maybe depression with this crap.
they are lost in the wilderness.

They seem to be betting that most "consumers" are not rational beings.
Well they got 1 pegged anyway.

DJofSD
10-22-2008, 07:29 PM
For a democrat, there is not a single problem that can not be cured by spending more money -- and it's always OPM.

If BF was in charge of curing STDs, I wonder if his solution would be to have more sex?

ddog
10-22-2008, 08:40 PM
that dog don't hunt, if most everyone on all sides didn't believe in deficit spending and wild out of control credit then we would not be where we are.

All the dims in the country couldn't do it by themsleves.

To not admit this is to create a road block to any type of solution.

DJofSD
10-23-2008, 01:01 AM
that dog don't hunt, if most everyone on all sides didn't believe in deficit spending and wild out of control credit then we would not be where we are.

All the dims in the country couldn't do it by themsleves.

To not admit this is to create a road block to any type of solution.
That pup sure does hunt, all day and every day and twice on Sunday.

You can try to equivocate, mitigate, prevaricate and slice it any way you can but that fact of the matter 'spend, spend, spend' is the battle cry of democrats everywhere.

dav4463
10-23-2008, 01:19 AM
How did this country ever let a guy who hangs out with homosexual prostitutes get in a position of power?

JustRalph
10-23-2008, 01:30 AM
How did this country ever let a guy who hangs out with homosexual prostitutes get in a position of power?

Dav, you got it wrong. He didn't hang out with them, he let them use his house as a Brothel................

Btw, I am for legalizing Prostitution...................


Gay or Straight.............

trying2win
10-23-2008, 02:58 AM
I was watching Anderson Cooper's show on CNN recently. What's it called?
... Anderson Cooper 360, or something like that. Anyway, he had on a segment on the topic about who was to blame for the Wall Steet meltdown. He had something like a TOP TEN or TOP TWENTY list of culprits. I think he was going to name one or two culprits a night for several days. Did anyone watch those shows to see the list we should curse at? Was Barney Frank or Chris Dodd on the list? How many Wall Street banking CEOs were on the list?

I'm retired, and have lost many thousands of dollars of value in my mutual fund retirement accounts, just like countless other people have with their retirement accounts as well. Needless to say, I'm ticked off like many people about this mortgage fiasco. I've seen people running for office this year in the U.S. and running TV ads, stating that if they are elected, they will go after the mortgage meltdown offenders and prosecute them. That's the kind of talk and intended action I want to see.

Oh yeah, and by the way... http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/45.gif I'm still waiting for the U.S. Attorney General or some U.S. Federal Government official to start prosecuting these U.S. Government members and greedy Wall Street bankers with fines and/or jail time in the mean time. I thnk some of these incompetent and/or greedy so-and-so's ideally should be both fined and jailed, and join some of Enron's and World Com's executives in the same jail. What are the chances I'll see some justice done within this year or next? I want some accountability and justice! If I saw some action in fines or jail time for these culprits, then I think that would help the stock market gain some more credibility, and bring back some stock market investor confidence.

T2W

Tom
10-23-2008, 07:54 AM
Btw, I am for legalizing Prostitution...................





San Fran is looking to de-criminalize prostitution this election. Sounds like Nancy is setting up her retirement.