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pktruckdriver
10-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Like it or not , Have you come to terms with the Next President Yet?

President Obama, we all know the name games we could play here, but the facts are what they are, he basically has won , and could well be a landslide.


Have you come to terms with it? Me, no I have not , but then what can I do.


President McCain, oops President Palin, now that really scares me too, its like putting either Goldie Hawn or Jane Fonda in the White House, both of those seem to be better than Palin.


MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHEN ARE WE AS THE COUNTRY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, GOING TO RUN 2 OR MORE REALLY GREAT CANIDATE'S FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HECK WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE REALLY HAD 2 GREAT CANIDATES, HOW FAR BACK MUST WE GO TO FIND THEM, QUITE A WAYS. REALLY KINDA SAD ISN'T IT.


Oh well, I guess congragulations is in order Mr. Obama, on your new job.

Tom
10-18-2008, 10:11 AM
I'd settle for one of the two not being a blooming idiot or a bottom feeding sellout, like 3 of the 4 this time. All but Sara should be deported.
Three disgusting examples of government at its worst and lowest.

Obama, McCain.....cancer, aids?

JustRalph
10-18-2008, 02:08 PM
Goldie Hawn and Jane Fonda would be better than the most popular Governor in the country? The most well versed on Energy and the only one to give back money to her constituents? A Governor with a 60% approval rating?

A women who has been married 20 years.........compared to Jane Fonda and Goldie Hawn???

Get Real.............

barn32
10-18-2008, 02:28 PM
I'd settle for one of the two not being a blooming idiot or a bottom feeding sellout...I agree. Sarah Palin is a blooming idiot.

ArlJim78
10-18-2008, 02:31 PM
Obama will not win the election.

JustRalph
10-18-2008, 02:51 PM
I agree. Sarah Palin is a blooming idiot.

yeah right..........that is why your side has worked overtime to tear her down for the last month............

GaryG
10-18-2008, 03:00 PM
There have been several threads by the blue state yahoos declaring the election is over. Like that makes it fait accompli. If you look at recent elections the results are consistently more conservative than the polls. Soros hasn't got enough money to force this loser on us.

witchdoctor
10-18-2008, 03:30 PM
There have been several threads by the blue state yahoos declaring the election is over. Like that makes it fait accompli. If you look at recent elections the results are consistently more conservative than the polls. Soros hasn't got enough money to force this loser on us.


Unfortunatly, I wouldn't bet against it. People are fed up with Bush and scared of where the economy is going and would vote for Osama Ben Ladin if he was the democratic candidate. :bang:

pktruckdriver
10-18-2008, 05:51 PM
Unfortunatly, I wouldn't bet against it. People are fed up with Bush and scared of where the economy is going and would vote for Osama Ben Ladin if he was the democratic candidate. :bang:


God I hope not, but this was over when Oprah said it was over.....:(


Amazing what this country has become, that a talk show host can convince a country to vote for a, what black man/terrorist/crook/politacian/muslim and any other thing this country has been calling him since this started, but he keeps coming at you, all the way to the White House, so so sad.


Oh well, could have been worse, please tell me how, I just do not seehow it could get worse than what it is now, would Hillary have been this bad, who knows, apparently we thought so, or she would still be around, but she isn't.


Patrick

toetoe
10-18-2008, 06:31 PM
Never, sir.

PaceAdvantage
10-18-2008, 07:00 PM
Is it just me, or are we looking at Dewey beating Truman all over again?

All this posturing that the election is over is very dangerous for Obama and his supporters. But then again, they are the ones that love to swallow all the Kool-Aid fed to them on a daily basis, so it should serve them right.

Forget who is right and who is wrong for the country. On a purely selfish level, I would absolutely love to see McCain win, just to watch what would happen to all the Obama supporters out there and on this board. It would bring me nothing but bliss to see you guys react to a McCain victory.

I predict that the media will start tightening the polls in the few weeks left in this election. You know why? They are going to start worrying that all this talk of an Obama runaway win will encourage the less fanatic of Obama supporters to stay home and not bother to trudge out to the election booth, figuring this thing is in the bag.

barn32
10-18-2008, 07:31 PM
Is it just me, or are we looking at Dewey beating Truman all over again?

All this posturing that the election is over is very dangerous for Obama and his supporters. But then again, they are the ones that love to swallow all the Kool-Aid fed to them on a daily basis, so it should serve them right.

Forget who is right and who is wrong for the country. On a purely selfish level, I would absolutely love to see McCain win, just to watch what would happen to all the Obama supporters out there and on this board. It would bring me nothing but bliss to see you guys react to a McCain victory.

I predict that the media will start tightening the polls in the few weeks left in this election. You know why? They are going to start worrying that all this talk of an Obama runaway win will encourage the less fanatic of Obama supporters to stay home and not bother to trudge out to the election booth, figuring this thing is in the bag.You've been spouting this McCain is still in it, McCain can still win, don't count McCain out, it ain't over till it's over, Dewey defeats Truman blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, for so long now that I no longer think that it's rhetoric. I think that you actually believe it!

Take your blinkers off!

I'm predicting 55%+ in the general election for Obama. Electoral college? Forgetabout it.

After all of the votes are counted, and Obama becomes our next President, and I collect my $4700, all will be well with the world.

[PS Gas just went below $3.00 a gallon. Thank you, President Obama!]

hcap
10-18-2008, 08:18 PM
Is it just me, or are we looking at Dewey beating Truman all over again?It's just you

HUSKER55
10-18-2008, 08:19 PM
oBAMA did not bring the price of gas down, just your imagination, which is lost in a fog.

PaceAdvantage
10-18-2008, 09:02 PM
You've been spouting this McCain is still in it, McCain can still win, don't count McCain out, it ain't over till it's over, Dewey defeats Truman blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, for so long now that I no longer think that it's rhetoric. I think that you actually believe it!I have spouted no such thing. In fact, recently I lamented how it seems that even McCain will be voting for Obama the way he performed in the first two debates.

Perhaps you need a break from off-topic. It's messing with your mind.

PaceAdvantage
10-18-2008, 09:04 PM
It's just youOh, I doubt that. If I were a wealthy man, I would be willing to wager money on the outcome.

When people are this "sure" about such a "sure thing," invariably something goes awry at the last minute.

We are living in a brave new world ladies and gentleman....and you just might witness one of the many perils of this brave new world when your beloved Barack Messiah Obama is sent home back to Illinois by the very people you hold in such contempt.

wonatthewire1
10-18-2008, 09:42 PM
Oh, I doubt that. If I were a wealthy man, I would be willing to wager money on the outcome.

When people are this "sure" about such a "sure thing," invariably something goes awry at the last minute.

We are living in a brave new world ladies and gentleman....and you just might witness one of the many perils of this brave new world when your beloved Barack Messiah Obama is sent home back to Illinois by the very people you hold in such contempt.


Don't say that you're wealthy (even only making $250,000 per) those wacky Barry supporters will come around and hit you over the head in NYC with your own stick and take 60% of your money.

Why take a chance?

JustRalph
10-19-2008, 12:03 AM
John Kerry was ahead in the polls at this time too...........

who the hell knows what is going to happen?

PaceAdvantage
10-19-2008, 03:25 AM
If Colin Powell endorses McCain later today, then it's a whole new ballgame.

I just can't see Powell endorsing Obama, but then again, a lot has happened recently that has me shaking my head in disbelief.

barn32
10-19-2008, 03:30 AM
If Colin Powell endorses McCain later today, then it's a whole new ballgame.

You can't be serious. The same Colin Powell that kept hammering on the UN to invade Iraq???:lol::lol::lol:

You're right about it being a new ballgame. President Obama wins by an even larger percentage.

PaceAdvantage
10-19-2008, 03:46 AM
You can't be serious. The same Colin Powell that kept hammering on the UN to invade Iraq???:lol::lol::lol:

You're right about it being a new ballgame. President Obama wins by an even larger percentage.Oh, now Colin Powell is a bad guy....lol

If Powell endorses Obama, you'll probably be the first on here crowing of such a coup....and how great Powell is....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ArlJim78
10-19-2008, 10:13 AM
Obama's lies about William Ayers continue to be exposed.
He has said he was a guy from the neighborhood, who he served on a board with.

Oh, but he left out that they worked out of the same building for at least three years. Oh and he also left out that another guy from that same building was radical communist Mike Klonsky.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

this guy really has impeccable pedigree for the presidency:
- no academic record.
- president of Harvard Law review but strangely has no written articles or opinions.
- no medical record
- no business experience other than distributing other peoples money via foundations or taxpayer money.
-mentored by communist Frank Marshall Davis
- won't release names of donors even though he is raising obscene amounts like $175 million per month
- pastor for 20 years hates racist America.
- angry wife who they keep under lock and key never proud of the US.
- buddies with Bill Ayers, radical terrorist.
- buddies with felon Tony Rezko, bought home next door to Rezko property in very suspicious transaction.
- wants to add a trillion in spending and spread wealth around- Socialist.

wonatthewire1
10-19-2008, 10:39 AM
Oh, now Colin Powell is a bad guy....lol

If Powell endorses Obama, you'll probably be the first on here crowing of such a coup....and how great Powell is....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wow

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081019/pl_politico/14714

boxcar
10-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Obama's lies about William Ayers continue to be exposed.
He has said he was a guy from the neighborhood, who he served on a board with.

Oh, but he left out that they worked out of the same building for at least three years. Oh and he also left out that another guy from that same building was radical communist Mike Klonsky.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

this guy really has impeccable pedigree for the presidency:
- no academic record.
- president of Harvard Law review but strangely has no written articles or opinions.
- no medical record
- no business experience other than distributing other peoples money via foundations or taxpayer money.
-mentored by communist Frank Marshall Davis
- won't release names of donors even though he is raising obscene amounts like $175 million per month
- pastor for 20 years hates racist America.
- angry wife who they keep under lock and key never proud of the US.
- buddies with Bill Ayers, radical terrorist.
- buddies with felon Tony Rezko, bought home next door to Rezko property in very suspicious transaction.
- wants to add a trillion in spending and spread wealth around- Socialist.

Other than all this, the guy is a-ok! :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

pktruckdriver
10-19-2008, 11:38 AM
Wasn't Powel the guy made to lie to the whole world in front of the UN, he was at one time "W's" puppet.


I give him credit for resigning pretty quick later, but he still did the deed, did he not?

I suppose my mind is shot because I see that BHO what ever his name is winning this election, why do you doubt the power of Oprah, yes kinda , no actually really crazy, but true none-the-less.

My 2 dollars are on Obama, but stranget things have happened before, "W" stole his election , so anything is possible.

Go Dolphins:jump:

ArlJim78
10-19-2008, 12:02 PM
Other than all this, the guy is a-ok! :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

but wait there's more,
don't forget his supporting the ACORN voter fraud group and being the second biggest acceptor of donations from Fannie/Freddie lobbyists in congress.

there is probably more i'm leaving out, but yeah other than those 10-15 things he's perfect.

JustRalph
10-19-2008, 04:08 PM
When it hits that Ayres Wrote Obama's books, it will be interesting.

But a little late I think

http://cashill.com/natl_general/evidence_mounts.htm



you didn't know him, but you started your career in his living room and he wrote your books and you both have praised Alinsky in your previous works............hell, Obama has done everything Ayres has done except plant a bomb.............

boxcar
10-19-2008, 04:39 PM
When it hits that Ayres Wrote Obama's books, it will be interesting.

But a little late I think

http://cashill.com/natl_general/evidence_mounts.htm



you didn't know him, but you started your career in his living room and he wrote your books and you both have praised Alinsky in your previous works............hell, Obama has done everything Ayres has done except plant a bomb.............

Thinking people have known all along that NoBam is merely a front man -- the proverbial puppet on the strings.

Boxcar

Tom
10-19-2008, 04:54 PM
Yes, he is a Manchurian Candidate. How ironic the first black president will have been bought and paid for.

pktruckdriver
10-19-2008, 05:41 PM
Tom

Are they not all bought and paid for before they take office??



If not which ones weren't George Washington, maybe?

Bubba X
10-19-2008, 05:48 PM
Obama's lies about William Ayers continue to be exposed.
He has said he was a guy from the neighborhood, who he served on a board with.

Oh, but he left out that they worked out of the same building for at least three years. Oh and he also left out that another guy from that same building was radical communist Mike Klonsky.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

this guy really has impeccable pedigree for the presidency:
- no academic record.
- president of Harvard Law review but strangely has no written articles or opinions.
- no medical record
- no business experience other than distributing other peoples money via foundations or taxpayer money.
-mentored by communist Frank Marshall Davis
- won't release names of donors even though he is raising obscene amounts like $175 million per month
- pastor for 20 years hates racist America.
- angry wife who they keep under lock and key never proud of the US.
- buddies with Bill Ayers, radical terrorist.
- buddies with felon Tony Rezko, bought home next door to Rezko property in very suspicious transaction.
- wants to add a trillion in spending and spread wealth around- Socialist.Quite a list. Should keep you good company for the next 4-8 bitter years.

ArlJim78
10-19-2008, 06:02 PM
Quite a list. Should keep you good company for the next 4-8 bitter years.
it ain't over yet. your hero only has three point lead and falling.

bitter? i guess in snobama's eyes yes, because I am one of the people he looks down on, bitterly clinging to my guns and religion.

PaceAdvantage
10-19-2008, 10:16 PM
Quite a list. Should keep you good company for the next 4-8 bitter years.I won't be bitter in the least. On the contrary. I look forward to an Obama administration. Any way you slice it, it should provide loads of entertainment.

A lot of folks on the left say America is already dead or dying. No surprise they are looking to elect a guy who looks more than willing and able to bang a few more nails into that proverbial coffin.

The fact that the most liberal, far-left guy in the Senate, with lots of questionable associations (Ayers, Wright, Syrian-born Tony Rezco, the late communist poet Frank Marshall Davis - eight year relationship with Obama which Obama attempted to hide and minimize) is leading this election says much.

barn32
10-19-2008, 11:17 PM
Oh, now Colin Powell is a bad guy....lol

If Powell endorses Obama, you'll probably be the first on here crowing of such a coup....and how great Powell is....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Nope. I lost all respect for Powell after his involvement in the Iraq fiasco. Before that happened Powell could have been president for the asking, but he obviously didn't want it.

However, I do believe it will help Obama even more now that he has endorsed him. How much? Who knows. It's just one more nail in the coffin.

JustRalph
10-20-2008, 12:14 AM
I won't be bitter in the least. On the contrary. I look forward to an Obama administration. Any way you slice it, it should provide loads of entertainment.

It will be fun to watch. This guy is Santa Claus and he is promising gifts for everybody. Nothing will change except the money aspects. Which will hurt his "followers" in the long run.

Companies are already waiting to see if he gets elected and planning ahead. I listened to a radio show where an individual was explaining how to avoid the Obama Tax increases. It basically had to do with small businesses restructuring and forming smaller, less "net profit" companies to avoid the higher taxes. He also explained how to offset higher corporate taxes by mining more "non traditional sources of income" when he explained it, it basically meant making your employees pay more for things like tools, required uniforms etc.

I have also spoken with people in Charlotte who are planning immediate wage freezes as soon as he takes office. All in response to his promise to raise taxes on business. Obama is going to cut the pay of his supporters. I spoke with two individuals who run businesses employing a large group of minorities. They both spoke about how Obama will hurt his followers in the long run. No raises, means less money in paychecks. He can spread the wealth all he wants. But if Obama is giving it to you in a tax break, but your employer is cutting or freezing your pay by countering the taxes being raised on them, how does that do you any good? In fact, it won't do you any good. Things will get worse, on a week by week basis.

There are lots of business types looking forward, and responding to what may occur. They are planning for the future, in the business community there is actually some real hostility towards what may occur. Granted I only speak to a small portion of business leaders in Charlotte and some in Ohio, but they all have plans that they are developing to circumvent an Obama Presidency and a Dem Congress. I spoke with a Restaurant Owner who tells me that if Obama raises taxes he is going to post a picture of Obama in his office and when employees want a raise he is going to point at the picture and explain to them why he can't afford it. :lol:

dav4463
10-20-2008, 12:56 AM
I agree. Sarah Palin is a blooming idiot.

Yeah, she has accomplished nothing at such a young age. Most of us are sitting around drinking beer, watching football and scratching our butts while she has been a mayor, the most popular governor in the country and running for vice-president of the nation.

blooming idiot? I don't think so.

ElKabong
10-20-2008, 01:16 AM
I work for a European owned corp, if we have to pay higher taxes via the 0bama plan (obviously we pay US corp taxes) one of 3 things will happen.

1- wages are immediately frozen.
2- layoffs, probably 5-7% immediately
3- move the entire 370 employee operation to Europe (headquarters).

What we hear is, layoffs would be the first action. And we're owned by a corp headquarterd in a country that is 0bama friendly. It's like having someone with a hand in your wallet, another hand holding a gun.

barn32
10-20-2008, 06:28 AM
Yeah, she has accomplished nothing at such a young age. Most of us are sitting around drinking beer, watching football and scratching our butts while she has been a mayor, the most popular governor in the country and running for vice-president of the nation.

blooming idiot? I don't think so.Of course she's not an idiot. But neither is Obama. But if you listen to the hypocrites on this board Obama isn't smart enough to tie his own shoes and Palin is a genius.

You can't have it both ways. They're both intelligent people.

Tom
10-20-2008, 10:17 AM
Just one of them is corrupt as all get out, hates America, forgives terrorism, and just voted to sell out the middle class for political gain.

PaceAdvantage
10-20-2008, 11:15 AM
Of course she's not an idiot. But neither is Obama. But if you listen to the hypocrites on this board Obama isn't smart enough to tie his own shoes and Palin is a genius.Absolutely 100% incorrect. That has not been the mantra of "hyprocrites" on this board.

You are being grossly unfair in your assessment. I don't think anyone (with the possible exception of Tom) has called Obama's intelligence into question. And I don't think anyone on this board has called Palin a genius.

Why must you resort to these intellectually dishonest tactics?

Tom
10-20-2008, 11:21 AM
For the record, yes I do.
Anyone believes the crap he is promising is a blooming idiot. :lol:

ArlJim78
10-20-2008, 12:01 PM
nobody has criticized Obama on here because of skin color or because he isn't bright. for me its his ruthless ambition and inexperience, his adherence to ideas that can only be described as Marxist/Socialist, for lying when he said he would take public financing/ for promising things that have no chance of coming to pass like government payment for college tuition, healthcare, tax breaks for 95%, etc, for having poor judgement having aligned himself his entire life with people that are racist and blame America for everything, for running a thuggish campaign that aims to shut down, litigate, or play the race card against anyone who dares speak out against him. if you are white and speak out against Obama, guess what? you're now a racist!

this is off the top of my head. there are many more.

oh one more - for basically being a sockpuppet for George Soros

Bubba X
10-20-2008, 12:10 PM
Absolutely 100% incorrect. That has not been the mantra of "hyprocrites" on this board.

You are being grossly unfair in your assessment. I don't think anyone (with the possible exception of Tom) has called Obama's intelligence into question. And I don't think anyone on this board has called Palin a genius.

Why must you resort to these intellectually dishonest tactics?
Well, then, allow me to be the first.

She has been able to reduce traditiional conservative family values down to one issue. Abortion.

It is, seemingly, now ok to have a DUI-convicted husband, a pregnant teenage daughter and a secessionist group spouse.

Palin has managed to take alcohol abuse, unprotected premarital sex and patriotism off the table as things that matter to core conservatives.

She's a genius.

boxcar
10-20-2008, 12:17 PM
Absolutely 100% incorrect. That has not been the mantra of "hyprocrites" on this board.

You are being grossly unfair in your assessment. I don't think anyone (with the possible exception of Tom) has called Obama's intelligence into question. And I don't think anyone on this board has called Palin a genius.

Why must you resort to these intellectually dishonest tactics?

In all fairness and honesty, PA, I have insinuated that NoBam is hardly the sharpest tool in the shed. I have called him a huge, runaway gaffe machine. He lacks spontaneity. Can't speak a lick without a prepared speech or teleprompter in front of him. He's noted for his stumbling and stuttering whenever faced with any question that requires any degree of a thoughtful answer.l. His apparent lack of intellectual prowess and general lack of qualifications for the office of the presidency did qualify him (in my book) to be labeled by me as nothing more an Affirmative Action Poster Boy for the oval office.

So, I guess I stand "guilty as charged" -- without any apologies!

Boxcar

Tom
10-20-2008, 12:49 PM
Well, then, allow me to be the first.

She has been able to reduce traditiional conservative family values down to one issue. Abortion.

It is, seemingly, now ok to have a DUI-convicted husband, a pregnant teenage daughter and a secessionist group spouse.

Palin has managed to take alcohol abuse, unprotected premarital sex and patriotism off the table as things that matter to core conservatives.

She's a genius.

Man, what color is the sky in your little world?
We have had some winners here before, but you are setting a new low for grasping reality. Condemn a women because she loves her family and stand by them,and because they decide not to suck the arms and legs and head of a living being for convenience sake, like libs do? Last looked, abortion was legal, not mandatory.

Hank
10-20-2008, 01:01 PM
In all fairness and honesty, PA, I have insinuated that NoBam is hardly the sharpest tool in the shed. I have called him a huge, runaway gaffe machine. He lacks spontaneity. Can't speak a lick without a prepared speech or teleprompter in front of him. He's noted for his stumbling and stuttering whenever faced with any question that requires any degree of a thoughtful answer.l. His apparent lack of intellectual prowess and general lack of qualifications for the office of the presidency did qualify him (in my book) to be labeled by me as nothing more an Affirmative Action Poster Boy for the oval office.

So, I guess I stand "guilty as charged" -- without any apologies!

Boxcar

You really should have given a second thought to clicking submit reply to 'that one":lol: Maybe you can get a mulligan:lol: if you ask real nice PA might remove to for you.

JustRalph
10-20-2008, 08:40 PM
Well, then, allow me to be the first.

She has been able to reduce traditiional conservative family values down to one issue. Abortion.

It is, seemingly, now ok to have a DUI-convicted husband, a pregnant teenage daughter and a secessionist group spouse.

Palin has managed to take alcohol abuse, unprotected premarital sex and patriotism off the table as things that matter to core conservatives.

She's a genius.

This is where you have a profound mis-understanding of what you speak.

Having a DUI conviction does not indicate alcohol abuse.
* If you are going to go after somebody for this, you better put your flame suit on. Because the Kennedy's are on your side of the aisle.

Having a Pregnant Teenage Daughter does not mean that you think pre-marital sex is "off the table" as an issue. It means you have a daughter who screwed up, quite literally.

If you ask many conservatives whether they would like to leave the current form of government behind and revamp many aspects of our government, you would find many that say yes. Most Conservatives lean libertarian and believe that the Government we have now has grown to such behemoth give away machine that we would leave and start over with a revamped more libertarian version in a minute. I know I would.

That is why the Palin's appeal to many conservatives. I am very much against just about everything Barack Obama stands for, but I find only a few things I would hold against Palin. Get it?