SHORT Fields

[BUD]

Is there a stat that gives that ROI for Jockeys in Fields shorter than 5-6?

Example today at Belmont Race #8...I wanted NO part of the #6 Lucky Revival....My memory red flagged me that Kent D does not fare well in short fields....Now I could be dead wrong about that....In my mind this is important information to have such as what jockeys handle turf races with 12 plus involved....

But am I off base on this? Slam me if needed...I am trying to learn.....I get spoon fed well, but I really want to know what the Hell I'm talking about referring to handicapping.

Thanks in advance BUD.

[Robert Fischer]

good question

[cnollfan]

It is also my impression that Kent D has more than his share of tough trips in short fields.

[HUSKER55]

Short fields , less than 6 I generally stay out of unless the horses are evenly matched. Good odds are available because everybody is betting every horse.

The only thing I have noticed that if the jockey is having a good day go with him but if you keep getting burned then I pass the race if that jockey is on my horse and KD is one of them.

husker55

:)

[BUD]

Thanks Guys..I appreciate the input.....

[bettheoverlay]

Here's Desormeaux by field size since May 1

Data Summary Win Place Show
Mutuel Totals 463.90 623.30 661.60
Bet -730.00 -730.00 -730.00
Gain -266.10 -106.70 -68.40

Wins 58 125 177
Plays 365 365 365
PCT .1589 .3425 .4849

ROI 0.6355 0.8538 0.9063
Avg Mut 8.00 4.99 3.74


By: Field Size

Field Size Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact
1 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
2 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
3 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
4 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
5 -5.90 40.00 0.8525 6 20 .3000 1.8879
6 -35.20 88.00 0.6000 8 44 .1818 1.1442
7 -34.70 94.00 0.6309 7 47 .1489 0.9373
8 -65.20 152.00 0.5711 8 76 .1053 0.6624
9 -23.80 130.00 0.8169 15 65 .2308 1.4523
10 -31.70 120.00 0.7358 9 60 .1500 0.9440
11 -34.00 46.00 0.2609 2 23 .0870 0.5472
12 -34.40 52.00 0.3385 2 26 .0769 0.4841
13 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
14 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
15 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
16 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
17 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
18 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
19 4.80 2.00 3.4000 1 1 1.0000 6.2931


By: 21 TheOdds

>=Min < Max Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000
0.00 0.50 -1.40 6.00 0.7667 2 3 .6667
0.50 1.00 8.70 30.00 1.2900 11 15 .7333
1.00 1.50 -13.70 36.00 0.6194 5 18 .2778
1.50 2.00 -2.40 46.00 0.9478 8 23 .3478
2.00 2.50 -1.50 48.00 0.9688 7 24 .2917
2.50 3.00 -6.70 44.00 0.8477 5 22 .2273
3.00 3.50 22.20 46.00 1.4826 8 23 .3478
3.50 4.00 -22.70 32.00 0.2906 1 16 .0625
4.00 4.50 -40.00 40.00 0.0000 0 20 .0000
4.50 5.00 -11.80 34.00 0.6529 2 17 .1176
5.00 5.50 -30.00 30.00 0.0000 0 15 .0000
5.50 6.00 -20.00 20.00 0.0000 0 10 .0000
6.00 6.50 -9.80 38.00 0.7421 2 19 .1053
6.50 7.00 4.40 26.00 1.1692 2 13 .1538
7.00 7.50 -26.00 26.00 0.0000 0 13 .0000
7.50 8.00 -16.00 16.00 0.0000 0 8 .0000
8.00 8.50 -10.00 10.00 0.0000 0 5 .0000
8.50 9.00 -12.00 12.00 0.0000 0 6 .0000
9.00 9999.00 -77.40 190.00 0.5926 5 95 .0526

[BUD]

Here's Desormeaux by field size since May 1

Data Summary Win Place Show
Mutuel Totals 463.90 623.30 661.60
Bet -730.00 -730.00 -730.00
Gain -266.10 -106.70 -68.40

Wins 58 125 177
Plays 365 365 365
PCT .1589 .3425 .4849

ROI 0.6355 0.8538 0.9063
Avg Mut 8.00 4.99 3.74


By: Field Size

Field Size Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact
1 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
2 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
3 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
4 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
5 -5.90 40.00 0.8525 6 20 .3000 1.8879
6 -35.20 88.00 0.6000 8 44 .1818 1.1442
7 -34.70 94.00 0.6309 7 47 .1489 0.9373
8 -65.20 152.00 0.5711 8 76 .1053 0.6624
9 -23.80 130.00 0.8169 15 65 .2308 1.4523
10 -31.70 120.00 0.7358 9 60 .1500 0.9440
11 -34.00 46.00 0.2609 2 23 .0870 0.5472
12 -34.40 52.00 0.3385 2 26 .0769 0.4841
13 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
14 -2.00 2.00 0.0000 0 1 .0000 0.0000
15 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
16 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
17 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
18 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
19 4.80 2.00 3.4000 1 1 1.0000 6.2931


By: 21 TheOdds

>=Min < Max Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000
0.00 0.50 -1.40 6.00 0.7667 2 3 .6667
0.50 1.00 8.70 30.00 1.2900 11 15 .7333
1.00 1.50 -13.70 36.00 0.6194 5 18 .2778
1.50 2.00 -2.40 46.00 0.9478 8 23 .3478
2.00 2.50 -1.50 48.00 0.9688 7 24 .2917
2.50 3.00 -6.70 44.00 0.8477 5 22 .2273
3.00 3.50 22.20 46.00 1.4826 8 23 .3478
3.50 4.00 -22.70 32.00 0.2906 1 16 .0625
4.00 4.50 -40.00 40.00 0.0000 0 20 .0000
4.50 5.00 -11.80 34.00 0.6529 2 17 .1176
5.00 5.50 -30.00 30.00 0.0000 0 15 .0000
5.50 6.00 -20.00 20.00 0.0000 0 10 .0000
6.00 6.50 -9.80 38.00 0.7421 2 19 .1053
6.50 7.00 4.40 26.00 1.1692 2 13 .1538
7.00 7.50 -26.00 26.00 0.0000 0 13 .0000
7.50 8.00 -16.00 16.00 0.0000 0 8 .0000
8.00 8.50 -10.00 10.00 0.0000 0 5 .0000
8.50 9.00 -12.00 12.00 0.0000 0 6 .0000
9.00 9999.00 -77.40 190.00 0.5926 5 95 .0526

Wow!! Thank you!

[Irish Boy]

It took me a second to figure out why he's doing so well with fields of 19 or more.

[cnollfan]

Thanks. Great stats.